4.8 Patrol

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hi guys .What I want to know is what is considered high kms for this model patrol.As Im looking at a 2004 ti with180,000kms on it.They want $27,000 for it.Your advice will be good .Thanks Uppy
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Reply By: Bushranger1 - Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 17:46

Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 17:46
G'day,
Can't give you specifics about the Patrol but to me what is important is regular CORRECT servicing not so much milage.
My 2004 Falcon has done 330,00 trouble free km's because the coolants & ALL lubricants have been regularly changed.
I would rather buy a well serviced Patrol thats done 180,000 km than one thats done 100,000 km but has not been serviced correctly.

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Follow Up By: Bushranger1 - Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 17:51

Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 17:51
I might add that dealer servicing is not necessarily CORRECT servicing but I won't go there because it's been done to death on this site.
I do it all myself so I know it's done right.
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Follow Up By: uppy - Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 19:42

Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 19:42
thanks for the reply.Ive checked the service history looks good
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Reply By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 17:54

Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 17:54
If the vehicle is in good order and has been serviced regularly as Bushranger said, then that is NOT high mileage.

The 4.2 are the toughest from all that I have read but servicing is the weak point on any vehicle if it is neglected.

I bought a petrol cruiser with 316,000 on it, it had been serviced regularly, and it never missed a beat.

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Follow Up By: uppy - Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 19:44

Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 19:44
thanks for the info.Ive got a petrol gq that gets serice every 10,000 ks.Its just tick over 265,000 ks
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Reply By: Gossy - Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 18:10

Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 18:10
yep agree in theory this isn't high mileage. Concept that diesel lasts longer than Petrol is correct as long as the servicing has been done. Doesn't change the fact though that other moving parts still break and have a limited lifespan (clutch, alternator, water pumps, wheel bearings etc).

In this case all the above should be OK but worth checking though.

Price is hard to gauge. I think your best bet is to get on carpoint.com.au and use the filters on the left so see what else is around for that price and mileage. You'll know fairly quickly if it's a fair price or not.

Good Luck.
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Follow Up By: uppy - Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 19:47

Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 19:47
I agree will get the other parts checked
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 18:48

Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 18:48
The ks are ok but the price is high in my opinion.. Because of the high cost of fuel, the prices of these big petrol guzzlers are way down.. I would think you should be paying less than $20,000 for that vehicle. Remember that in a year or so of ownership, it will be a 10 year old vehicle!!
Check other vehicles of similar age and condition.. Also you are probably looking at 18 to 20 litres per hundred around town and god knows how much if you own a caravan.. Hopefully Robin Miller might join in and give you some finely tuned guidance!!! Michael



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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 18:51

Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 18:51
I'm guessing that it is a 4800 Petrol!!! Michael


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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 19:27

Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 19:27
Uppy! I just realised it is a TI, sorry about that! I guess that the going price of that vehicle, being a TI, would probably be close to the asking price. The gear level in the TI is pretty good!! Michael


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Follow Up By: uppy - Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 19:49

Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 19:49
yep Michaei its got every thing to keep my 3 teenages ,boys quiet for awhile
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 20:57

Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 20:57
Hi Michael

Yes then engine is designed for 250 k so 180 k isn't to much if cared for.

I have just put a bid in on my 3rd one actually , its a strange world but I find that the 4800's are starting to become a collectors type car - getting rare and prices climbing.

It appears that many of these are being worked over as the car of choice for hard core work.

We are searching everywhere for a manual and almost none exist below 20k for a 10 year old car , and the only one we found in 2 months is well worn with 270k on it.

I see plenty of long nights in the garage ahead.
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Follow Up By: uppy - Thursday, Jul 12, 2012 at 09:14

Thursday, Jul 12, 2012 at 09:14
thanks Robin.Im not to worried about how much petrol they use .How much does it cost to put a 2nd Battery in them?cheers Uppy
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Reply By: Trev&Ness B - Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 20:03

Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 20:03
uppy
i just bought a 2003 4.8 st from a dealer in perth and it was $25k, 1 owner and in mint condition, it had only 116000kms , so i would think even though its a ti it is alittle over priced. Also be aware of the problem of fitting a second bat in the normal place because there is a a/c unit there in the Ti and stl model. Other than that they are a awesome car. they do use a little bit more fuel around town but the price of diesel it doesnt end up to much more. I got about 22ltrs /100kms towing a 2000kg trailer, not to bad i recon.
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Follow Up By: uppy - Thursday, Jul 12, 2012 at 09:18

