What pressure do you run in your tyres ?
Submitted: Friday, Apr 06, 2012 at 17:40
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P and JM
Hi All,
Looking for some answers, thoughts and opinions on the correct tyre pressure for 4x4 tyres.
I've been told by several tyre businesses to run 30 psi / 210 kpa in my 265/70 R16's Bridgestone A/T's on the Nissan Patrol Wagon, and the same pressure in the 265/70 R15's on the Mazda Bravo B2500 Traytop.
The neighbour has a Holden Frontier 4x4 wagon with Micky Thompson's (not sure of size) fitted and was told 36-38 psi / 250 - 265 kpa. Remembering that as tyres get hotter on the road he could
well be up around 41 psi with the 10% increase due to the heat in the tyre.
Four tyre businesses in the city told him to run that pressure to prevent wearing the out side edge of the tyres.
To me If running 30 psi the tyre is flatter on the ground, therefore wearing the full tread width evenly. Running with the higher pressure wears the centre of the tread out first. We live in the country so 80-90% is highway driving.
I was once told that tyre companies will tell you to run higher pressure so they can sell you more tyres, this could be a true point. Any tyre experts out there to help please.
Cheers P&J
Reply By: Member - Tony V (NSW) - Friday, Apr 06, 2012 at 18:56
Friday, Apr 06, 2012 at 18:56
P and JM
Stick to what the tyre placard states, some will say that car makers put the tyre pressures low so they can sell tyres,
well car make cars and have no vested interest in selling tyres.
Over inflate and you do not have the road grip or braking footprint you need, under inflate and your car won't handle correctly.
There is a mass of
information about the 4 psi rule and a mountain of
information on tyre pressures if you do a
forum search.
Me I run 210 kpa on my 100 series and drop pressures for beach and for dirt roads..
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Friday, Apr 06, 2012 at 19:35
Friday, Apr 06, 2012 at 19:35
Another consideration is that the Tyre Placard rating is for OEM tyres and many upgrade to various forms of off road and LT construction tyres that would have different ideal pressure requirements
Also once you have driven with a TPMS system and see how your tyre pressures fluctuate during the day I think the 4PSI rule is a bit simplistic but a good guide just the same.
The answer to such a simple question is complicated by many factors including the driver
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Follow Up By: P and JM - Saturday, Apr 07, 2012 at 16:54
Saturday, Apr 07, 2012 at 16:54
Tony V,
Not hungry at moment tony, thanks for pics they say it all. Will show neighbour what the over inflated do. Cheers P&J
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Follow Up By: Patrol22 - Sunday, Apr 08, 2012 at 12:43
Sunday, Apr 08, 2012 at 12:43
AlbyNSW I believe has hit the nail on the head.....if you are running OEM tyres which are almost always HT pattern tyres then the placard settings are about right for wear and comfort. When you fit an AT or MT pattern tyre then things change somewhat. You will soon get an adverse wear indication if centre or edges as per the pics if running the wrong pressure for the vehicle/tyre combination for too long.
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Reply By: gbc - Saturday, Apr 07, 2012 at 06:46
Saturday, Apr 07, 2012 at 06:46
Try googling up the differences between metric P and LT rated tyres. Your haven't nominated what each of the tyres in your story are, so already you could have a 10 psi difference.
Short answer - there is NO easy answer to your question. Optimum tyre pressure changes with load and road type.
As a general rule, an LT rated tyre will need 8-10 psi MORE than a passenger rated tyre of the same size, to carry the same load. Hence the ridiculously high sounding pressures being bandied around on 4wd forums. 30-34 is heaps for a P metric tyre carrying a lightly loaded patrol. I'd be adding at least another 8 PSI if your tyres are prefixed LT.
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Reply By: GimmeeIsolation - Saturday, Apr 07, 2012 at 16:36
Saturday, Apr 07, 2012 at 16:36
The ONLY way to get it right is as a few others have said, the 4psi rule.
As everybody carries different weight you cannot just listen to Joe
Blogs who says "this much".
Also just keep an eye on your tyres for even wear across the tread as time goes by and the 4psi rule will treat you and the tyres kindly.
My car is independent
suspension all round and supposedly tyres wear uneven but I rotate and stick to the 4psi rule and everything wears even across the tread always. I live remote and my country driving is above 95% easy, always fully loaded in a very heavy car.
This question keeps coming up just about every week.
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Follow Up By: Member -Dodger - Saturday, Apr 07, 2012 at 17:03
Saturday, Apr 07, 2012 at 17:03
For 4wd tyres it is 6psi rule.
I run my patrol when not loaded at 30psi and raise to 35 when loaded then to 40psi on rear when towing the van and loaded.
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Follow Up By: GimmeeIsolation - Saturday, Apr 07, 2012 at 17:19
Saturday, Apr 07, 2012 at 17:19
You seem to know something the bloke who is the Western Australia state importer for Mickey Thompson/Coopers does not know.
Thats my last input because it really is a can of worms, you stick to six and Ill stick to four. Its worked for me for the last thirty years living up north here.
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Follow Up By: gbc - Saturday, Apr 07, 2012 at 18:55
Saturday, Apr 07, 2012 at 18:55
6 psi is for LT rated tyres - so much confusion.
Even then you'll find tyres on the sunny side are higher etc - it is a very rough rule of thumb at best, not the science some make it.
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Follow Up By: Member - nick b - Saturday, Apr 07, 2012 at 21:14
Saturday, Apr 07, 2012 at 21:14
Question: are you talking cold or running pressure I.e hot !!!!
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