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i have an old slr camera,maybe 30 yrs old,its a minolta x-7,can i use a digital body to go with the old zoom or telescopic lenses?if so which body do i need to buy?thanks for future answers barry
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Reply By: get outmore - Sunday, Dec 23, 2012 at 16:21

Sunday, Dec 23, 2012 at 16:21
I think sony? MIGHT

but unless they are some kind of super duper lenses Id go with new lenses
with auto focus, ant shake etc so wouldnt base my camera choice around just ordinary old lenses
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Follow Up By: Member - Bruce and Di T (SA) - Sunday, Dec 23, 2012 at 16:42

Sunday, Dec 23, 2012 at 16:42
Barry,

I had a Canon EOS SLR film with telephoto lens etc. When I upgraded to a digital SLR I went with a Canon as I knew the lenses would fit. In fact I took the lenses with me to the camera shop and ensured they would be fine.

I haven't had any problems with them. I didn't want to fork out the huge money for a telephoto lens such as I had if I could avoid it.

So my suggestion is to take the lenses with you to a reputable camera shop where the people are knowledgeable and ask them.

Di
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Follow Up By: member - mazcan - Sunday, Dec 23, 2012 at 19:16

Sunday, Dec 23, 2012 at 19:16
hi all
this is interesting as i have a canon AE1 model that i bought in 1980 with several lenses and was top of the canon range at the time and it pre-dates the eos range but was told the lenses wont sync with the new ones despite them looking exactly the same technically
by two middle age salesman at different shops and areas
but a younger guy at a camera shop in fremantle said that he was confident they would sync so after reading this thread my hopes are renewed and will be a subject of my furthering the investigation by actually trying them
salesman wont tell you if they can fool one into buying hundreds of $s worth of all new lenses etccan anyone throw any techo imfo on this one
cheers and have a great xmas
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Follow Up By: HGMonaro - Monday, Dec 24, 2012 at 08:15

Monday, Dec 24, 2012 at 08:15
mazcan, an AE1 used 'FD' lenses but newer Canons use 'EF' lenses (and there are different sorts of EF lenses that won't fit all cameras.. but I'm not a Canon person so don't know the finer details). Canon did this to make their mount better for the AF requirements of the day. Your AE1 lenses won't fit a digital Canon.
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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Sunday, Dec 23, 2012 at 17:17

Sunday, Dec 23, 2012 at 17:17
Hi Barry

A number of years ago well before Sony introduced their DSLR Camera range, they invested lots of money within Konica - Minolta to produce a new joint camera for the retail market.

The down side of the market was that Konica-Minolta went broke and Sony acquired all their knowledge from the now defunct company, which in turn they used to produce their new to the market cameras.

I have been told by our Sony Rep, that the old Minolta SLR camera lenses will fit the new Sony DSLR Camera range. Weather this is correct or not I would still try your old lenses on a Sony body.

I know that old Pentax SLR lenses fit the new Pentaxt DSLR range of cameras. The only time that one of our customers had any issues with old Pentax lenses, was on a 30 + year old lens that did not have auto focus, but it was as simple as flicking the switch from auto to manual focus and all was fine.

Another factor is that there has been a quantum leap in lens quality and features in that time within the photographic industry and in most cases, you will get better quality lenses included with a camera package and even cheaper than buying a body only camera.

Happy camera hunting, as there are many top quality cameras on the market, all with different features and aimed at very type of camera market, weather it is the first time user and those that are upgrading to a better camera.


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Reply By: Member - Rod D (VIC) - Sunday, Dec 23, 2012 at 17:41

Sunday, Dec 23, 2012 at 17:41
It appears your camera uses a MD mount, after a quick look with Google there are adapters to fit your lenses to other cameras.
I dont know how well these work.
Like others have said I would check with a camera shop first.
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Reply By: laurie b1 - Sunday, Dec 23, 2012 at 21:25

Sunday, Dec 23, 2012 at 21:25
My son ha the latest sony NEX-7 and he uses all my old Minolta lenses,(macro,standard 50mm 1.4 and telephoto. All work fine.
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Follow Up By: laurie b1 - Sunday, Dec 23, 2012 at 21:38

