Gas Bottles
Submitted: Sunday, Jul 15, 2012 at 16:59
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BJ & Reen
Hi folks wondering if any one can help, i have been told that there are two types of gas bottles barbecue type, caravan type is this true and if so why?
how do u identify the differents
Thanks for ur time BJ
Reply By: racinrob - Sunday, Jul 15, 2012 at 17:13
Sunday, Jul 15, 2012 at 17:13
There are 4 grades of LPG bottles, Grade 1 is from memory Galvanized and is for marine applications , Grade 2 is suitable for carrying on the A frame of your caravan, Grades 3 and 4 are a lighter grade and are for patio use.
If you
check the collar of a bottle you will find a number inside circle, this is the one you look for when you are swapping your bottle at a "Swap and Go", that as
well as the date.
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Follow Up By: Member - Rod N (QLD) - Sunday, Jul 15, 2012 at 17:26
Sunday, Jul 15, 2012 at 17:26
Interesting, I didn't know that. I wonder how many people do. My van bottles are in a separate enclosed compartment. What do I have to use?
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Follow Up By: Bigfish - Sunday, Jul 15, 2012 at 17:58
Sunday, Jul 15, 2012 at 17:58
There are gas bottles now manufactured from stainless steel too that are for marine use. Not cheap but specific for a harsh marine environment.
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Follow Up By: The Bantam - Monday, Jul 16, 2012 at 16:48
Monday, Jul 16, 2012 at 16:48
Rod mate I am realy concerned that so many campers and caravans seem to have "enclosed" compartments for gass bottles.
This frightens the B'jesus out of me.
Stop, do not pass GO, do not collect $200,
check this "enclosed" compartment and make sure there is plenty of ventilation (big holes...BIG holes) provided in the top and the bottom of the compartment.
Remember Bantam's "FART TEST"....if you farted in that compartment would the smell disipate as fast as it would in open air...if not it is dangerous.
Remember caravans burn and caravans explode and far more often than is openly reported.
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Sunday, Jul 15, 2012 at 17:45
Sunday, Jul 15, 2012 at 17:45
LPG cylinders come in different sizes for a similar capacity too.
If you
check the
ELGAS site, their 9kg Swap'n'Go cylinders are listed with a diameter range between 309mm-335mm are a height range between 450mm-525mm.
That is a large variation when you are looking for a replacement cyclinder for your camper or caravan where it is retained by a circular clamp for instance.
The height may be less significant although the higher size range may cause problems for BBQs and Heaters.
I do not use Swap'n'Go cylinders and purchase
mine from the same retailer which have an option for one's in both 9kg and 4kg with a built-in gauge operated by an internal float. These are consistant in both height and diameter measurements.
Why the variation in size, even from the same manufacturer, I have no idea.
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Follow Up By: Member - Wamuranman - Sunday, Jul 15, 2012 at 18:26
Sunday, Jul 15, 2012 at 18:26
Yes Sand man is correct...the sizes do vary.
Unfortunately we just got caught out and had to lose our brand new bottle from our brand new van at a swap and go. When I put the exchange one in I had to tighten the metal strap considerably ...it was a smaller diameter. Then I noticed it said 8.5kg on the bottle. I am sure the new one I surrendered said 9kg.
Travellers beware in some
places there is only swap n go...they will not refill your existing bottle. We were about to head further west and didn't want to risk running out of gas. Now I have one nice new bottle on our van and one crappy swap n go smaller bottle.
I am so mad I did that now.
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Reply By: Member - Peter R (QLD) - Sunday, Jul 15, 2012 at 21:18
Sunday, Jul 15, 2012 at 21:18
Check out
Gas bottle standards
From above regulations
1 Hot Dip Galvanizing
2 Abrasive blasted + inorganic zinc rich coating + organic zinc rich coating.
3 Sprayed Zinc Coating
4 Red oxide or polyester powder coat.
Stainless steel would probably be the best for caravan usage, but they are likely to be quite expensive. So, when exchanging gas bottles, the number 1 in the circle should be preferred. The number 2 bottles should be the minimal treatment for caravan usage. The number 3 and the powder coated type with number 4 in the circle should be restricted to
home use.
Most of the swap bottles I have seen are for
home use only so I always get
mine filled.
Pedro
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Follow Up By: racinrob - Monday, Jul 16, 2012 at 15:06
Monday, Jul 16, 2012 at 15:06
For interest sake I looked up stainless steel LPG bottles at a marine supplier, a 4.5 kilo bottle on special at $499.00 !!!
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