Looking to buy a new tow vehicle what would you recomend?

Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 21, 2012 at 16:02
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Hi everyone,

We are currently looking at buying either a new or second hand tow vehicle that will pull a bushtraker van. I'm after a make/model of vehicle that is reliable fuel efficient and a turbo diesel. We have some big trips planned for next yr beginning with the Victorian High Country in Feb with friends then it's onto to who knows where. Any help would be appreciated.
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Reply By: Racey - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2012 at 17:14

Wednesday, Nov 21, 2012 at 17:14
The Bushtracker is a big heavy van and I would suggest a Landcruiser 200 series. People do tow them with 100 series; the 200 will do it better. I tow van weight of around 2700kg and return an average of 18l/100k with a 200 series. Of course you can got Chev Suburbans and the Dodge and Ford equivalents, and they are fairly economical towing big vans,

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Follow Up By: Andrea11 - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2012 at 18:52

Wednesday, Nov 21, 2012 at 18:52
Thank you Racey. We were looking at either the Landcruiser 200 or the Patrol 4 litre. That is not bad fuel economy that your getting. Do you have a long range tank in your cruiser?
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Follow Up By: Member - Toyocrusa (NSW) - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2012 at 20:09

Wednesday, Nov 21, 2012 at 20:09
Cruisers come standard with around 150ltr fuel capacity so there is no need for extra unless you want to travel really remote areas. Regards,Bob
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Follow Up By: Member - Wamuranman - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2012 at 22:13

Wednesday, Nov 21, 2012 at 22:13
Hi Andrea,

If you want a turbo diesel the only option that will do it comfortably is the Landcrusier 200 TTD unless you want to go to the next level with Chev Silverado, Dodge Ram or Ford 250 or equivalent.
Our van is about 2750kg and we averaged 19 litres/100km towing with a 200 series over 7,000km trip this year. But when towing I use only S4( 80kph) to make it easier (and cooler) on the transnission and so that the torque converter locks up (i.e never tow in 6th gear).
I read recently on the Bushtracker forum that some now are suggesting to tow only in S4 in the 200 series regardless of speed.
The 200 series is an awesome tow vehicle but has limited cargo space with 8 seats.
You would probably get some good detailed responses if you post your question on the Bushtracker forum as well.
Cheers
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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian, SA - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2012 at 21:02

Wednesday, Nov 21, 2012 at 21:02
More detail on the van will improve the quality of the responses Andrea - particularly the van's ATM (all up, fully loaded weight), plus length.... the LC 200 easily captures a lot of larger van classes, but there are other tow contenders, depending on the intended van specs.
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Follow Up By: bazz - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2012 at 21:24

Wednesday, Nov 21, 2012 at 21:24
what model Patrol are you looking at, my GU 4.2 overheats when pushed hard on hot days towing 2 tons, a not uncommon problem due to water cooling capilaries in block being too small,there are better tow wagons.. cheers barry Gladston
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Reply By: Member - Old Girl - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2012 at 22:08

Wednesday, Nov 21, 2012 at 22:08
We ended up with a 200 for towing our 3t van. Its unreal the difference to a 76 wagon we had, felt like it was floating on bad roads. As with all cars factory suspension isnt good enough for such weights.
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Reply By: mikehzz - Thursday, Nov 22, 2012 at 07:32

Thursday, Nov 22, 2012 at 07:32
Off the top of my head, the Mazda BT50, Ford Ranger, 2012 Holden Colorado, 2011 Jeep Grand and Land Rover Disco 4 are all economical turbo diesels that are rated to tow 3000 plus. Does the fact they haven't been mentioned mean that they would struggle doing what they are advertised as being capable of? I'm interested to know.
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Follow Up By: Mazdave - Thursday, Nov 22, 2012 at 08:38

Thursday, Nov 22, 2012 at 08:38
I have the new model BT50 and wouldnt consider towing a 3 tonne van. It might very well do it, but its probably not ideal. Manufacturers state a towing capacity for their vehicles, saying they can tow up to (in the Mazdas case) 3350kg, however I am not convinced they are guaranteeing you tow this weight day in day out for 1000's of kms as most Heavy caravanners want. They are still a smallish engine 3.2l and will have to work hard to tow a heavy van, somewhere near the speed limit. Proven tugs for the heavier off road vans, high 2 or 3 tonnes are the 200 Series and the F250's with their big V8 turbo diesels and huge torque. I would consider the 4.2 Patrol even less, as it just doesnt have the power.
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Thursday, Nov 22, 2012 at 17:41

