Dmax Supension

Hi Has anybody tried the change rear supension on a dual cab Dmax ?
I am not sure if i should the extended shackles or air bags?
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Reply By: Ross M - Tuesday, May 01, 2012 at 21:53

Tuesday, May 01, 2012 at 21:53
G'day Pookies Pal
I have a Dmax and the std suspension will carry a load but not with any height or travel left.
Extended shackles are illegal in all states and voids insurance too plus it causes undue stresses on many suspension parts.

Air bags are only ok when carrying relatively lightl loads because they cause the load force to be taken in a spot not designed for heavy loading and in the event of extreme or sudden bump forces the chassis can bend or crack.

Better springs designed with a higher load carrying is the best to use. Around $500 to $600 for these.

I have used a set of dualcab chassis springs which have 6mm thick leaves instead of 5mm thick as the std dcab chassis/tub has.
I have reset these higher than std and have a lift of about 80mm.

Better shock absorbers wil also be required as the std ones are just shock and no more.

Ross M
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Follow Up By: putrol - Wednesday, May 02, 2012 at 17:38

Wednesday, May 02, 2012 at 17:38
your 80mm lift is also illegal in all states unless it is engineered & if it is can you please give me his ph number thanks
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Follow Up By: Ross M - Thursday, May 03, 2012 at 18:30

Thursday, May 03, 2012 at 18:30
G'day putrol
About the lift.
A lot of people talk about lifts but most don't mention the starting point and 80mm lift might be only 35 mm more than what they had.
A Dmax is supposed to have 80mm between the axle and the bump rubber as std.
However, when you buy one, the clearance at the back axle is about 60mm so 20 less than the alledged 80mm.
When you carry anything or put a van on the towball the clearance diminished more to about 25-30mm if you are lucky.
If you hit a bump at this level then there is suddenness and it isn't good for the axle or the chassis or occupants.
So an 80 mm lift might be well within the legal allowable, just depends where the penalty marker is at the beginning of the race.

A further note.
Many people want a particular tow bar height and while it is important the ride height of the suspension parts is critical to handling and component life.
Nearly all modern 3lt vehicles don't have much travel left when towing and this bad. Whitout much travel the chassis, wheel bearings and caravan chassis are all at risk of damage.

Ross M
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Reply By: Pouchey - Tuesday, May 01, 2012 at 22:11

Tuesday, May 01, 2012 at 22:11
Pookies

Super Spring

I have a Colorado 2011 LTR & took measurements when new with the bottom of the towbar 345mm above GL
Fitted a long range tank 130lts, canopy & a small amount of gear in the back with tank full dropped the arse end by 35mm (not happy) & now towbar sitting 310mm above G/L.
Fitted the super spring which has two settings (set on heavy setting) & with a full tank bottom of towbar measured 390mm.
My ball weight when towing is around 260-280kg which dropped the springs approx 40-45mm.
Just returned from a 2,000km trip with van on back & they performed brilliantly. The beauty is they only come into play when you put the weight on & don’t seem to affect the ride when empty. Cost $520 & fitted myself in approx 1hr.
After the springs had settled bottom of towbar is approx 380mm from GL.
So far pleased with the performance. Link Attached above
Cheers Mick
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Reply By: Member - Stuart P (WA) - Tuesday, May 01, 2012 at 23:24

Tuesday, May 01, 2012 at 23:24
beware air bags and heavy loads on the dmax/colorado, this last week had to do a repair to a severely damaged chassis. you are better off with heavier spring package
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Thursday, May 03, 2012 at 12:31

Thursday, May 03, 2012 at 12:31
g'day all

I've got the cab/chassis 2011 dmax and thought I might get the supersprings for it.

However, I can't find where to buy them.

Can someone help.

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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Thursday, May 03, 2012 at 12:42

Thursday, May 03, 2012 at 12:42
Dohhh...I didn't see the link.

Sorry about that.


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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Thursday, May 03, 2012 at 15:55

Thursday, May 03, 2012 at 15:55
Well,,,,have I had the right royal run around trying to get a price etc on supersprings.

I rang ateco the australian distributor. They informed me that they have recently taken over SS ad the previous distributor has gone out of business.

They the said they were on longer made in the USA, but were know made in Sth Africa. She also said noone would have them in stock as they had to order them in.

I then asked for the nearest distributor to Newcastle NSW and was told it was opp lock.

I was given their number and gave them a ring. The bloke I spoke to did not have a clue and said they didn't stock them and told me to try TJM or ironman.

I then rang Ateco again and the person I spoke to was not there and was transferred to the main switch who was also not there and her message bank was full.

No wonder people shop on line overseas.



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Follow Up By: Member - willawa - Thursday, May 03, 2012 at 21:18

Thursday, May 03, 2012 at 21:18
I spoke to Dave at Ateco today and he told me that they were in the process of setting up retail outlets and Opp Lock
Brookvale (Northern beaches NSW) can help me out ,as they are familiar with the product.
Seems to read well on their web site

cost for a set $500 part no for D-Max ,Colorado S7.


