Australian compliance
Submitted: Tuesday, Oct 23, 2012 at 15:48
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SDG
Been looking around for a while now, for a caravan, motor, camper, etc.
I have seen a fair few in other states apart from NSW, that have been imported from the States. Different makes, different models. All are registered in that state, all come with Australian compliant certs, gas certs etc.
All had doors on the right hand side(road)
I always thought doors on vans, motorhomes, etc were suppose to have doors on the left side(gutter)
Or is this just NSW being strict.
Reply By: Racey - Tuesday, Oct 23, 2012 at 15:53
Tuesday, Oct 23, 2012 at 15:53
All vans and motor homes in Australia MUST have a door or doors on the gutter side. If you look as the imports they often have both.
Cheers
Racey
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Follow Up By: A J - Wednesday, Oct 24, 2012 at 08:51
Wednesday, Oct 24, 2012 at 08:51
Racey - how about those small vans with doors in the rear?
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Thursday, Oct 25, 2012 at 01:02
Thursday, Oct 25, 2012 at 01:02
The following is a copy and paste from VSB-01
"22 GENERAL CARAVANS REQUIRMENTS
"22.1 Doors
"A caravan or trailer equipped with cooking facilities or living or sleeping accommodation must have only outward opening or sliding doors. At least one such door must be located on the left-hand side or at the rear.
You are seeing vans imported to Oz with RH doors and a not so regular door added by the importer. These do not really comply but this is the problem with self certification by the importers.
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Reply By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Tuesday, Oct 23, 2012 at 16:35
Tuesday, Oct 23, 2012 at 16:35
It is not illegal to have a door on the right side but it must not be the only door in that case.
If there is only one door then it must be on the left side.
A left side door is often fitted in the bedroom of some of these motorhomes etc but then there is an ADR requirement which concerns the "circles of access".
This is concerning the amount of space that is available starting at floor level and working its way up toward the top of the doorway getting larger diameters as it goes up. It starts smaller at foot level and larger at knee level and much larger again at hip level and so on.
This is to ensure there is enough space in the event of an emergency for passengers to evacuate out through the said left hand doorway without becoming wedged in the process.
I have seen cases where the left door is a "Paper" door and when you open it up it is in the back of a cupboard or the inside of the wall. Highly illegal. Someone id leaving themselves wide open for prosecution in the event of an accident.
I have even seen one door which was riveted shut. How they get away with it baffles me.
Cheers, Bruce.
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Follow Up By: Member - MUZBRY(Vic) - Wednesday, Oct 24, 2012 at 08:05
Wednesday, Oct 24, 2012 at 08:05
Gday Bruce
If that is an American import, shouldn't it have French doors?
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Wednesday, Oct 24, 2012 at 20:20
Wednesday, Oct 24, 2012 at 20:20
Sorry Muz, it is a bit obscure for me.
Bruce.
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Follow Up By: Member - MUZBRY(Vic) - Thursday, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:08
Thursday, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:08
Gday Bruce
That's ok, the people at home don't understand me either..But if you google french doors you will see that they are twice as big as an ordinary door...
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Thursday, Oct 25, 2012 at 14:11
Thursday, Oct 25, 2012 at 14:11
Hi Muz,
I know what a French door is mate just couldn't see what the relevance was in this situation.
Mind you given the tiny size of some of the doors I have seen which pose as emergency exits they should be made to fit French doors just as punishment. LOL
Cheers Muz.
Bruce
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Reply By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Tuesday, Oct 23, 2012 at 17:06
Tuesday, Oct 23, 2012 at 17:06
SDG,
The brother bought an American Motorhome and imported it into Australia.
We have been carrying out the conversion from left hand drive to right hand drive and have very nearly completed it. First trip to the engineer is only weeks away.
This is a very complex and time consuming thing to do. It requires all sorts of skills from carpentry to welding skills not to mention many other engineering skills. All of which the brother and I are more than capable of as we have a full engineering workshop with lathe and hoists and welders etc. etc..
The brother said, and I agree with him, that he would not do it again.
Mainly because this was a first off or one off and encompassed many blind alleys.
He originally wanted to get a Japanese import Hino bus with low Ks on it which had a problem with rear overhang. Easily fixed by giving it to an engineering firm in
Brisbane who cut the thing in two and lengthen it by four feet to make it comply with NSW regs.
This would have been the best option and the least time consuming as all it would have needed then was a fitout.
I would recommend you steer clear of any import that needs compliance work as you may be biting off far more than you can chew.
Get one that has already been done if that is what you want but ensure that it has all its compliance work done and ensure that the access door is also compliant. Have it inspected by a suitably qualified engineer before parting with any money. It may save you many thousands of dollars.
Cheers, bruce.
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Reply By: Candace S. - Wednesday, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:23
Wednesday, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:23
In no way am I criticizing anyone, I'm genuinely curious: why go to all the trouble of importing a motorhome or caravan from the US??
Recently there was another thread here, started by someone who was importing a caravan from the US. Numerous replies detailed the extensive modifications it would require. A lot of work, and a lot of expense! And this thread indicates the same thing. So why import rather than buy something made in Oz (or made to Oz specs)?
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Wednesday, Oct 24, 2012 at 20:43
Wednesday, Oct 24, 2012 at 20:43
Hi Candace,
I think there was a point in time where the brother would have agreed with you.
But as it will finish up being at least half the price of the units you mentioned, there is your answer.
There are better alternatives to American motorhomes in our opinion but these alternatives still consume time and money but will still come out much cheaper than off the shelf Australian units.
Cheers, Bruce.
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Follow Up By: Candace S. - Thursday, Oct 25, 2012 at 05:21
Thursday, Oct 25, 2012 at 05:21
Wow, the caravans, etc. in Oz are that much more expensive? Thanks for the answer.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Friday, Oct 26, 2012 at 08:09
Friday, Oct 26, 2012 at 08:09
Hi Candace,
Further to the price of things in Australia compared to the US, I needed a starter motor for my Briggs and Stratton ride on mower.
Enquired locally and the guy said “Yep I can get you one in and that will cost 800 AU$.
You could have knocked me down with a feather. I can buy a complete motor for that!
Got onto a site in America and guess what, 120 US$, the only thing was there was a further $140 in freight.
Very happy to pay it I can assure you as you can
well imagine.
Local suppliers here in Aus. are cutting their own throats with this kind of domestic pricing. They are still living in the 50 cent dollar days and not passing on any benefits due to the better exchange rates.
Too greedy for their own good.
With the advent of the internet we can now do direct price comparisons and that alone is changing the game.
Cheers, Bruce.
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Follow Up By: Ozhumvee - Monday, Oct 29, 2012 at 12:04
Monday, Oct 29, 2012 at 12:04
Had a similar things with a zero turn mower, the operator wrecked the 18hp Kohler engine, price in Oz $3k for a new one, price in US $650 and $200 freight, no brainer!
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Follow Up By: Candace S. - Monday, Oct 29, 2012 at 17:27
Monday, Oct 29, 2012 at 17:27
Good heavens!! Unless I'm missing something, the "middlemen" there are making some obscene profits!
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