Thursday, Nov 22, 2012 at 17:41
New Colarado 1st gear is too high for towing a 4 horse float loaded , Jeep Grand Cherokee turbo diesel auto is the go , can have all the bells and whistles of the Tojo at 2/3rds the price and better fuel economy..
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Reply By: Member - Broodie H3 - Thursday, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:56

Thursday, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:56
Hi Andrea, We have a Nissan Pathfinder ti550, and it is a great tow vehicle, puts out more torque than some other vehicles, it has a v6 deisle engine, and the towing capacity of 3.5 tonnes. On our recent trip to lake Eyre from Perth, towing a 23ft Roadstar Caravan we averaged 13.8l/per hundred K. I have towed my mates three tonne boat with it From Perth to Bunbury, no hassles what so ever, Just another option to consider. Have fun with your new adventures.
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Follow Up By: 2517 - Thursday, Nov 22, 2012 at 20:13

Thursday, Nov 22, 2012 at 20:13
Must have had 100 mph tail wind.
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Reply By: 410 - Thursday, Nov 22, 2012 at 17:17

Thursday, Nov 22, 2012 at 17:17
Hi Andrea
For a van that big as others have suggested the 200 cruiser is the go. We have purchased the new GX 200 cruiser which only has 5 seats thus giving you more cargo space. This is about $10k cheaper than the GXL they have some diff features but same engine, gearbox etc. I don't know where you are but make sure which ever one you go for RING PLENTY OF DEALERS. I also found the new GX cheaper than 2nd hand GXL's.
Regards
Richard
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Reply By: Andrea11 - Thursday, Nov 22, 2012 at 18:45

Thursday, Nov 22, 2012 at 18:45
Thank you everyone. I very much appreciate your views and it would appear that the cruiser 200 is the go given the threads consensus.
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Follow Up By: Bush Wanderer - Friday, Nov 23, 2012 at 00:30

Friday, Nov 23, 2012 at 00:30
This forum is pretty biased. Check out a few caravan forums and forums like bushtracker. Patrols, Discovery 4's and 3's as well as Toyotas are very popular. Modern utes can tow a lot more than the old ones and a quite versatile.
I have been towing a 3 tonne offroad caravan and a 3.5 tonne horse float all over Australia. I was a Toyota man once, but there are so many more comfortable vehicles out there with modern engines that do the job just as easy and with better fuel economy and without the oil consumption issues.
BW.
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Reply By: beefeater - Thursday, Nov 22, 2012 at 21:33

Thursday, Nov 22, 2012 at 21:33
G'devening all,

I agree the 200 series would be most suitable. My retired parentas however have a big, fully optioned Bushtracker caravan which they currently tow with a V6 TD Navara and previously the older STX Navara. They have towed this van for more than 50000kms around the country over the last 6 years with no issues at all. In october they returned from a 18000km trip from Eudunda (mid nth SA) up thru NSW & QLD, followed the gulf from east to west, across to Wyndham and onward thru the iron ore country and goldfields and eventually home ( a lot of zigzagging along the way). Ave 14 - 15 ltr/100 for the trip.

I originally recommended a wagon but dad carries all sorts of stuff he wasn't happy having in the cabin area. Fair enough.

Me and the family recently replaced our 350000kms old GU petrol Patrol with a new BT50. Apart from the offroad camper we often tow our heavy cattle tandem trailer, 2500 - 3000kgs, and the Patrol was great for that although fairly thirsty. The BT50 has only 10000kms on it but so far is every bit the capable tower the GU was. Fuel consumption towing the big trailer about 13-14ltr/100 (compared with the GU 25ltr/100). The BT50 has however 340000kms to really match the GU (the best vehicle we ever owned)

To finish, if I had a choice between our Mazda and my folks flash Navara I'd take the Bt50 every day of the week.

Cheers Nick
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Reply By: Bruce B5 - Friday, Nov 23, 2012 at 20:52

Friday, Nov 23, 2012 at 20:52
Hi Andrea 11 don't forget to take into account the 10 % ball weight which would be about 300k.g maybe on your van ? happy caravaning.
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Reply By: Member - John and Lynne - Tuesday, Nov 27, 2012 at 09:29

Tuesday, Nov 27, 2012 at 09:29
Check the loaded weight of the Bushtracker carefully, not forgetting ball weight. Talking to a few owners lately of Bushtrackers around 19-21 feet and they weighed in at around 3500kgs. If you fill all those water tanks you can carry well over 500kgs of water without the supplies, generator etc you may need. It is a good idea to find the most powerful tow vehicle you can afford. Fuel is really the least of your costs. If you stress a vehicle towing a heavy van for long distances close to the tug's limits you will end up with major costs and possibly breakdowns. John and Lynne
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