Honda E20i Generater

Submitted: Tuesday, Dec 04, 2012 at 11:03
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Recently bought a Honda E20i generator. Have not found it is a E20iK1U.
It was sold as have a 53/54 dBA @ 7meters sound level. als with a 4.4 lt
petrol tank.

The hand book clearly states it is an 89dBA with a tank capacity of 3.4 lt.

I have been unable to get a satifactory explanation from the supplier and simply
refered me to the Honda wesite specification which does not match my owner manual. Any one out there who can clarify the differance. Honda cannot
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Reply By: PeterInSa - Tuesday, Dec 04, 2012 at 11:20

Tuesday, Dec 04, 2012 at 11:20
Hi Eddie
We have a Honda 20i always thought is was a 53/54dba unit, as its not loud and always thought the tank was around 3.5Lts, have not measured the sound with a db meter or really checked out the size of the tank, less so now since we have sola.

To me its a good generator and to me quiter than most.

Peter
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Reply By: Member - Scrubby (VIC) - Tuesday, Dec 04, 2012 at 13:11

Tuesday, Dec 04, 2012 at 13:11
G`Day Eddy,
Did you buy it new from a Honda Dealer ?

I have found that it is very difficult to get information regarding my Honda E10i which has a problem.
Honda Australia will only refer you to a Honda dealer who will only tell you as little as they can.
"Bring it in and we will have a look at it" is the standard answer to any question as to what the problem could be.
Then after that "it will be cheaper to buy a new one than repair it" is the answer.
They are a good Genni until they have a problem.
I am now going to buy a Yamaha as a result of the difficulty accessing info about the Honda eu10i.

Regards,

Scrubby
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Follow Up By: Member - Barry H (WA) - Tuesday, Dec 04, 2012 at 13:22

Tuesday, Dec 04, 2012 at 13:22
Hi Scrubby,

Sorry to hear that you have a problem with your Honda.

I have a Yammy EFS1000, and they are just as hard to get any sort of service out of.

I am on my second one in three years, first one replaced after threatened court action.

Regards

Bayy H
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Follow Up By: olcoolone - Tuesday, Dec 04, 2012 at 13:28

Tuesday, Dec 04, 2012 at 13:28
We have 5 Honda EU20i's with the oldest about 6 years old and used every day, we never had a problem getting information or parts.... we just go through a service dealer.

As for taking it to a dealer, this is standard practice with most equipment because the seller or manufacture has no idea of your skill levels and abilities...... if they gave you information that caused damage or injury they could be liable for it..... I know you wouldn't take legal action against them would you! LOL

It's called protecting their indemnity.

You will find Yamaha will be the same.
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Follow Up By: Member - Scrubby (VIC) - Tuesday, Dec 04, 2012 at 21:01

Tuesday, Dec 04, 2012 at 21:01
Thanks olcoolone,
"we never had a problem getting information or parts.... we just go through a service dealer."
So are you saying that you get the parts from the dealer and repair them yourself or do you have a service dealer do the repairs?

It may be that my local Honda dealer is a bit different to deal with.

Over the years I have had four Yamaha and three Honda items of equipment.
I have never had a problem with any of the Yamaha`s.
I have had two of the Honda`s break down.

Because I now need a new Generator I am going to buy a 2kva Yamaha even though it is about $200 dearer than the Honda 2kva.

Scrubby.

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Follow Up By: Phil 23 - Wednesday, Dec 05, 2012 at 21:10

Wednesday, Dec 05, 2012 at 21:10
Think I managed to find & download a service manual for an E10i a while back. Will have a look about for it.
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Reply By: olcoolone - Tuesday, Dec 04, 2012 at 13:19

Tuesday, Dec 04, 2012 at 13:19
The book is right..... 89db and a "A weighted scale" of 53-59 (dBa)..... just different rating but still the same sound level.

The book states dB and not dBa.

As for fuel it's about 4.1 lts.

Is there a problem with it, you seem a little dissatisfied?
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Follow Up By: TerraFirma - Wednesday, Dec 05, 2012 at 14:55

Wednesday, Dec 05, 2012 at 14:55
Olcoolone is on the money Eddie, simple misunderstanding of the rated levels.
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Reply By: Steve M1 (NSW) - Tuesday, Dec 04, 2012 at 13:55

Tuesday, Dec 04, 2012 at 13:55
could the variation in dB levels be dependent on whether you are operating on enconomy or not? It is definitely quieter on economy than it is with a big load.
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Reply By: The Bantam - Tuesday, Dec 04, 2012 at 16:08

Tuesday, Dec 04, 2012 at 16:08
Ok lets tackle the sound pressure issue first.

For any sound pressure fugure to be of any meaning at all it has to be qualified.

So many db

specify the weighting Usually "A" but may be "C" or some obscure scheme

Slow or fast response should not be an issue for a generator

specify the distance measured at.....any real figures will be at 1 meter, if they are quoting a 7 meter figure this will be to match an american competitor quoting at 20 feet.
each doubling of distance will drop..from memory 6db.

Then you have to specify what the machine is doing when the noise is being measured.
Is it running unloaded, half or fully loaded...and in what mode

In what direction from the machine and where is the machine.....is it in a real situation on a hard surface or suspended 8 feet off the ground in an anechoic test chamber.

Let me tell you my dirty old kwaka powered modra, is a hell of a lot more noisy sitting on concrete than it is on nice thick grass and its much quieter in the direction away from the exhaust

The true honda people will be inclined to measure worst case, but their competitors will definitely measure best case.

There is so many factors and so much hokus pokus with measuring sound pressure.

NOW the fuel tank capacity.......so what is it have you measured it.....and is that the actuall volume of the fuel tank or the amount of fuel the tank hold when filled to the recommended level.........my hilux has an 80 liter tank but biting my fingernails with the low fuel warning light on till I find a filling station the most I have put in is 65 liters.

My honda ride on has a fuel marker quite some distance from the top, I recon I could get at least another half a liter in there if I filled it like most people do, to overflowing.


Honda have a real problem, the japanese engineers and the honda philospohy is to quote very conservative properly measured an qualified specifications, but their competitors, particularly in the US are not so honorable.

I have a fairly new 400cc honda motor on my ride on mower....the manual specs it at 10Hp, the overpriced, over specified competeing US brand quotes their 400cc motor being 13 or 15 HP, depending on the measurement scheme....let me tell you the honda has more balls than the US piece of carp anyday.

So the honda dealers generally refeer to the 400cc motor as a 13Hp motor and that is what is on the invoice.

SO...what does it actually do...tank capacity is easy, I'm probably a long way from you , so my Sound pressure guage is no use.

cheers
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Reply By: Eddy F - Saturday, Dec 08, 2012 at 11:42

Saturday, Dec 08, 2012 at 11:42
Many thanks for all your responses. I am well aware of all the conditions regarding the way you mesures the sound level. I have the advantage of being able to compare mine with another locally owned 3 year old unit.

Running on both Eco and full throttle, mine produces a lot more noise.

After several emails to both the local agent and the Honda Feedback website (local agent never replied) Honda have asked for my hand book part number. I assume to check if this compable with my unit.

If you guys check your hand book spects with the Honda Website spect, they don't match !! Why ?

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