Sunday, Dec 23, 2012 at 21:38
Sorry i do need to mention you will need to buy the Minollta adaptor to do this, he also has a Nikon adaptor and we used my 600mm nikon lens on it and it worked very well.
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Reply By: Sinkas - Sunday, Dec 23, 2012 at 21:58

Sunday, Dec 23, 2012 at 21:58
Hi Barry,

The micro four thirds system cameras by Panasonic or Olympus can be used with almost all lenses using adaptors. It is preferable to have aperture rings on the lenses, which yours will. Many of these old lenses give great results, however the focal length will be double and will be manual focus. If you choose an Olympus camera, such as the fantastic OMD EM5, you will also have in body stabilisation.
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Reply By: Member - Mark (Tamworth NSW) - Sunday, Dec 23, 2012 at 23:29

Sunday, Dec 23, 2012 at 23:29
Barry

I had a Minolta X7, I bought mine the week before Xmas in 1982, so yes it would be 30 years old. It and the Canon AE1 were the first "Program" cameras. It was a sad day when I was told "wasn't worth fixing" !
The lenses will not be autofocus, so you will need to focus manually.
Yes they were MD mounting, but sorry I can't tell you if you can use the lenses on new cameras.

I wouldn't worry about new lens developments too much if you are on a budget. Perhaps buy one lens to go with the new DSLR, then use other old lenses to compliment your "main one". You can always buy a new telephoto lens afterwards.
After having done a Photography course earlier this year, I was amazed how much the teacher kept telling us to "do things manually" as it offered you more control.

Good photography we were told was more about composition and lighting, than anything else, the main thing is to be actually doing it.
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Reply By: Member - Michael P (QLD) - Sunday, Dec 23, 2012 at 23:40

Sunday, Dec 23, 2012 at 23:40
Barry Hi,

Great post, Thanks.

Mike.
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Reply By: Herbal - Monday, Dec 24, 2012 at 13:11

Monday, Dec 24, 2012 at 13:11
My thoughts if they are of any help... Your lens will work with a digital camera. A lens is a lens. As others have said, you might have to buy (or have made) an adapter.

Are you asking this to save money or is the lens of such high quality that you want to keep it? This is an important question to ask yourself.

If it is to save money...you probably wont. Digital packages (camera and lens) these days are so cheap. If you had a buget of say $1,000, you would get a very high quality package. Take a look around at what $500 buys these days - you will be amazed. An adapter alone could cost hundreds and if you had to have one made, you wont get change out of $1,000.

If its because the lens is of very good quality and you are looking for high quality image results. Then you might want to consider replacing the old body with a newer film body. Have a look online, maybe eBay for a body.

Last question to ask is what do you want the camera to do? If you need high quality images for say publishing or posters etc. Then stick with your film body. Sure there is more cost but at the end of the day, there is no such thing as a digital camera with film quality. To give you an idea a 6x4 image from a 35mm film would take up about 64TB of hard drive space with original quality, if it were digital. A digital image of the same size from a high end digital camera would only use a few MB...millions of times smaller. And smaller means less info.

If you are after images of landscapes, portraits, snaps of your trip to post on the web or email to family etc, etc. Then digital is great.

I hope that is of help. Oh one last thing since you specifically say you want zoom. If you do decide to go digital, the MOST important thing to look for is zoom. You want optical zoom!! Digital zoom works by spreading less pixels over a larger area. It does this by trimming off the edges then expanding the center out to the edges. Optical zoom uses the lens so that all the info is still there.

Have a great Christmas.
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Follow Up By: KSV - Saturday, Jan 05, 2013 at 20:23

Saturday, Jan 05, 2013 at 20:23
"there is no such thing as a digital camera with film quality."

Maaaate,

I am die hard film fan. Really die hard - I have in my possession 8 (eight) film bodies. Another 7 was sold few years ago. Also I have dark room (sharing with my companion) where I print from film. Also I have descent scanner. My thoughts? 35mm film been done by FF digital quite a while ago. You still can do B&W (and I love to do it!) but it is only for those special look. Medium format (6x6 and more) still holds it place, but you have to be very pedantic, do everything very carefully and use very good equipment to overcame digital. And there are MF digital cameras on the market, though bloody expensive. It only worth for nostalgia.

