What do you think?

Submitted: Thursday, Jan 15, 2004 at 16:44
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Hi guys, i've got the standard 2F motor and 4 speed gear box in my fj55, i want to replace it with a 3F or a diesel. What do you guys think, or will they even bolt up to the gear box i've got? Or do you suggest something different?

Cheers!
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Reply By: LBJ - Thursday, Jan 15, 2004 at 16:55

Thursday, Jan 15, 2004 at 16:55
what about a 5.0 v8...........
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Follow Up By: Synergist - Thursday, Jan 15, 2004 at 17:01

Thursday, Jan 15, 2004 at 17:01
Yeah, that has crossed my mind. But i keep hearing from others to "keep it toyota" and cost is another factor!
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Follow Up By: LBJ - Thursday, Jan 15, 2004 at 17:18

Thursday, Jan 15, 2004 at 17:18
thats cool...............you can get out of it fairly cheap though. a 5.0 is only $700.00 that is is g.c and you can normally get a adapter kit for around $500.00 to suit your trans........just another option anyway!
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Reply By: Synergist - Thursday, Jan 15, 2004 at 17:24

Thursday, Jan 15, 2004 at 17:24
Ok, i didn't know that you needed a conversion kit for the gear box, but that doesn't sound to bad. So what sort of 5L are you talking about? Is it possible to do it with a 351 clev out of an old Ford?
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Follow Up By: LBJ - Thursday, Jan 15, 2004 at 17:46

Thursday, Jan 15, 2004 at 17:46
just a holden 5.0. yes they make adapter kits for most of the holden, ford and chevy small blocks. i think they still do them for big blocks aswell but they are specially ordered...
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Follow Up By: Synergist - Thursday, Jan 15, 2004 at 17:54

Thursday, Jan 15, 2004 at 17:54
Cheers LBJ!
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Reply By: Member - Glenn(VIC) - Thursday, Jan 15, 2004 at 17:27

Thursday, Jan 15, 2004 at 17:27
Hi Synergist,

The 3F is a thirsty buggerJust Do It!

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Follow Up By: Synergist - Thursday, Jan 15, 2004 at 17:38

Thursday, Jan 15, 2004 at 17:38
Hi Glenn,

WHAT? Even thirstier than the 2F?
Better Buy some jerry cans!
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Thursday, Jan 15, 2004 at 18:50

Thursday, Jan 15, 2004 at 18:50
Gday
3f's are cheap and not too bad, seeing asthough it will bolt straight in.
There is a bell to suit a ford v8 on ebay at the moment...unless the 55 is spotless rust wise, i would put a 3f out of an 80 series in there....they tipically go for 500 bucks. Have seen hemi 265 aswell as 4.1 ford motors in there aswell as all v8's, but you always end up paying twice what you thought it would cost to convert, another option is a pre converted padock basher, possibly with auto or 5 speed already in there, for 1500....see them on ebay fairly regularly aswell.
Andrew wheredayathinkwer mike?
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Follow Up By: Synergist - Thursday, Jan 15, 2004 at 19:40

Thursday, Jan 15, 2004 at 19:40
Yeah the fj55 is spotless inside and out, it was once owned by a Toyota nut, and he relined the whole interior top to bottom, the body is as straight as they come( no dents and a patch of rust the size of a thumb nail). I picked it up for $1600! This is why i wouldn't mind putting in the 3F (little more power) and some power steering. Hopefully after those two little mod's it will be alot better and it wouldn't of cost me a hell of a lot in total (vehical/3F/power steering).
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Reply By: Willem - Thursday, Jan 15, 2004 at 22:29

Thursday, Jan 15, 2004 at 22:29
So you will spend another $2 to $3 grand on the old car just to make it less thirstier. What sort of fuel saving do you think you will get? Maybe one or two kilometres per litre. Stick a V8 in it and you will need to change the radiator and maybe the diffs, who knows. In most states the Transport Department will give you a hard time to get compliance and you will need an engineers certificate. Go diesel? Yes maybe but a I think a diesel engine (2H) will be a lot heavier and then you will have suspension problems. Unless you are really into building a hybrid vehicle and have plenty of money and patience then you should have the experience. Personally I would not bother with conversions. They never work properly as the original vehicle was not designed by the manufacturers to be converted. Stick with what you have and then when you are ready buy the next vehicle with all the features you want as standard items. My opinion!

Cheers,

Willem

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Follow Up By: Nav 80 - Friday, Jan 16, 2004 at 20:07

Friday, Jan 16, 2004 at 20:07
Ditto to Willem,,I aggree 100% Engine transplants are expensive,there are allways problems with gearing etc and you always end up loosing money when you sell. Vehicle manufactures spend millions $$ on R&D to get the best all round combination. If you want something different buy it factory made.
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Reply By: Justin - Friday, Jan 16, 2004 at 13:50

Friday, Jan 16, 2004 at 13:50
If you want better economy maybe you should look at putting a 5 speed in place of the four speed rather than change the motor. If you're going to be towing the 2f will be less thirsty than the 3f. You really need to rev the ring out of a 3f to get any power. Diesel maybe an option (6.5Litre??) but if you're going for economy a V8 isn't going to help you. In my opinion conversion are dangerously expensive things. Yeah motor - $700.00 adapter $500.00. associated mounts radiators engineers cert. insurance. potential reliability issues clutches. I've seen a $2,000.00 conversion balloon out to $10,000 real fast. That was a 253 into a hilux. Maybe look at putting something more modern in when (if) the old 2F dies. Maybe a ford V6. Something with efi to et performance and economy. No point putting in a thirsty 8 cylinder in place of a thirsty 6 cylinder for no real reason.
Cheers,
Justin
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Follow Up By: Synergist - Friday, Jan 16, 2004 at 14:32

Friday, Jan 16, 2004 at 14:32
Thanks Justin,

My old man thinks the 5 speed is also the way to go!
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