to suspension or not
Submitted: Monday, Jan 05, 2004 at 23:03
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Terryfied
Have a 2002 Jackaroo tdi auto with standard
suspension.I intend to do the Great Victorian Desert mid year and will soon be fitting a long range fuel tank and
snorkel,will it be necessary or is it advisable to upgrade the whole
suspension or just replace the shockies.Most of my 4wdriving is in the medium range of difficulty,normally carry more weight with wife ,kids and equipment etc.
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Reply By: Tim - Monday, Jan 05, 2004 at 23:14
Monday, Jan 05, 2004 at 23:14
Terryfied
My 99TD had standard
suspension on nit until recently, I found that with a full long range tank (140L), 3 ppl and a heap of gear, the vehicle was sitting about 1 1/2" to 2" off the bump stops and it was not uncommon to hit the bump stops on some of the roads that around the country.
My vehicle was not a widetrak constant 4WD which yours may be- I believe they have a revised
suspension setup to
mine to make it more stable.
On bends ppl who normally drive commodores and the likes hold on fearing the truck will tip as it has a lot of body roll now with the upgraded
suspension.
Tim
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Follow Up By: Terryfied - Monday, Jan 05, 2004 at 23:36
Monday, Jan 05, 2004 at 23:36
Tim thanks for the quick reply.When I bought the Jack I also bought the wife a Holden Astra which corners and handles like a sports car, so when the wife drives the Jack she has troubles on the roundabouts because of body roll. Fortunatley the Jack does not have the same acceleration so no damage is done. I am or was under the impression that the upgraded
suspension would be firmer with less body roll.Is it because of the extra height?
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Jan 06, 2004 at 23:59
Tuesday, Jan 06, 2004 at 23:59
Terry, you can get new
suspension that is harder or softer, or progressive. You order it to what ever you like.
So you can get firmer with a lift, or softer with a lift. Depends on what you want. If you do medium offroading, then you would want softer to allow for better articulation. If your the sporty type on road, then you want firmer.
Work out what you do more of, and aim for your
suspension to work with that. If you do 1 trip a year, no point in changing everything to suit 1 week out of 52...
You can also use Poly-airs in your springs that firm it up.
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Reply By: Rick Blaine - Tuesday, Jan 06, 2004 at 12:28
Tuesday, Jan 06, 2004 at 12:28
Hi Terryfied. Mate have you had any probs with your Jack?
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Follow Up By: Terryfied - Tuesday, Jan 06, 2004 at 21:11
Tuesday, Jan 06, 2004 at 21:11
Rick as yet no problems nor do I expect any. At present has 35,000 kms on the clock approximately 7,000 of those off road in 4wd mode.At the time when I went looking for a new 4wd the Jack had a good reputation when questioning ARB ,TJM and Robson Bros for problems they had encountered.Of course not as popular as the Toyotas and Nissans but basically a
well built unit.
I read on this website and other related ones of some problems that can occur , however there has not been a car built that is perfect.
Touch wood I will not have any major problems.
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Reply By: pathfinder - Tuesday, Jan 06, 2004 at 13:20
Tuesday, Jan 06, 2004 at 13:20
take it to ARB...most outlets are relatively honest and will only replace what needs to be replaced... then again, poor springs will make your shocks work harder so probably best to replace the lot...
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Reply By: Billy - Tuesday, Jan 06, 2004 at 14:03
Tuesday, Jan 06, 2004 at 14:03
Tfied,
I had a '98 Jack for 120K, good jigger. When the original shocks softened up at about 40K I put in a set new shocks, a set of Polyairs and racheted up the torsion bars about and inch. It made a hell of difference at the back, never bottomed out again. I reckon those Polyairs are the best thing since bread came sliced, particularly if your vehicle is multi use. I put a set in my Patrol as soon as I got it.
I went with Monroe Gas Magnums for the shocks which were good on the road but prone to fade on corrogations, probably got what I paid for though..
IMHO just put in Polyairs, rachet up the front a bit and spend the money on a decent set of shocks. I'd look at Bilstein if I had my time again.All aboard!
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Follow Up By: pathfinder - Tuesday, Jan 06, 2004 at 14:52
Tuesday, Jan 06, 2004 at 14:52
Bilsteins break at the eye welds on rough roads...go Koni or OME...
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Reply By: marcus - Tuesday, Jan 06, 2004 at 20:02
Tuesday, Jan 06, 2004 at 20:02
Hi Terry,
Old Man Emu are a very popular replacement and have earned their good reputation.Since fitting the ride is firm but comfortable,body roll minimal,much improved when loaded up or towing and the two inch lift is very good when off road.Couldn't be happier.
mark
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Jan 07, 2004 at 00:11
Wednesday, Jan 07, 2004 at 00:11
Holden has stopped the Jackaroo in Aussie now havent they?
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Follow Up By: Savvas - Wednesday, Jan 07, 2004 at 11:43
Wednesday, Jan 07, 2004 at 11:43
I think it's gone here. They are still in production in the Phillipines and Peter Hanenberger stated in an auto industry publication that it will be around into 2004.
However it's not clear whether the vehicles you can buy now is existing stock or still being shipped in from overseas.
You can no longer get a new Monterey though and the Frontera has stopped.
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