My new 3wd

Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 01, 2013 at 11:41
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Just got back from the beach after New Years and my
car has turned into a 3 wheel drive!
We were on a fairly steep soft beach and new it might be a bit tricky getting out , but it was damn near impossible! It was crabbing up the beach with absolutely no drive to the front left hand wheel.........had to drop the tyres down to about 5psi to get out!
Its an 80 series Landcruiser...........any ideas what Ive done.

Cheers......Happy New Year
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Reply By: Member - DW Lennox Head(NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 01, 2013 at 11:54

Tuesday, Jan 01, 2013 at 11:54
Hairy

It could be a either a CV joint or an axle. I did a lhs CV joint on the top of a mountain in an older LC. That was a lot of fun getting down in 2wd.

A fun job ahead.

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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Tuesday, Jan 01, 2013 at 12:09

Tuesday, Jan 01, 2013 at 12:09
There doesnt seem to be any CV noise????
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Reply By: KSV - Tuesday, Jan 01, 2013 at 11:55

Tuesday, Jan 01, 2013 at 11:55
Wild guess - locking hub. But if you have one unlocked and no difflock then another one will not work - i.e. it will be 2WD, not 3WD
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Tuesday, Jan 01, 2013 at 12:10

Tuesday, Jan 01, 2013 at 12:10
Sorry ....should have said..... full time 4wd
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Reply By: Ozhumvee - Tuesday, Jan 01, 2013 at 12:52

Tuesday, Jan 01, 2013 at 12:52
Sounds about right, I gather you have either a locker or an LSD in the back and an open diff in the front, centre diff locked.
If that is correct then everything is working as it should, if one front and both rear wheels spin then the other wheel receives no drive, to overcome that you need a locking diff of some description in the front.
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Tuesday, Jan 01, 2013 at 16:33

Tuesday, Jan 01, 2013 at 16:33
Can a worn diff make this worse? The whole car was crabbing down the beach, and when I steered left to right you would think the drive would change sides wouldnt you? Ive had the car for years and it just doesnt seem normal..........better jack it up I suppose.
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Reply By: pop2jocem - Tuesday, Jan 01, 2013 at 14:15

Tuesday, Jan 01, 2013 at 14:15
If yours is constant 4WD and the centre diff was locked maybe jack all 4 wheels off the ground, engage drive as you had on the beach and determine if you have broken something or if it was just a steep beach giving the impression of lost drive to a wheel.
If you definetly have no drive to one wheel break out the Sidchromes (or Snap-ons if very financially advantaged) and start removing bits. Maybe you have just stripped the splines on the drive flange. If not keep going in until you find the busted bit.


Cheers
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Tuesday, Jan 01, 2013 at 16:34

Tuesday, Jan 01, 2013 at 16:34
Yep....I think so......I hate working on bloody cars!
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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Tuesday, Jan 01, 2013 at 17:21

Tuesday, Jan 01, 2013 at 17:21
Yeah, me too, lol, that's experience of earning a quid pulling spanners for most of my life. That's also why I am happy to offer all the advice in the world and no practical help (;-((

Good luck mate
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Tuesday, Jan 01, 2013 at 19:43

Tuesday, Jan 01, 2013 at 19:43
I know the feeling.......I did my trade as a boilermaker/welder, so everything around my house is made of timber and screwed togother. LOL
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Follow Up By: Axle - Tuesday, Jan 01, 2013 at 21:00

Tuesday, Jan 01, 2013 at 21:00
G/Day Hairy,.....Buggger!....


Son /inlaw is taking my cruiser beach drivin next week.


I'm Scaaaaaaaaard now, he's hopeless at anytime.


