The Old Chestnut - Canning Stock Route Fuel Consumption

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Canning Stock Route

The Canning Stock Route is a long-distance remote stretch of track through the Gibson and Great Sandy Deserts. No longer in use as a stock route this is now a vehicular track allowing access to the

Canning Stock Route

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The Canning Stock Route is a long-distance remote stretch of track through the Gibson and Great Sandy Deserts. No longer in use as a stock route this is now a vehicular track allowing travel along

Jasper1912

I have been following many threads, old and new, regarding travel on the CSR. We have 4 Toyotas planning the trip from south to north in July 2013 - a 150 Prado, 70 series V8 troopie, 200 series, and 100 series (all TDs). I am particularly interested in fuel consumption for my vehicle, the LC100 4.2TD, as to what fuel I'll use. There seems to be a big variance in what people are reporting. I'm working on 20/100 although on the Simpson last year I actually ran better than that. Any thoughts on fuel usage from Wiluna to Kunawirritji? Didn't want to use the Well 23 fuel drop, particularly with all the talk of fuel theft - it seems worth paying the extra at Kunawirritji to avoid any losses.

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Reply By: Mick O - Saturday, Oct 27, 2012 at 09:34

Saturday, Oct 27, 2012 at 09:34

Jasper,

it's covered pretty well in this previous thread. You'll also find the trek notes provide advice on fuel consumtpion as well.

CSR Fuel Consumption Post

Explroz Canning Trek Notes

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trip would doubtless be attended with much hardship.''
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Reply By: Life Member - Phil B (WA) - Saturday, Oct 27, 2012 at 11:47

Saturday, Oct 27, 2012 at 11:47

Hi Jasper

Mick O post offers good info.

Here's more.
Whilst the Simpson might be sandy and difficult it isn't the CSR. The length of the CSR and the number of days on it create a whole new scenario. How much gear do you take, how much food, water and fuel you carry on board. Then the number of people in the vehicle creates more pressures to work around.

Even the direction of travel makes a difference, N to S is less taxing on your vehicle, the run ups are shorter and therefore overall fuel use is less. Most people travel S to N, the southern dune faces are longer and tend to be more dug up creating a higher fuel use.

You're reluctant to take on fuel at W23, did you know that you can get fuel at Pangurr/Cotton creek further west of W23?

Plan well and take into account any side trips, they quickly add up and mess with your fuel figures.

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Follow Up By: Jasper1912 - Saturday, Oct 27, 2012 at 21:14

Saturday, Oct 27, 2012 at 21:14

Thanks Mick and Phil for your replies - good advice. Had seen both of the threads that Mick refers to. There is a variance in what people report for consumption but I guess that reflects loading, the way individuals drive and any side detours etc. I was particularly interested in Pangurr - right there on the map under our noses! This gives us another option for fueling. Is the supply there reliable? Jeff

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Follow Up By: Lindsaydi - Saturday, Oct 27, 2012 at 23:07

Saturday, Oct 27, 2012 at 23:07

Mate ,I have refeuled at Cotton Creek probaly 6/7 times over the last 7/8 years and never had prob--- just ring them first -- as you shoud do for all fuel stops in a remote area --- give them an idea of your arrival day---- within a few days . The well 23 stop is and has been for quite sme time a non -event. Another thing- in these communities if the fuel or food price is more than elsewhere simply do not go !!!!

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Follow Up By: Mick O - Sunday, Oct 28, 2012 at 00:00

Sunday, Oct 28, 2012 at 00:00

When you ring the community, don't forget to ask them the price of fuel as well. Often Cotton Creek has been $4 per litre although I believe they have dropped it this year to match that of K-Mart (Well 33) and the Capricorn Roadhouse (Well 23).

If using the Capricorn Roadhouse, try and time your arrival to coincide with delivery of the drums. Also ensure you have a decent filter such as a "Mr Funnel". The first thing out of my drum this year was 3 litres of water and sludge. Thankfully the funnel prevented a major disaster.

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Follow Up By: Mark T6 - Sunday, Oct 28, 2012 at 12:29

Sunday, Oct 28, 2012 at 12:29

Cotton Creek does look to be about a 300Km round trip from the CSR so not sure that would be a great option as long as we have enough fuel to get to K-Mart (yes guys I am one of the group, the one with the 150 Prado...and K-Mart is much easier to spell than the real name). By the way this is my first post on Explore Oz so thanks for the resource it's great.

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Reply By: Robin Miller - Sunday, Oct 28, 2012 at 09:19

Sunday, Oct 28, 2012 at 09:19

Canning was fairly mild on fuel use Jasper

Here are a few notes from my petrol 4800 patrol and friends V8 Troppy on our
10 day trip from Wiluna to Halls creek

5/7/10 69lt added from fuel dump @ $2.85lt
7/7/10 84lt at Kunawarri @ $3.20lt
11/7/10 Full @ 1979km distance totalHalls Creek 197lt @$1.539

*** Canning fuel
4800 Patrol = 193+23+84+69= 369lt in 1979km or 18.3lt/100km
Russ's troppy V8 =14.5 lt/100km

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Follow Up By: Jasper1912 - Sunday, Oct 28, 2012 at 10:08

Sunday, Oct 28, 2012 at 10:08

Thanks Robin - very useful figures for planning. Makes my 20/100 estimate look high but I'll stick with it to be sure. I assume you would have been able to get to Kunawirritji without the fuel dump at Well 23. Jeff

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Reply By: Ken Rd - Wednesday, Oct 31, 2012 at 17:31

Wednesday, Oct 31, 2012 at 17:31

We ran it, south to north, in may 2012 with no trailers - both 4.5l V8 diesels - 11 days:

200 series Landcruiser 22l per 100km
76 series Landcruiser 18l per 100km

Prado should do less but suspect that is your range and right in line with your Simpson trip. On the question of a fuel drop or not, our logic was pretty simple:

1] We both had capacity to get thru to Kunawirrtji BUT
2] We chose to have a fuel drop just in case AND
3] We then took on less fuel at K which was more expensive anyway than Capricorn!

If for some reason the fuel was not at the dump, we could still get to K

What we also did was take our own drum pump as the ones by the fuel drop were a bit ordinary

With these engines, at no stage did we use low ratio, tyres low 20's

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Follow Up By: Mark T6 - Thursday, Nov 01, 2012 at 13:51

Thursday, Nov 01, 2012 at 13:51

Great thoughts Rob (thanks for that)....I reckon at worst my Prado would do 15 Litres per 100K (which is what I used over the Simpson in 2011)....I only used 12.3 on the recent Cape York trip but no sand involved. Sadly the new model (the 150) went from a 180 Litre Tank to a 150 Litre tank, so I'll probably take 3 jerries (extra 60) and get it into the main tank as quickly as possible....at worst I shoukd have a range of 1300-1400 Kms, so K-Mart shouldnt be an issue.

We are all diesels, so at worst we can share if needed.

Thanks again

Mark

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