Sat phone Subsidy

Has anybody applied for & obtained a subsidy on the basis of remote area recreational travel?
If so, what sort of information did you have to provide & how long did it take for approval?

We intend to spend a lot of time traveling in the Outback & other areas with no mobile service over the next few years, it is hard to say exactly when & where you will be.

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Reply By: Member - Duncan W (WA) - Wednesday, Apr 25, 2012 at 14:43

Wednesday, Apr 25, 2012 at 14:43
Yes received mine before I bought the phone. Very simple form and straight forward questions. Once completed and returned to Canberra the advice that I was successful arrived within a week or so.

To qualify you need to be out of normal phone coverage for 100 days in a 2 year period. In WA that's pretty easy to achieve.
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Follow Up By: Member - Redbakk (WA) - Wednesday, Apr 25, 2012 at 20:20

Wednesday, Apr 25, 2012 at 20:20
I'm with Dunc here....got a lot of help from my dealer.....told the GOV that I free camp in the WA outback for extended periods.

Named some of the out of the way places ie Rudall River, GCR, etc etc.

Got my sub real easy off the GOV and got our phone as well.
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Reply By: Motherhen - Wednesday, Apr 25, 2012 at 16:25

Wednesday, Apr 25, 2012 at 16:25
Hi Shaker - this is the criteria.

. Eligible consumers include individuals, small businesses, community groups, not-for-profit organisations, Indigenous corporations, emergency service organisations, health organisations and educational institutions.
· Eligible applicants must spend 180 days over a two year period outside of terrestrial mobile phone coverage.
· The application must be approved before the phone is purchased. Note: The subsidy is paid to dealers, who deduct it from the retail price of the phone to consumers.

Read more and apply here: http://www.dbcde.gov.au/mobile_services/the_satellite_phone_subsidy_scheme

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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, Apr 25, 2012 at 17:00

Wednesday, Apr 25, 2012 at 17:00
Thank you, I have read that, but I was looking for real world experience from people that have obtained the subsidy for recreational travel purposes.
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Wednesday, Apr 25, 2012 at 17:05

Wednesday, Apr 25, 2012 at 17:05
The days when it specified 'must work' out of mobile phone coverage area for specified period of time are long gone - no difference between recreation and work now. Go for it Shaker.

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Follow Up By: Member - Dunworkin (WA) - Wednesday, Apr 25, 2012 at 23:44

Wednesday, Apr 25, 2012 at 23:44
We got ours no problems, the dealer organised it for us, only took a week as I recall.

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Reply By: didjabringabeer - Wednesday, Apr 25, 2012 at 17:53

Wednesday, Apr 25, 2012 at 17:53
Yes, got about ours 2 months ago.As said questions OK, no tricky one's. Only took 2/3 weeks to come through. we go prospecting so met criteria OK. Brian
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Reply By: vk1dx - Wednesday, Apr 25, 2012 at 20:41

Wednesday, Apr 25, 2012 at 20:41
We got ours but what helped was that we are with Vodafone who have absolutely lousy coverage outside magor cities and highways. The rules about coverage are interpreted as meaning "outside YOUR ISP's coverage". Thus we were even ablte to claim 4 days loss of coverage on a drive to Adelaide from the ACT through Broken Hill.Broken Hill had coverage but none on the areas between. Thus three trips added up to 12 days. Extend that to "planned" trips and it was sinch. Even the weekend drives in the Snowy and Vic Hills were accepted.

But if you are with Telstra G3 etc then these days will not be acceptable for you as there is heaps of country coverage.

Remember this: I was told when I spoke to them that they do not expect us to BREAK a contract and change mobile providers. So they will accept YOUR actual coverage. Note this is not always the coverage as shown on the "lousy" prividors site claimed coverage map.

I do not believe that they want PROOF. Just a well presented plan of expected drives and/or tours.

What can help is stating that the phone is for emergency contact wit my doctor in case I have a relapse. Don't explain the relapse. I have an incurrable cancer but I did not tell them that. Note that I DID NOT LIE.

Best of luck

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Reply By: The Bantam - Wednesday, Apr 25, 2012 at 22:05

Wednesday, Apr 25, 2012 at 22:05
So how much is this subsidy?
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Reply By: mikehzz - Thursday, Apr 26, 2012 at 07:09

Thursday, Apr 26, 2012 at 07:09
I'm sure there are many legitimate cases and I'm not questioning anyone on this site, but this seems to have rort written all over it. Dealers wouldn't stretch the truth to sell phones.....would they?
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Thursday, Apr 26, 2012 at 08:15

Thursday, Apr 26, 2012 at 08:15
So does a hell of a lot of social security payments. I sometimes wonder why I subsidise tertiary study and child minding.

Mikehzz: Where is the difference here. You could also say that child minding subsidy is a rort as well when you look at it that way. We need to understand the whole story.

You are opening up a can of worms. I understand your thoughts exactly and have though that myself especially when you drive through a new suburb and check out the ages of the families and how many new cars are parked there. And in my youngest sons also. New car, new house and two kids in preschool. And he works 12+ hours a day seven days a week as a baker in his own shop. We saved for 20 years to buy our first house on one Army income. And it did not have an ensuite or even a garage. That was in 1988 and not that long ago.

As for the subsidy; In our case I would not get doctors approval to drive just to Cameron's Corner because I do not have mobile phone access there. That's what he said. EPIRBs SPOTs and HF not acceptable. Simple.

To answer the post in a nutshell we got about 45% of the cost back and ended up paying just over $850 all up. And we haven't even used it. Thank God.

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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Thursday, Apr 26, 2012 at 09:21

Thursday, Apr 26, 2012 at 09:21
I wasn't having a go at you Phil. It just struck me that it was the dealers flogging the phones that make the application for the subsidy. Like giving a fox the keys to the hen house? :-) Having the actual applicant make the submission would cut down the rorting as they are not pro's so to speak. Just my opinion. I bought one of the phones at the show and didn't bother with the subsidy because I don't qualify, and I can't even get mobile reception where I live in the Blue Mountains.
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Thursday, Apr 26, 2012 at 09:56

Thursday, Apr 26, 2012 at 09:56
I figured it was your opinion and that's fine. No worries there mate. I absolutely detest the bludger who "slips" on the stairs to get compo. And then you see him pushing a wheelbarrow. They the ones?

I just added a bit more background about our own submission. We actually filled the forms out at home. I phoned the staff who do decide yes or no. They were very helpful and only too pleased to take the time to help us fill the forms out. Like using a phrase such as "an indeterminate period" as opposed to "a long time" to explain the how long you expect to use the phone in the bush. That is an example only and not part of one of the answers on the forms. Typical public service officialism and verbosity.

Incidentally I do not have any connection with ANY comms mob.

Time for a cuppa.

Phil


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Reply By: Shelto S1 - Thursday, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:08

Thursday, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:08
G'Day Shaker,
Applied and received my subsidy and phone about 12 months ago. Just stated where I would be travelling, Cape, Tanami, GRR etc and took about 2 weeks. Mine is an Inmarsat and cost just on $400 after subsidy (about half price). Have had no trouble with operation, works anywhere. I took out a plan for $100 which lasts for 2 years and can add to at any time. Calls are fairly expensive though, mainly use text messages. Also with Inmarsat you cannot call 000 or 1300 No. etc. it must be to a specific number. Hope this has helped.
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