brand new zd30

Submitted: Monday, Jul 02, 2012 at 10:05
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can anyone help me with info on brand new crate zd30 engines? Of course, my old zd30 just went bang, so im looking for replacements. Have considered many options, TD42, chev, cummins, gen3, reading good and bad about all of these solutions.
I can buy a brand spankin long engine (ZD30) for about $6500. What are the chances of this one going Kablamo! just like the last 2 did?
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Reply By: bluefella - Monday, Jul 02, 2012 at 11:05

Monday, Jul 02, 2012 at 11:05
there was a member on here that transplanted a 4.2TD toyota into a patrol,seemed to be a good fix,patrol running gear (tough as teak) and the reliability of the 1HDFTE motor,not sure about cost,he called it TONI so if you do a search on TONI it may give you more info.
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Follow Up By: Kimba10 - Monday, Jul 02, 2012 at 19:09

Monday, Jul 02, 2012 at 19:09
Cost was just over 21k for the whole thing...........
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Reply By: Member - MUZBRY(Vic) - Monday, Jul 02, 2012 at 12:53

Monday, Jul 02, 2012 at 12:53
Gday Kiwi patrol
Get hold of Bonz as he changed the motor in his Patrol after Silverton last year with a new motor . Not to sure of the details, but he is a nice fella.



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Reply By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Monday, Jul 02, 2012 at 16:56

Monday, Jul 02, 2012 at 16:56
Hi Kiwi Patrol,

On Patrol, a member here, converted his Patrol to a 1HD FTE and from all reports is very satisfied with the outcome.

It was not cheap and did take some shoe horning to get it in. Had someone else do it for him as I remember.

Do a search for On Patrol and maybe you will come up with some info.

I agree, why put another hand grenade in there to go off in the future again ???.

Personally I would go the Gen 3.

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Follow Up By: kiwi patrol - Monday, Jul 02, 2012 at 17:17

Monday, Jul 02, 2012 at 17:17
Thanks mate, just learned the Toyota conversion has been done a few times now with apparently great success, however , at a cost of some $24,000 !!!
Good lord! These blokes must be keen!
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Monday, Jul 02, 2012 at 17:54

Monday, Jul 02, 2012 at 17:54
I would imagine a gen 3 conversion could be done for half that.
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Reply By: Kimba10 - Monday, Jul 02, 2012 at 19:20

Monday, Jul 02, 2012 at 19:20
Id be whacking a new one in it. Its worth nothing as it is so obviously sone thing needs to be done, I certainly wouldnt be spending 24k on it. Each to their own and project toni is a brilliant job and the owners intend keeping it till its wheels fall off and they do some extreme off roading and a whole heap of touring and its what he wanted, reliability and patrol driveline. Ive seen the conversion myself in toni and is briliant, the bloke Jason who did the job is very talented (if that the right word). $6500 is cheap I think for a diesel and with a few mods people have made these engines quit reliable, few guages etc to keep and eye on things and some mods done to the exhaust recirc etc (heaps on info on it all, just punch in ZD30 and you will be reading for months). Unless you intend keeping it for an extremely long period of time dollar wise you be better going with what your thinking (crate engine) and if your handy on the tools you could probably do most yourself (only you know if your capable or not to do the job). I may be wrong but is this the first time its gone bang ?? I remember years ago reading one of your posts but cant remember if it was an issue with the patrol or some thing else ?? ...................................
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Follow Up By: kiwi patrol - Tuesday, Jul 03, 2012 at 06:51

Tuesday, Jul 03, 2012 at 06:51
Thanks kimba, i think your right. If you want a bullet proof 4wd, and willing to spend whatever it takes to acheive that, project TONI is the way to go. However, i just want a reliable truck!
I have only owned it for 18 months. I bought this particular one because the previous owner had already done the first engine, paid $9000 for a reco engine so it would supposedly not happen again!
I have done 40,000kms in it, going around australia towing a heavy camper. It never missed a beat while it was working its backside off! I have been just driving it to and from work for a couple of months now, and its blown. I suspect this is what happens to alot of them. Work them hard- fine, drive it easy- booooom! Its the crate engine, then carsales.com for me! Sorry nissan, I tried, and you let me down. Toyota, here i come
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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Jul 03, 2012 at 11:33

Tuesday, Jul 03, 2012 at 11:33
Just make sure you get a EGT gauge and keep an eye on it. Thats how to get the life from these motors I reckon. I hate to think what mine was running when it went bang. Probably over 1000.

Like I said, $6500 is a great price for one of these motors but check the manufacturer year. Mine cost near twice that plus fitting. Mines a series 4 and its excellent, eveything the first engine wasnt
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Follow Up By: kiwi patrol - Tuesday, Jul 03, 2012 at 21:04

Tuesday, Jul 03, 2012 at 21:04
Just pulled the head off to find what appears (visually at this stage) to be perfect bores and pistons, and a very nasty looking crack in #4, running from glow plug hole to ex. valve. Quite possibly the cause of crankcase/tappet cover pressurization, the oil smoke out the exhaust, and the old running on 3 cylinders trick!
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Jul 03, 2012 at 21:21

Tuesday, Jul 03, 2012 at 21:21
Thats reminds me, I must pull the head off mine and take a look one day.
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Reply By: howesy - Tuesday, Jul 03, 2012 at 18:49

Tuesday, Jul 03, 2012 at 18:49
Any conversion is going to result in an overcapitalisation on a rig that will owe you 5 times what its worth and after 2 others????? I'd take the 6500 add it to what ever you get for the scrap you have now (or put motorin then sell) and get rid of it and get a proper $WD that doesnt have you glued to guages instead of the road and scenery.

Just my opinion but you couldnt give me one.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Jul 03, 2012 at 21:22

Tuesday, Jul 03, 2012 at 21:22
By the way they are worth about $4-5k with a broken motor, thats top $$'s too I reckon.
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Reply By: kiwi patrol - Wednesday, Jul 04, 2012 at 09:38

Wednesday, Jul 04, 2012 at 09:38
THE PRICK WHO DESIGNED THE ZD30 SHOULD BE F#$KED!!!!!
Who the hell designed this thing? a bloody frenchman?? You cannot get the sump off without removing the gearbox!
And whoever decided to put this hunk of junk in a 4WD should be tried for crimes against humanity!
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