Semi flexible solar panels

Submitted: Saturday, Dec 22, 2012 at 20:31
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Has anyone tried these type of panels?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/110969290398?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_2750wt_882

I like the idea of how they are low profile and lightweight for semi permanent roof mounting on top of gullwing canopy.
Do you think they would be as efficient as conventional panels and if they were mounted direct to the roof of an Aluminium body would they be heat affected. I appreciate that in doing so it will not always be in the optimum position but it is really just a supplementary power supply
I would appreciate any feedback or better recommendations

Cheers Alby
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Reply By: Member - Frank P (NSW) - Sunday, Dec 23, 2012 at 11:05

Sunday, Dec 23, 2012 at 11:05
G'day Alby,

A mate of mine has fitted them to the roof of his Kimberley Karavan and is happy with them.

AFAIK their performance specs are similar to conventional glass-enclosed panels. The big plus with this outfit is they will make panels to custom dimensions so you can get them made to fit just about anywhere.

You raise an interesting issue about heat. This is of interest to me too as I am about to do what my friend has done, but I will be mounting them on white fibreglass. With no ventilation to the rear of the panels I'm also wondering how much heat will affect them.

The aluminium to which you are going to mount your panels will get hot in the sun, hotter than my fibreglass, but being reflective, may not get as hot as the black panels, so some of the panel heat may get drawn away from the panels by the ali roof. Or may not - I'm guessing a bit here. My fibreglass roof will not draw much heat away at all.

I've decided not to worry about it. I need the panels, I need them flat on the roof so that's where they're going and I'll just accept whatever output they give me. Like yours, they will just be supplementary.

For info, another mate of mine, an engineer, has water-cooled the rooftop solar panels on his house. His system is computer-monitored and controlled. He gets at least a 20% improvement with the water on.

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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Sunday, Dec 23, 2012 at 13:12

Sunday, Dec 23, 2012 at 13:12
Thanks for the reply, I am getting a mental image of a rotating garden sprinkler and pump on the roof of my canopy LOL

These panels are about 10kg lighter than conventional panels and appear to be more robust as well. If they are not suitable to stay on the roof at least they would be easily stowed in the canopy and laid out on the ground when needed. I am hoping for some positive feedback from someone with more experience than me and if all good I will give one a go.
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Reply By: Member - John and Val - Sunday, Dec 23, 2012 at 14:01

Sunday, Dec 23, 2012 at 14:01
Hi Alby,

The semiflexible panels are reckoned to be about 20% less efficient than the glass mounted ones. Their advantages may well outweigh this though depending on your setup.

Temperature does reduce efficiency significantly and rigid panels are best mounted so that air flow can cool the back of the panel. In the heat of mid summer I would expect to lose another 10-15% if these flexible ones were mounted directly on an aluminium substrate exposed to the sun.

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John
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Monday, Dec 24, 2012 at 05:27

Monday, Dec 24, 2012 at 05:27
Thanks for the info John, with that in mind I still think they will suit me best. Will look at getting the biggest size I can fit to offset some of the deficiencies
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Monday, Dec 24, 2012 at 05:49

Monday, Dec 24, 2012 at 05:49
Thanks for the info John, with that in mind I still think they will suit me best. Will look at getting the biggest size I can fit to offset some of the deficiencies
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Follow Up By: pepper2 - Monday, Dec 24, 2012 at 09:42

Monday, Dec 24, 2012 at 09:42
the controller in the advert does not appear to be a MPPT type,if not you could upgrade it to a MPPT type controller,i believe these units will provide increased output of approximately 10-40% over other types also you may get additional small increases by locating the controller close to the battery rather than close to the panel.
Also by mounting the panel horizontally the panel should operate at approx 80% efficiency so in the real world should be fine in your application.
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Tuesday, Dec 25, 2012 at 05:19

Tuesday, Dec 25, 2012 at 05:19
Thanks for that, I have a Cteck 250s DC-DC charger and as I understand it I can wire direct to it

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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val - Tuesday, Dec 25, 2012 at 08:33

Tuesday, Dec 25, 2012 at 08:33
Yes Alby. The 250s includes an MPPT solar controller, as well as a good sized dc-dc charger and the necessary switching to connect the charger to the vehicle system. A good comprehensive package.

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