Petrol or Diesel 200 Series?

G'day all

This is probably one of the most asked question on most forums, but I am looking Vat changing over my 100 Series LC V8 Sahara on a 200 Series.

My wife and I are doing the oz trip next year and including cape york, savannah way, GBH and canning SR.

My concern is economy on the petrol, (we are towing an off road Jayco Eagle) and of course range per tank(s) for petrol against the diesel.

Any thoughts or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You
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Reply By: Member - wicket - Thursday, Aug 23, 2012 at 16:22

Thursday, Aug 23, 2012 at 16:22
Given the amount of people you hear having issues with the quality of diesel and the effects on the CRD injectors ($$$$$) etc I'd be giving serious thought to the petrol version, or at the very least investing in a quality water separator/pre filter if you go the diesel route.
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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Friday, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:38

Friday, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:38
We bought the petrol version and around town get around 15-16 litres per 100, best we have gotten on a trip is 12.9 Litres per 100. If I were towing all the time I would buy the diesel, reckon the 200 series is not a throttle responsive as my 100 Series V8 was. The diesel fuel issue seems to have quietened. The petrol engine is silky quiet no doubting it's longevity also
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Reply By: Member - Boobook - Thursday, Aug 23, 2012 at 16:43

Thursday, Aug 23, 2012 at 16:43
Brian and Judy, go to lcool and join up to get informed replies. There is a considerable discussion on this exact subject and people who actually own them as opposed to people who just guess about possible issues.
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Reply By: chisel - Thursday, Aug 23, 2012 at 17:21

Thursday, Aug 23, 2012 at 17:21
It has been discussed on lcool as recently as yesterday.
One thing that may be relevant is that the economy of the petrol in the 200 has improved considerably versus the 100 V8 petrol ... whereas the 200 TTD diesel is only marginally (and some say not at all) better than the 100 TD
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Follow Up By: Member - Captain (WA) - Thursday, Aug 23, 2012 at 19:20

Thursday, Aug 23, 2012 at 19:20
As an avid LCOOL reader, where are the posts with any 200 owner reckons the 100TD is better than the 200TD, perhaps apart from economy?

As for the OP, some good food for thought on LCOOL with owners of both petrol and diesel debating the issue.

Cheers

Captain
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Follow Up By: Kris and Kev - Thursday, Aug 23, 2012 at 19:42

Thursday, Aug 23, 2012 at 19:42
' the 200 TTD diesel is only marginally (and some say not at all) better than the 100 TD' What the! Believe me there is a big difference! Back in 2009 I took several 100 TDs for a test drive, then I took a diesel 200 series and it was a no contest. Bought a new one and have done 125,000 k's and still love it, on and off road. The diesel is brilliant. Dirty fuel can be a problem with all modern diesels, so if you do get one make sure your vehicle insurance will cover it. Personally, I would buy a diesel again.
Kevin
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Follow Up By: chisel - Thursday, Aug 23, 2012 at 22:20

Thursday, Aug 23, 2012 at 22:20
I'm talking about economy, nothing else. And that is probably because the 200 owners use the available power more often than not.
I thought I was pretty clear.
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Reply By: graham B9 - Thursday, Aug 23, 2012 at 19:31

Thursday, Aug 23, 2012 at 19:31
Brian,

I had a 200 and was very happy with it but for the cost of change over, compared with what you have, I would without a doubt stay with the 100. The 4.7 V8 is great for towing and there will be places where you might have to fill up at a higher cost (Barkley Homestead for example) but this represents a fraction of the cost of changeover.

Perhaps put in an additional in line fuel filter and carry a few spares. They are only about $7 each from Supercheap.

You are going to get some stone chips and better on an older car than a new one. You can always change later.
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Reply By: Legendts - Thursday, Aug 23, 2012 at 20:46

Thursday, Aug 23, 2012 at 20:46
I had a 100 series Sahara and in 2009 bought a 200 Sahara both diesel. For towing ability IMHO you can't beat the diesel for torque and gives reasonable economy. I tow 3.2t and get an average of 21l/100klm that has been averaged over two trips to qld towing the van via the Newell and coast road so copped it all, heavy rain, strong winds and hill country. The worst economy was 26 but that was pushing hard into strong headwinds, steep hills and rain where we would normally have had a rest day but had commitments to meet. The 100 under similar conditions used to average 23 and a worst of 28 and needed to work hard to do the same that the 200 does effortlessly. I believe one of the major advantages in the diesel other than tow ability is minimal maintenance costs and reliability. This is my 4th cruiser and all have been diesel. Personally would not consider a petrol for the van I tow.
I recently looked into updating and was offered a diesel Sahara for $107k. Not sure where it had been as nowhere could you obtain an update for under three months but do believe you should be able to do a deal (diesel) for just under or close to $110k in Victoria.
Just my opinion as a cruiser owner and 200 owner for almost three years and definitely get onto LCOOL as there is a wealth of experience and assistance. I would buy another one tomorrow if I had more money and less sense :-)
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Reply By: Dennis Ellery - Thursday, Aug 23, 2012 at 22:08

Thursday, Aug 23, 2012 at 22:08
When you calculate the difference, over the life of a vehicle, between a diesel’s operating costs and its inertial purchase price compared to a petrol version – there is not a lot of difference.
You need to consider a diesels torque, reliability, durability, life, resale value etc.
Thats why they are used in heavy industry and commercial operations, miners, trucks, tractors etc
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Reply By: Brian & Judy S - Friday, Aug 24, 2012 at 08:09

Friday, Aug 24, 2012 at 08:09
Hi all

Many many thanks for all your feedback, it does help to have others opinion who have done this.

From other posts here as well as LCool I have options that need serious consideration.

If I keep the 100S Sahara I have no option but to go dual fuel for travelling costs reasons, if I sell her, I will go the diesel 200 series.

If anyone has any input or does and don'ts going gas on the V8 petrol, that would be welcomed and appreciated too.

Thanks all

Safe travels
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