S'pose one needs to give them a bit of time to sort things out seeing that they have only recently taken on the product.
Know doubt they will be swamped with enquiries after this Forum
May be Dave was out when you called BooBoo ,but I found them more than helpful.

Their phone number is 1300 669 951.

cheers
Ed

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Follow Up By: Pouchey - Thursday, May 03, 2012 at 22:15

Thursday, May 03, 2012 at 22:15
Ed
I got mine through FnB 4x4 Mt Barker SA & I know F&B Motors (two different business believe it or not) in Cummins SA has also sourced sets through the importer above.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Friday, May 04, 2012 at 08:09

Friday, May 04, 2012 at 08:09
G'day Ed

Thats the number I rang.

I might give them another couple of weeks to get their act together.

Unfortunately I did not speak to Dave. However, no company should leave their phones unattended and i'ts not hard to empty a 'message bank'.

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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Friday, May 04, 2012 at 10:40

Friday, May 04, 2012 at 10:40
I must have run over a chinaman or broke a mirror!

I am a gluton for punishment,,,, I rang Ateco again today and got another recorded message. I left a messag and they actually got back to me.

I was given 2 more places to try. Oldaz load rail in Wickham and Miles Mechanics in Merrylands.

Oldaz had me on hold for 4 to 5 minutes then someone said hello Ritchie? I said hello back and they hung up on me!

I then tried Merrylands and the bloke said he would get back to me in an hour.

Lets see how it goes.

The saga continues.

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Follow Up By: Member - willawa - Friday, May 04, 2012 at 17:16

Friday, May 04, 2012 at 17:16
Hang in there Boo Boo things may work out sooner than later.
I will speaking to Opp Lock on Monday?tuesday and will let you know how I get on.
(may be a few days until I have the answer as I will be away)

Ed
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Friday, May 04, 2012 at 17:29

Friday, May 04, 2012 at 17:29
Thanks Ed

I also spoke to a bloke in Marylands and he quoted $499 plus 2 hours labour.

I also got back onto Oldaz, earlier this afternoon, and they said I dropped out. I am now waiting for them to get back to me with a quote.

Ed, do you know how long your blokes will take to due the job? Most of the reviews seem to indicate and hour or less, even if you do it your self.

I won't commit to either until I get a reply after you have had the job done.

Thanks for the help.

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Follow Up By: Pouchey - Friday, May 04, 2012 at 17:38

Friday, May 04, 2012 at 17:38
Ed & Boo

When I purchased mine FnB quoted me $65 to fit approx 1hr.
Like I said in earlier post taking my time I did it myself in around that time having to jack each side up remove wheels & place the super spring in place, the rubber block on the axle, bolt one end shackle & using a G clamp on opposite end tighten up until you have the other shackle bolted fairly easy & I am no mechanic.

Cheers
Mick

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Follow Up By: Pouchey - Friday, May 04, 2012 at 17:54

Friday, May 04, 2012 at 17:54
Further to my previous I rang the crew below & they have a few sets of the springs in stock, they may have one to suit.

FNB 4WD Supplies
26 Light Crescent
Mount Barker SA 5251

Telephone:
1300 307 165


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Follow Up By: Rosss- Saturday, May 05, 2012 at 00:32

Saturday, May 05, 2012 at 00:32
Make sure you get the right one, there are 2 different springs for the colorado, one is an "S4" and the other one is an "S4-HD", depending on how much load you want to carry. The S4 is a 400kg spring and the S4-HD is a 600kg one. A lot of the dealers don't seam to know this. David from ateco told me this himself. His Mobile number is 0499777747.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Tuesday, May 08, 2012 at 12:13

Tuesday, May 08, 2012 at 12:13
Thanks Rosss

I know I'm carrying more than 400kg at times (including the Pod, LRT, Battery and 38 litre water tank, so I'll get the S4-HD.

I,m still waiting for a reply from Oldaz, so far not really impressed with their disrtibutors.

I'll wait for a reply from Ed before I make a decision.

Thanks for that info Rosss.



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Follow Up By: Member - Stuart P (WA) - Wednesday, May 09, 2012 at 00:46

Wednesday, May 09, 2012 at 00:46
west coast suspension may have the answer . 400kg is almost at limit. have fitted police pods that weigh that much. have had to lift the rear with west coast 's springs about 300 mm
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Follow Up By: Member - willawa - Wednesday, May 16, 2012 at 21:33

Wednesday, May 16, 2012 at 21:33
well guys I think I have sorted it.
I have spoken to Bruce at Ateco Sydney and Ian at Opp Lock in Brookvale and have decided to go with a set of S4's (4000kgs).

$500 or $595 fitted.

Cheers

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Follow Up By: Member - Boo Boo (NSW) - Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 17:58

Thursday, May 17, 2012 at 17:58
G'day Ed

Thanks for getting back to the thread with your results.

I know these SS are suppose to be good, but 4000 Kgs! LOL

I was in Mt Isa on Monday and had some time to kill so I wandered into a 4WD Megastore and there they were. A pair of SS at $450, unfortunately not the right ones for the Dmax.

They have been selling them for years and knew about Ateco taking over.

I am undecided about which set to get ie the 400kg or the HD 600kg
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