Your statement about 64TB is utter crap and bluff - yes you may scan even more, but it will not do anything except of blow your scan. And BTW what is "6x4 image from a 35mm film"? From 6x9 negative anything bigger then 50MB is waste of time and energy. Even good film/scanner combination will not resolve beyond about 64MP and in real life no-one ever need it - for excellent A3+ print 12MP are plenty.
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Follow Up By: Herbal - Saturday, Jan 05, 2013 at 21:15

Saturday, Jan 05, 2013 at 21:15
Troll...

You need a new hobby...Being a Troll does not suit you !
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Follow Up By: KSV - Saturday, Jan 05, 2013 at 21:40

Saturday, Jan 05, 2013 at 21:40
Hey you herbal anti-troll, would you like me to make a photo of all my gear? Or you can look here: http://qsign.com.au/nt - from my last trip to NT. I am sick of some mind-restricted individuals on this site. If you saying something about 64 TERABYTES you NEVER scanned anything in your life. You never print anything except of may be 10x15 from Harvey Norman. You know nothing, NOTHING in photography when you say "MOST important thing to look for is zoom". Just out of curiosity - how long it takes to scan 64 TERABYTES????? And mind you, you have not answered about "6x4 image from a 35mm film"? LOL LOL LOL LOL

But.... being dilettante is suit you pretty well.
Also.... just FYTI I have quite a few hobbies and trolling is definitely not my most favorite one.
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Reply By: Going Bush - Wednesday, Dec 26, 2012 at 09:14

Wednesday, Dec 26, 2012 at 09:14
I just recently bought an Olympus OM-D E-M5 which is a amazing camera for the price (plus I love the retro looks) and have bought a number of new lenses but also discovered this camera is ideally suited to my old 35mm film lenses.

one of the posters is not quite right, you can not use any lens on any camera, the adaptors, (if you could get one made) would bring the focal point too far in front of the sensor , great for macros but no infinity. The micro four thirds dosent have this problem as the thickness of the adaptors (readily available) brings the focal point onto the sensor in the correct spot as it would for a 35mm film camera,

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Follow Up By: Going Bush - Wednesday, Dec 26, 2012 at 09:46

Wednesday, Dec 26, 2012 at 09:46
minolta to micro four thirds adaptors are from $10 to $30 on ebay

I bought a Canon FD adaptor for my 30 year old 200mm FD lens delivered $35 from UK, On a micro 4/3 camera the 200mm becomes a 400mm (35mm equiv) lens.

Makes buying a micro 4/3 camera a very smart choice if you have some older lenses.

Note, you need to set the camera to Manual, you are used to Manual with the old camera so no big deal. The big plus is the 5 way image stabilisation is built into the OMD body so you can take hand held telephoto images no problems.
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Reply By: Sinkas - Saturday, Jan 05, 2013 at 15:52

Saturday, Jan 05, 2013 at 15:52
Well said Going Bush. I too have the Olympus OM-D E-M5 which is fantastic. You can also use aperture priority on the camera and the camera adjusts the shutter speed and iso to suit the lighting conditions. This is explained fairly well here http://tysonrobichaudphotography.wordpress.com/2010/02/25/your-micro-43s-camera-your-existing-lenses-limitless-fun/
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Reply By: KSV - Saturday, Jan 05, 2013 at 16:21

Saturday, Jan 05, 2013 at 16:21
Sony is your answer.

Saying that I would not concern about old zooms - they are crap comparing to modern standards. You better start afresh and if doing so I would not suggest Sony. Go Nikon or Canon. If you happy to stick to small sensor you may consider Pentax - they do marvelous glass. If you like to shoot with stretched hands (please do not ask me what I think about this method) then you may consider 4/3 system from Olympus or Panasonic. If you after pocketable snap-camera (my impression that you after DSLR style) it is another whole story
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