Thursday, Jul 12, 2012 at 09:18
thanks for your reply Trev.Im going to try and drop the price down as it needs new tyres .How much does it cost for a 2nd bat set up?thanks Uppy
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Reply By: Member - Peter B6 - Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 20:39

Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 20:39
Hi uppy
I had a 2003 st 4.8 auto. I bought it in 2005 with 72000 ks. gassed it a year later with 90000ks traded it in 2010 with 1750000 ks the only modifications was extractors and a 2.75 mandrel bent exhaust and a larger sub tank. Now the exhaust was cheaper than replacing the cracked exhaust manifold. In hindsight the gas conversion probably wasn't money well spent. The truck was excellent and providing I didn't drive it like I just stole it The economy wasn't too bad i.e. 14.5 litres/hundred at highway speed and 20-22 ltrs around town/city and 25 ltrs towing 2 tonne van. I now own a diesel but I sure miss the instant power on tap from the big 6.
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter B6 - Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 20:41

Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 20:41
Must clarify. The economy figures are petrol not LPG.
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Follow Up By: uppy - Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 20:55

Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 20:55
thanks pete.Ive been driving a gq petrol here for 10 years it gets about 25 lits aroung town so a 4.800 will be a drop in fuel thanks for the feed back
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 21:01

Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 21:01
My first one averaged 16.4lt/100km over its 200,000km Uppy (manual driven quietly except when challenged.

Whereas my new one a 2011 auto is 17-18lt/100km.
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Follow Up By: uppy - Thursday, Jul 12, 2012 at 09:21

Thursday, Jul 12, 2012 at 09:21
Pete Im not going to put it on gas.I take jerry cans when I go outback.cheers Uppy
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Reply By: madfisher - Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 20:54

Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 20:54
I just done a valuation on car sales and the trade in price guide is
17700 to 20800
private sales 22000 to 25100
and av ks are 120000 to 200000ks.
The ks are a little high so use that as a bargaining chip to get it down to $25000.
But personally I would keep looking for one that has 100000 to 120000ks. Once vehicles get over 200000ks they lose value and are harder to move.
Cheers Pete
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 21:03

Wednesday, Jul 11, 2012 at 21:03
Yes , in Victoria the mandatory guarantee runs out if car has done more than 160,000 or 10 years old.
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Follow Up By: uppy - Thursday, Jul 12, 2012 at 09:02

Thursday, Jul 12, 2012 at 09:02
thanks for the feed back,I will look at other ti around the same price.cheers Uppy
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Reply By: Geoff in SA - Thursday, Jul 12, 2012 at 08:00

Thursday, Jul 12, 2012 at 08:00
Hi Uppy
if you are going to tow with it then the best thing to tow is a petrol tanker trailer

they are real thirsty
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Follow Up By: uppy - Thursday, Jul 12, 2012 at 09:07

Thursday, Jul 12, 2012 at 09:07
Ive been driving a efi gq for the last 10 years Im not to worried about their thirsty .I take gerry cans when I go on outback trips.Thanks Uppy
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Reply By: madfisher - Thursday, Jul 12, 2012 at 13:08

Thursday, Jul 12, 2012 at 13:08
Uppy I had a friend who had a 4.2 petrol Maverick, and she got 540000k out of the orinigal engine, but it did a lot of long runs. But injected engines usually last longer then carby motors as their is no fuel running down bores when cold. I came accross a Jackaroo the other day that has 488000ks on the orinigal motor as well.
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Reply By: Ozdakar - Thursday, Jul 12, 2012 at 21:00

Thursday, Jul 12, 2012 at 21:00
Hey there Uppy,

I have a GQ 4.2 that now has 430k on it with only 2 headgasket changes & have just bought a 2003 ST 4.8 auto with 137k for $24,000. Its got a full service history & a really clean body.

I have been looking for quite a while to find a good one & they are really rare.

Oh & mine isnt that bad on fuel compared to the GQ so all good I think & will be a great tow car.

Cheers
Andrew
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Reply By: Ferret - Sunday, Jul 22, 2012 at 05:08

Sunday, Jul 22, 2012 at 05:08
My old GQEFI had 345000ks on it when I sold it. Other than servicing I never laid a spanner on it and it never let me down. 180k is nothing if its been serviced like everyone says.
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