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has anyone hardwired one of these so you dont need any battery and how did they do it.ie what volts are they and how to reduce 12v to suit, cheers
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Reply By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Friday, Oct 26, 2012 at 08:15

Friday, Oct 26, 2012 at 08:15
Hi Kharn,

Please pardon my ignorance but are you talking about a spot light.???
A little more information is in order I think.

Is it portable?, is it fixed? perhaps a brand might help.
As I said, please pardon my ignorance.

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Follow Up By: Member - Rod N (QLD) - Friday, Oct 26, 2012 at 08:19

Friday, Oct 26, 2012 at 08:19
The device Kharn is referring to is a Spot Connect GPS tracker. It is normally powered by batteries. They are sold on this site.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Friday, Oct 26, 2012 at 08:26

Friday, Oct 26, 2012 at 08:26
Thanks Rod, obviously I need to get out more. LOL

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Follow Up By: Skippype - Friday, Oct 26, 2012 at 09:47

Friday, Oct 26, 2012 at 09:47
Bruce C
I would have asked the same thing.
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Follow Up By: Member - Berylvt - Friday, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:49

Friday, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:49
The company instructions say you must use lithium non-rechargeable batteries, NOT rechargeable. I tried the rechargable batteries but the device did not work. Rechargables a have a lower voltage and a very low resistance. The non-rechargeables have a higher resistance so lose some voltage in the battery.

Rechargeables are 1.25v each and non-rechargeables are 1.5v each.

I hope that helps. If you find a solution please let us know. The batteries are the biggest problem with the Spot devices I think. Otherwise they are brilliant.
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Follow Up By: aboutfivebucks (Pilbara) - Saturday, Oct 27, 2012 at 00:04

Saturday, Oct 27, 2012 at 00:04
I've also used normal alkaline batteries in mine - they only lasted a couple of hours instead of 5 days.



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Reply By: Tim - Friday, Oct 26, 2012 at 17:36

Friday, Oct 26, 2012 at 17:36
Are you concerned about battery life or have you had bad experiences with the longevity of your batteries?

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Follow Up By: kharn - Friday, Oct 26, 2012 at 19:22

Friday, Oct 26, 2012 at 19:22
i was told battery life is 5days seems like it would be better to hard wire it and thats that.dealer in perth said he had never heard of anyone doing it.i was sure sombody must have sorted it out
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Follow Up By: Tim - Friday, Oct 26, 2012 at 23:29

Friday, Oct 26, 2012 at 23:29
Yeah on the tracking mode your about right and if you have heavy cloud or if you are under a forest canopy that will decrease even more. Just on "check ins" I have read that you will get up to 700 per set. I run a spot device hiring company and we have have ran them up to around 200 check ins with no dramas but we don't do the tracking function on the hire units.

You may void warranties and the like in the process but if you are happy to use it just as a "tracker" and to disregard the emergency functions there is no reason why you couldn't get a 12v transformer from Jaycar and run the power through that?
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Follow Up By: Member - Berylvt - Saturday, Oct 27, 2012 at 08:45

Saturday, Oct 27, 2012 at 08:45
Why would we need to "disregard the emergency functions" if it was hard wired?
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Follow Up By: Tim - Saturday, Oct 27, 2012 at 13:26

Saturday, Oct 27, 2012 at 13:26
A Spot is, what I would consider to be on the same page as en EPIRB. It's small, portable and can be used with minimal input (in comparison to say a HF or satphone) if you happen to be semi conscious or suffering serious injuries.

The benefit these devices have as emergency devices is that they are portable. Now when it comes to hard wiring them, the better the hard wiring job, the more difficult it is to get out of the vehicle.

Now if we look more closely at the device, to hard wire one, we have 2 options.

Firstly we can solder on to the battery connections or make up "dummy batteries" and have the power running in through them still utilising the battery connections. Soldering directly onto the existing connections will then have implications with batteries when you do put them in and you won't be able to fit the cover on properly and the batteries can become dislodged or fall out.

The other option is to run the cables into the unit itself. Sounds like a great idea however your water/dust proofing factor goes out the window.

So either option we take, we have reduced the capability of the device. Now let's look at some scenarios.
1. Roll your car
2. Car catches on fire
3. You want to take the device for a bush walk

-First step in every case is to disconnect it from the power supply. Sounds easy until you apply the stress factors in scenario 1 and 2.
-Second step, let's put the batteries in. Again, high pressure, high stress (without taking into account potential injuries) and your cognitive functions diminish. So getting batteries in becomes a mission but that's only if you remembered where you placed them and also to get them out of the car.
-Third step, alright, we remembered the batteries, held ourselves together for long enough to get them in, now lets activate it. Whoops, the water must have got in when I was walking though the creek in scenario 3 and now it doesn't work.......

The biggest down fall with these devices is the batteries. Obviously they are a little different in nature to an EPIRB but the battery life in an epirb is a mind resting factor. By messaing around with the devices weakest point you are playing with fire and it would seriously deplete the confidence I have in them and that is why I would be disregarding the emergency functions if I was to play around with the power supply.
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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Friday, Oct 26, 2012 at 19:59

Friday, Oct 26, 2012 at 19:59
I thought about doing the same with my Spot 2 due to heavy battery consumption and the ridiculously high cost of Lithium Batteries in Australia.
Still haven't gotten around to it and now source batteries out of Hong Kong on EBay for less than a dollar a battery, compared to $4 to $5 pending source here.

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Reply By: PeteS - Saturday, Oct 27, 2012 at 09:24

Saturday, Oct 27, 2012 at 09:24
G'day kharn

I hardwired my Spot when I was using it in the car however I found the battery life good enough that it was not worth worrying about. We have the tracking going and turn ours off at night when traveling after we send an OK message to our children. This gives us well over 6 to 8 weeks use from it, if not more.

From memory I used a piece of dowel to make up 2 dummy batteries. I purchased a small DC/DC regulated converter that used my 12 volt car cigarette lighter similar to this link:> DC Regulated Converter.

The converter I have is actually smaller and the electronics all embedded in the cigarette lighter plug. Ensure the converter is regulated and capacity of at least an amp if not more to cover the surge when Spot transmits. I just cut off the converter plug (ensure you get the polarity correct) and soldered it onto two pieces of metal I attached to the end of each dowel. If you have kids or grandchildren it may pay to put some hot glue over the adjustable voltage setting on the converter so they don't change it from 3 volts and blow up Spot.

I managed to get the wires coming out and the back cover on just enough to hold. When we went walking I would remove the dowel and place in the Lithium's so we then had a portable and waterproof unit again.

Cheers,
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Follow Up By: kharn - Saturday, Oct 27, 2012 at 12:15

Saturday, Oct 27, 2012 at 12:15
thanks peteS i was trying to find out if i hard wired it if there would be any problems.i wonder why they dont put a power plug on the outside for this and that would make it a lot better unit for 24/7 use like i want to do thanks . info cheers
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Follow Up By: PeteS - Saturday, Oct 27, 2012 at 13:30

Saturday, Oct 27, 2012 at 13:30
Think the reason they don't put an external power socket socket on kharn is that it makes it very hard, if not impossible, to make it totally waterproof.

Cheers
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