compressor car fridge

Looking to buy a compressor car fridge.
2 people . 12 volt/240. Any brands to go for?.
Also 45 /60 litre?
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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Sunday, Nov 18, 2012 at 19:59

Sunday, Nov 18, 2012 at 19:59
Hi Choc

And now the debate will start.....LOL



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Reply By: Polaris - Sunday, Nov 18, 2012 at 19:59

Sunday, Nov 18, 2012 at 19:59
We have had 2 Engels (good) and an ED70 Evakool (very good) but now have an ARB in our Patrol. Very happy with the ARB performance.

Nobody can recommend a size - you need to work that out for yourself, depending on your fridge / freezer requirements.
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Reply By: Kris and Kev - Sunday, Nov 18, 2012 at 20:02

Sunday, Nov 18, 2012 at 20:02
Oh no, you have asked a dangerous question. You will get heaps of different opinions and then get all confused.
We have a Waeco 50 litre, over 3 years old now and have taken it on heaps of trips, on and off road and it has performed perfectly. While others will criticise Waeco fridges. It lives full time in the back of our cruiser.
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Reply By: Mick O - Sunday, Nov 18, 2012 at 20:18

Sunday, Nov 18, 2012 at 20:18
Not one for doing a search of the forum Choc lol

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Reply By: AlbyNSW - Sunday, Nov 18, 2012 at 22:05

Sunday, Nov 18, 2012 at 22:05
Asking a question like that is like asking what car to buy or where should I live. lol

Brand debate aside
Consider how much room you have available for ideal size and how you plan to access it, as different brands have different lid configurations and some may not suit your layout.
That will short list a few brands by default.

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Reply By: Stewy1 - Monday, Nov 19, 2012 at 08:23

Monday, Nov 19, 2012 at 08:23
Hi Choc

I have owned an Engel 40 litre fridge for 20 years, and it's still going strong. It's been to the Cape, Cameron Corner and many 4x4 trips during that time. I have never had it break down during this time, and I will be taking it around Australia next year.

The size has been OK for us, including 2 kids in the early days. We have bought a basket that fits at the top of the fridge to put butter and other small items in.

Hope this helps in your choice

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Reply By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Monday, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:18

Monday, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:18
Hi Choc,

On size, 45 or 60 litre for two people are good average sizes, we actually get by with 35 litre but it is a bit small. It came with my vehicle but I would go for 45 if replacing it. With a larger fridge consider available room for stowing it including allowing ventilation space around it and also being low enough to access the contents. A larger fridge will also use more battery power.

On brands, Engel have a good reputation for reliability but Waeco and some others have turned in good performances. I think ARB fridges are developing a good reputation. Some people will swear by a particular brand but it usually comes at a price. Consider also service availability in more remote areas. Engel use what they call a "swing motor" and all others use a rotary motor. The Engel "swing" motor is actually a linear oscillating motor and it does develop some degree of humming noise which can be rather noticeable in a camper or caravan environment that have resonant panels and floors. Those that deny this may have some hearing loss, but they would probably deny that also! LOL

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Reply By: member - mazcan - Monday, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:56

Monday, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:56
hi choc
in imho
there's one fridge ENGEL
ive been using engel since 1987 and never had an issue with them they'l run on lower voltage than a waeco when your battery is getting low
where-as the waeco will go into fault mode and start giving fault codes when the battery voltage is droppingand refuse to run
the engel will just solder onwithout doing any damage to it internalswell that been my experience
this problem with waeco has happened to many waeco owners and in fact has been discussed on this site many times
that my two bobs worth
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Reply By: Member -Dodger - Monday, Nov 19, 2012 at 15:16

Monday, Nov 19, 2012 at 15:16
Another vote for Engel.
Had our 40ltr one since 1995 and it still does the job. It is used regularly and lives in the Patrol. We cryovac food place in the Engel at fridge temps. This saves power and the food will last more than 5 weeks, if you have not eaten it by then you have not been hungry.
We also use this fridge as a back up for the caravan 3 way fridge which struggles in temps over 40% C.
It also can be taken inside the house and used as a Xmas fridge for the drinks etc.


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Reply By: Member -Dodger - Monday, Nov 19, 2012 at 15:16

Monday, Nov 19, 2012 at 15:16
Another vote for Engel.
Had our 40ltr one since 1995 and it still does the job. It is used regularly and lives in the Patrol. We cryovac food place in the Engel at fridge temps. This saves power and the food will last more than 5 weeks, if you have not eaten it by then you have not been hungry.
We also use this fridge as a back up for the caravan 3 way fridge which struggles in temps over 40% C.
It also can be taken inside the house and used as a Xmas fridge for the drinks etc.


