Cutting the top of a gas bottle

Submitted: Wednesday, Dec 05, 2012 at 16:00
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I have a condemned squat 3kg bottle which I want to cut the top off using an angle grinder.I have
A taken the valve out
B Aired for 48hrs
C Filled with water for 48Hrs
D I was thinking of half filling with water again whilst I cut the top off.

Is it now safe to go ahead???
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Reply By: Member - Broodie H3 - Wednesday, Dec 05, 2012 at 16:09

Wednesday, Dec 05, 2012 at 16:09
I have done the same thing that you are proposing, Only I filled it with water while I was doing it and I drilled about a dozen small holes in it while it was full of water Before cutting. that worked for me,always err on the side of caution, and safety.
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Reply By: Member -Dodger - Wednesday, Dec 05, 2012 at 16:35

Wednesday, Dec 05, 2012 at 16:35
I have made many choofers using 9kg bottles and use the same degaussing method as you then I simply let all the water out sit the bottle in direct sunlight for a day then the next day proceed with the cutting.
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Follow Up By: Notso - Wednesday, Dec 05, 2012 at 17:47

Wednesday, Dec 05, 2012 at 17:47
So are they magnetic as well!. :)
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Thursday, Dec 06, 2012 at 14:09

Thursday, Dec 06, 2012 at 14:09
Looks like it Notso, LOL.
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Follow Up By: Member -Dodger - Thursday, Dec 06, 2012 at 14:25

Thursday, Dec 06, 2012 at 14:25
Oops should have been de-gassing. My spell checker took over.
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Reply By: Member - DOZER - Wednesday, Dec 05, 2012 at 17:08

Wednesday, Dec 05, 2012 at 17:08
If the bottle is opened to atmosphere, there will be no more gas inside....cut away.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Thursday, Dec 06, 2012 at 14:00

Thursday, Dec 06, 2012 at 14:00
Hi Dozer,
As LPG is heavier than air there mat be a small amount of gas left in the cylinder.

Fill with water till overflowing to ensure no gas remains. It only requires a small amount of gas mixed with oxygen to create a bomb.

Safety first always.

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Reply By: splits - Wednesday, Dec 05, 2012 at 22:33

Wednesday, Dec 05, 2012 at 22:33
I agree with DOZER. The liquid gas vaporises above about minus 42 degrees C unless under pressure in a sealed tank. It is also heavier than air so after opening the valve and waiting until is stops hissing, remove the valve and turn the bottle upside down. Any remaining gas will fall out.

If you are still not convinced then blow some compressed air through it and start cutting.

Don't worry about the smell, it is not gas. If you cut the bottle in half and just leave it, the smell will still be there weeks later.
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Follow Up By: Member - Broodie H3 - Thursday, Dec 06, 2012 at 11:47

Thursday, Dec 06, 2012 at 11:47
Thanks for the info splits as I did not know that about the smell I have always thought it to be gas residue.Now I am wiser thank you.
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Reply By: Member - Bruce C (NSW) - Thursday, Dec 06, 2012 at 14:06

Thursday, Dec 06, 2012 at 14:06
Hi New Boy,

I have done a couple of theses projects over the years. You are right on target filling it with water.

Proceedure as follows.
1 Remove valve
2 Fill with water
3 wait one hour before draining
4 Drain water and work on cylinder in any way you like.

Use an angle grinder, oxy acetylene or whatever you like.

Understand that there will be a gas smell but this is just the odourous stuff they put in the gas to make its pressence obvious which permeates every thing.

Never had a problem doing it this way.

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Reply By: new boy - Thursday, Dec 06, 2012 at 15:46

Thursday, Dec 06, 2012 at 15:46
Thanks everyone did as proposed and advised all done
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Follow Up By: Mazdave - Thursday, Dec 06, 2012 at 16:02

Thursday, Dec 06, 2012 at 16:02
Might be a dumb question, but what are you going to use the now topless gas bottle for?
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Friday, Dec 07, 2012 at 12:18

Friday, Dec 07, 2012 at 12:18
Google "choofer" and you will see.
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Reply By: Member - Jack - Thursday, Dec 06, 2012 at 20:35

Thursday, Dec 06, 2012 at 20:35
Not wishing to hijack the thread, but is there a trick to removing the valve? I have a gas bottle I'd like to do something with but cannot remove the valve at all.

Thanks.

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Reply By: new boy - Friday, Dec 07, 2012 at 10:15

Friday, Dec 07, 2012 at 10:15
Mazdave
Bit of an experiment but I,m going to use heat beads and use it as a camp oven cooker
for place open fires are banned. BCF have a simalar S/S one for $60

The valve was already out when returned from the dive shop but it was just a screw in item
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Follow Up By: Mazdave - Monday, Dec 10, 2012 at 15:37

Monday, Dec 10, 2012 at 15:37
New boy
Its a great idea, I have one made out of a pressure pump air tank.
but I would have thought a 3kg bottle would be quite small and wouldnt fit even a small camp oven. Most use a 9kg bottle which fits a 12" camp oven

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Follow Up By: new boy - Monday, Dec 10, 2012 at 18:25

Monday, Dec 10, 2012 at 18:25
Hi Mazdave
The 3 kg is the squat one so quite wide in the middle but we only have a small oven and it fits almost to the bottom where I have cut.
I,m thinking of putting a couple of rods through the bottle so the oven sits on them but have to work out how close to the heat beads which will happen this week.Cut exactly in half I reckon you would still be able to use a 12in oven .
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