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Submitted: Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 09:40
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Hi I am a new member would like some help,
in the market of a new dual cab 4x4 ute, the two front runners are amarok and ranger. does any body have these new utes? or any input would be appreciated.
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Reply By: redgp - Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:25

Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:25
The best two available in Oz at the moment by all accounts.

The VW for cabin space (and width between wheel arches in the rear), good economy from that small motor and VW build quality.

But I choose a Ford Ranger XLT, I got a better price, bigger engine and a 6 speed auto with standard rear diff lock. The cabin is enormous compared to all others (except VW) and is big enough for the two of us. Test driving each of them on the same day and route proved the Ranger smoother, quieter and just a nicer overall drive. We also liked the looks of the Ranger . WE tour Oz so service facilities in the bush play a part in our decision and one is likely to find more Ford dealers in outback towns than VW. (or at least someone that will look at a problem in a Ford rather than an "exotic"- trust me - we have done two laps of Oz in a Jeep and know this as a fact).

My 2c worth....
They gave me my SIDO number yesterday and say I will have my new Ranger Supercab XLT 3.2 6 speed Auto in 3 weeks. The aluminium tray has arrived at home and the new slide on camper build is under way.

I will have to change my user name from Red Jeep to 2RNOZ (the new personal number plate on order)

Steve
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Follow Up By: TONY G7 - Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:46

Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:46
Thanks for the info
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Follow Up By: Member - Geoff M (VIC) - Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 14:48

Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 14:48
Hi Steve,

Congrats on your new vehicle and hope you get plenty of use from it.

Just one word of warning from my own personal experience - keep the weight down to the absolute minimum. Just because it has a GVM of xxx doesn't mean it can carry it long term on rough outback roads, I learnt the hard way that the previous model BT50/Ranger is not up to carrying a slideon camper in the outback.

Cheers, Geoff

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Follow Up By: Mazdave - Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 15:10

Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 15:10
Geoff,
We all know you had a bad experience with an older BT50, (you've told us enough by now!) but everytime someone asks for advise about a new Mazda, Ford which is a completely different vehicle, your negative comments dont have any relevance and to be quite frank seem to be just sour grapes.

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Follow Up By: redgp - Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 15:42

Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 15:42
Thanks Geoff,

My son has the older model Ranger, he is an Electrician, he has done 200,000 trouble free kilometres with the 2.5 litre 2wd version with an (always overloaded) tradies back.

My slide on is being custom built to suit a shorter and narrower tray. The tray itself is 100 kilos lighter than the well body it replaced, The slide on does not hang out from the side of the cab nor extend past the chassis rail ends and is only 50mm higher than the roof of the cab. It weighs (empty) 390kilos.
100 litres water in two tanks, 2 /100 amp hour gel batteries, clothes, food, kitchen stuff and associated camping gear will add (approx) another 300 kilos.

600 - 650 kilos placed centrally over the rear axle will be far easier on the truck than the 1300kilo off road camper that we towed behind the CRD Wrangler for the last four years all around Oz.

When all finished in the next month or so we will head down to the local suspension specialist and have whatever done to make it ride just right (helper springs or air bags if needed).

Thanks for your word of warning and I suppose it is the same for any 1 ton ute and would be a good warning to a prospective vw ute purchaser.
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Reply By: AlbyNSW - Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:06

Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:06
I would pick the Ranger out of the two. The Amarok motor is too small, I know they squirrel the HP out but I think you are better with a bigger more relaxed motor for longevity
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Follow Up By: TONY G7 - Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:52

Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:52
i tend to agree the ranger is over priced for what it is
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Reply By: member - mazcan - Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:38

Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:38
hi tonyg7
dont know how soon you want to buy but the
new amarok with 132kw diesel and 8speed auto with a higher towing capacity
is coming very soon and will be even better for towing than the current model

there was a thread in last couple of weeks on here about a lastest dualcab ranger with a blown gearbox while on its way to darwin from nsw towing a van within its kg capability
cheers
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Follow Up By: TONY G7 - Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:49

Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:49
Thanks i have had two preys the ranger and one the amarok,
i do prefer the amarok but the smaller engine concerns me
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Reply By: Mazdave - Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 14:59

Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 14:59
HI Tony,
If you are considering the Ranger, then you should get a price on the Mazda BT50. I preferred the Ranger, but the Mazda was $6k cheaper for the same model, (and In my opinion the same car) I know the look is a bit polarising, but $6k diff for the same car, it grows on you! So I bought the Mazda, have a slide on camper and have just recently got back from a trip up through Corner country. very happy with its performance etc.
However, you will definitely need to upgrade your suspension and / or airbags to carry the weight.
My 2 bobs worth.
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Follow Up By: TONY G7 - Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 15:27

Wednesday, Jun 27, 2012 at 15:27
Thanks any info is good info.
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Follow Up By: Wolfy03 - Thursday, Jun 28, 2012 at 23:02

Thursday, Jun 28, 2012 at 23:02
FYI Tony...I have a 2010 d40 dual cab navara and work in the refrigeration/electrical/air con trade. I have a gitsham alloy service body on the bag weighing 450-500kg on any given working day. The box can be hoisted off n car driven away if need be. I've had air bags on them since day one..while they've been more than reliable theyve def due for an upgrade because the constant weight has become of concern with the original factory set up. I've bn doin my research as of late...the last six months in fact and I have narrowed it down to two...sax suspension and tough dog but leaning more towards sax simply because of customer service and warranty period. Will be having this fitted in next 6wks.
Will keep you posted.
Hope this helps.
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Reply By: jacent - Friday, Jun 29, 2012 at 23:53

Friday, Jun 29, 2012 at 23:53
My mate just got the brand new ranger, with diesel 6 speed auto, he's very happy with it, 14-15litres per 100 km towing 2tonne off road van, very smooth auto, looks good and lots of leg room in back seats for tall buggers like me, seats are comfy too!


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