Dead Landcruiser

Thanks KSV.

I just went out and had a look at it again under torchlight and it seems that the key position is halfway between LOCK and ACC. So I guess my daughter may have forced it to pull the key out.

Is a new lock set cheaper than a new daughter?

"Is a new lock set cheaper than a new daughter?" LOL

Think this way - if you have new daughter, older one will not go anywhere and as result you will have two - ultimately increasing chances of having your key jammed in lock :-)

Of course its cheaper than a new daughter and when your lock set reads this youll only get one barrel, not BOTH barrels like when your WIFE reads this lol

I agree with u ross my wife had the same trouble with our 100 series
had to shake the shi#### out of the steering wheel to release it

When I have to park the car is a "suspicious" area I put the steering lock under pressure buy turning the wheels after the motor has stopped and then removing the key and let the steering go back on the pin. When we return to the car we are both aware that we need to "take the pressure off" before putting the key back in the ignition.

This may be an old wives tale from years ago but we "feel" better doing it.

Comments anyone??? Are we doing the wrong thing???

Phil

PJR
The only advantage I can think of is,
when someone DOES break into your car and DOES try to forcibly turn the key barrel with a driver of some kind, the key barrel drive to the lock pawl might break off, because of that pressure, and that may stop them from unlocking the steering mechanism.

You could try it an see if it successful but will be a mighty expensive repair just to prove an idea.
Leaving a vehicle with the steering lock pawl heavily loaded to hold the " torsional twist back" doesn't do anything as far as I can see. It is possible my eyesight is failing though.

Many people when turning off their engine DO NOT release the steering wheel so there is no torsional loading happening on the lock mechanism.
They switch off with when holding the wheel and this creates the difficulty to turn the key back on because of that pressure.
If you ever get to see the small amount of metal which actually unlocks the steering mechanism, so it can be driven, you won't continue to cause it anymore wear and stress and you will always free any shaft pawl lock pressure before you try and turn the key.
Think of it as a $$$$$$$$$$$ saving attitude.

The key should never experience any torsional turning resistance, it isn't designed to move the steering mechanism just to turn on the ignition. If you ever hear any crunch/bang as the key releases the lock pawl then it is being worked to the max. You break quickly when worked to the max also.

Why do some never give trouble and others after just a few years of use, stuff up/break/seize up ??? The awareness of the operator has a lot to do with vehicle component longevity.

If you hold the steering wheel against the lock pawl and forcibly turn the key you can break a brand new vehicle ignition key system before it is ever driven.

Ross M

Hi Ross

I was interested in the bit about "Leaving a vehicle with the steering lock pawl heavily loaded to hold the "torsional twist back" doesn't do anything as far as I can see". Thanks. And I know that I would be stupid to "have a go and see what happens".

It was done just to make it harder to steal. It may have an immobiliser but you never know. And it can be a long walk home if it goes walkabout.

Phil

PJR
If the thief is going to steal the vehicle the steering lock system won't stop them. Smash the plastic and hit the steering lock with a large mash hammer and it is as some of the locals say, "it is no more there". About 15 seconds to remove and steerable after entry
.
Then you can do what you want to do with the vehicle. Tow it away, load onto tilt tray etc.
If interested in theft prevention I would fit a fuel pump circuit cutoff.
or
Starter circuit isolator
or
a crank angle sensor "wire break" feature ie switch
or all of the above.

Nothing is totally effective. Just deterrents.

Thats what I like about some people. They never read and understand what was said. I said "This may be an old wives tale from years ago but we "feel" better doing it". Now you come along and totally rip the rug out from under me. And then get a list of what to do thats just plain old commons sense.

Naturally nothing is totally secure.

Thanks Ross.

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Please remove my post. I know he was on the wrong wave length and trying to help.

Phil

Thanks Ross

I am fully aware of the above. The car has a factory installed immobiliser and security circuit. It wont go without the attachment on my keyring.

This was just supposed to be a "feel" good addition. Thats all. Like leaving the transfer case in neutral. That can stump them long enough to rip their head off through the open door or even smashed drivers window.

Phil

As do we thats why we share our foruns and misfortunes, Looks like youll be able to keep the old daughter

$265 is a good result with no disassembly or replacement of parts inside the steering lock system.
Train all users, only gentle people to operate key. And think and check before forcefull panic.

I agree with you Shaker.
The key hole is designed for a key and not as an anchor point.