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Reply By: JohnnyC - Monday, Nov 19, 2012 at 18:40

Monday, Nov 19, 2012 at 18:40
I came accoss an add for www.rv4x4.com.au a couple of days ago, and they have an "OZROVER 50lt which looks to me to be a rebadged WAECO 50, and the price was $569, about half the price of a WAECO, it might be worth a look.
I have had a 50 lt WAECO for years and never had a problem with it, all the problems I have seen with friends fridges have been due to substandard wiring or crook batteries in the vehicle.
If you run decent size cable, at least 10 gauge direct from the battery and keep it as short as you can you won't have any trouble, it will draw up to 10 amps starting up and if the resistance of the wiring is too high the fridge will fault.
I've got an 80watt solar panel and 90 AH battery and that will keep the waeco going indefinately.
I think the WAECO/ENGEL argument is just more of the holden/ford or toyota/nissan situation, just peoples opinions, probably all as good as the other.
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Reply By: Member - bbuzz (NSW) - Tuesday, Nov 20, 2012 at 08:21

Tuesday, Nov 20, 2012 at 08:21
The 3 way fridge/freezer should be on your list.
Works on 12v and 240v and when free camping you only need a gas bottle; not extra batteries or solar panels.
A 4kg bottle will last 2 weeks on $12-$18 of gas.

They are as reliable as any other brand and most towns have a repair outlet.

Mine has been around the Track for 2 years with no probs and that includes the Top End during July to November.

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Reply By: trains - Tuesday, Nov 20, 2012 at 17:39

Tuesday, Nov 20, 2012 at 17:39
Hi Choc,

Honestly, get out with some contents that you would put in your fridge, and then try different fridges and see what you like best re how it packs/ fits etc.
We went out with empty egg cartons, butter containers, water, milk containers etc, you get the idea.
Then see what fits best in your car.

copy and paste from an earlier post.

Ive travelled with a 3 way older chescold 32lt, would set it up on gas overnight, and ran it on 12v with computer fans and good wiring to the fridge, and it would freeze up to 32degish ambient.
Was good, kept things cold, and meat frozen uder the cooler plate.
But you had to work with it, and not fill it with warm stuff, as it just wouldnt cope.
It worked, but you had to be aware of its limitations.

We have used a friends 40lt engel, and liked that, but only used it as a fridge.
Even with the cover on it, its insulation properties were not as good, and it ran quite alot of the time in the warm weather. yes it kept stuff cool, but it worked hard for it.
With the fridge, we used a 32ah thumper battery, which would run it overnight, but that was about it.

Eventually went with an evakool 47Lt fridge freezer, and got a 20lt icecool esky as well.
This runs off a 120ah fullriver battery, with good wiring to the battery in the tray thru a solenoid, you could use a redarc, or whatever you choose to use.

This battery setup was very affordable compared to the thumper batterys, which do not give the same ah, and at over double the cost.
A cheap basic battery box, with a fuse, and outlet for the fridge gave us alot of amp hrs, and all up around 450 inc batt, box, and solenoid/ wiring etc. With this, we have 3-4 days of running it as a freezer fridge.

Using 1.25lt bottles of water frozen in the freezer section, 2 in the bottom of the icecool, one in the freezer section of the evakool, we keep all the vegies, defrosting meat, cold beers from the night before etc in the 20lt icecool esky, and this works excellently, even in 36deg temps, which was the hottest we encountered on our trip. It gives us more usable space, and if we need to get an extra milk, or item, we can fit it in the icecool till there is room in the fridge.

During summer, I put the icecool out in the direct sun, and it had 2x 1.25lts frozen water in it, and after 24hrs, they had only begun to melt around their outside edges. Had the temp probe in them, and air temp was 1deg all day, unless I opened them, which I did every 2hrs as a test. Basically, they worked well, and we found using them as a crisper, area to defrost food, or as an overflow for beer/ sandwiches etc, it worked very well. Infact the defrosting food often took more than a day or 2 to defrost :).

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We chose the Evakool 47lt for its excellent insulation, and I liked the fan cooled compressor/ condensor setup, even if its positioned on the end of the unit proper.
It fitted our vehicle well, and our camping setup.
Adding a icecool or 2 gives you alot more versatility etc that worked well for us.

As it has the evaporator on one end, you can use this to graduate your temps, so you have ice cool beer one end, and dont freeze the lettuce at the other end of the fridge.
Or place frozen meat there, and keep it that way till needed, without freezing other contents.
Have used it as all fridge, fridge freezer, and used the divider so I had a very small fridge using the freezer section on lowest setting, and the fridge side for storage, ie brekky stuff etc.
For us, 2 adults, one small child, the 47 was fine, but it all depends on what food, and how you cater for your trips re size requirements.
As already mentioned, using the fridge as fridge freezer, to freeze 1.25lt bottles to rotate through our 20 icecools worked very well and didnt take up much space, and was versatile as it could be moved about the car if needed around other packed stuff.

After a month on the road, we found it worked really well for us and our setup/ requirements.

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