Cheers Axle.
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 01, 2013 at 14:19

Tuesday, Jan 01, 2013 at 14:19
Bloody Toyotas!! :))

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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Tuesday, Jan 01, 2013 at 16:44

Tuesday, Jan 01, 2013 at 16:44
300,000 km and 1st hicup!!!!!! In all my travels we have only ever had to cut a trip short 3 times because of mechanical failure.....
Nissan G60.....Wheel fell off
Nissan G60.....Water in the electrics and burnt something out
Nissan 3.0LTD........bet you cant guess LOL
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Tuesday, Jan 01, 2013 at 17:38

Tuesday, Jan 01, 2013 at 17:38
Lucky i was joking or i may have been in for a real hammering! Someone told me if it's got t#ts or tyres, its bound to cause you grief !! Michael
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Tuesday, Jan 01, 2013 at 19:46

Tuesday, Jan 01, 2013 at 19:46
Yeah.......isnt that the truth.
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Reply By: The Bantam - Wednesday, Jan 02, 2013 at 12:11

Wednesday, Jan 02, 2013 at 12:11
Unless you have diff locks, if the front right had wheel is spinning, there will be no drive to the front left hand wheel.

There may be nothing wrong at all.

OR maybe one of the hubs was no locked in.

Back to checking the simple basics...jack up the front and check the differential works and the hubs engage.

cheers
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Wednesday, Jan 02, 2013 at 13:04

Wednesday, Jan 02, 2013 at 13:04
Constant 4wd.........yes, its time to break out the spanners.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Wednesday, Jan 02, 2013 at 19:31

Wednesday, Jan 02, 2013 at 19:31
Constant 4wd only means 1 wheel on the front and 1 wheel on the back will drive unless you have lockers, otherwise you would never be able to turn a corner. Which wheel on each axle depends on the one that spins the easiest. If a hub or cv has gone then that side will spin leaving no drive to the other side. If you had a locker on the front you would have been fine.
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Wednesday, Jan 02, 2013 at 20:11

Wednesday, Jan 02, 2013 at 20:11
Thats right.......which Im hoping hasnt happened.
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Follow Up By: Honky - Wednesday, Jan 02, 2013 at 21:26

Wednesday, Jan 02, 2013 at 21:26
On my calculations if you do not have lockers or LSD one wheel is going to spin, front and/or back even in an all wheel drive.
If you have a reasonable new vehicle than the ABS is a de-facto LSD so it may be a brake problem.

Honky
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Reply By: Rockape - Wednesday, Jan 02, 2013 at 21:03

Wednesday, Jan 02, 2013 at 21:03
Hairy,
good to see that you now you are getting older you have stepped of the Harley and now have one of those V dub powered 3 wheelers. LOL.

Hope it don't hurt the bank to much,

RA.

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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Wednesday, Jan 02, 2013 at 21:37

Wednesday, Jan 02, 2013 at 21:37
Hahahaha.......Na mate......stilll got a couple bikes. LOL
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Reply By: Hairy (NT) - Wednesday, Jan 02, 2013 at 21:49

Wednesday, Jan 02, 2013 at 21:49
Gday Honky,
Its about a 1994 model with standard diffs and no lockers. Its just that half way along the beach it really started crabbing and in all the years Ive had it, its never got stuck in a position like this before. Im not 100% sure wether the LHF was turning as I couldnt see it but a few people watching said it didnt seem to be. Another local said he had an F100 years ago which would spin the RHF wheel very easily and used to drop that wheel's presure a lot more than the other and it helped when I done this I drove out????? Im just curious I anyone has had a similer problem..........could it be a worn diff or hub or something.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Honky - Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 10:02

Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 10:02
Apart from a late model triton I also have a Delica.
In heavy going the Delica will spin one back wheel and one front.
It does not have LSD nor ABS.
Next time it does it you can use the poor mans LSD and hold the brakes slightly on whilst you are driving forward to see if this brings back the drive to both wheels.
I would assume your vehicle would have LSD on the back.

Honky
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Reply By: Rockape - Sunday, Jan 13, 2013 at 13:26

Sunday, Jan 13, 2013 at 13:26
Hairy,
what was the outcome with the trike or do you have to get new pedals.

RA.
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Follow Up By: Hairy (NT) - Sunday, Jan 13, 2013 at 13:43

Sunday, Jan 13, 2013 at 13:43
Gday RA,
Nothing wrong with it I dont reckon.......To many bleep advice givers at the time. LOL
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