76 series landcruiser gxl fuel consumption

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Hi everyone, I recently bought the new 76 series landcruiser and I absolutely love it! The only thing I am concerned about is the fuel consumption... I recently took a trip to Eden from Sydney towing a 3 tonne boat I was travelling 100 to 110km/hr most of the way and I am only getting 480kms to a full tank, does this sound right? When I drive around Sydney I get about 750kms to a tank and when I go away whilst not towing anything I average 550 to 600kms/tank. I always thought you would get more kms over long distances... It feels as though the car needs an extra gear because it seems to rev high at 100 to 110km/hr. the car is new and only has 7000kms. Any info would be great! Thank you
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Reply By: fisho64 - Wednesday, Jan 02, 2013 at 23:50

Wednesday, Jan 02, 2013 at 23:50
"a tank" is like a piece of string-without knowing the size of it you probably wont get much sense.
However if it goes from 550/600 a tank to 480 when you more than double the total load Id say that was absolutely outstanding?.
Bit odd though that you get better city milage than highway though?
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Reply By: Tim HJ61 (WA) - Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 01:45

Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 01:45
Note your km, or zero your trip meter, when you fill up your fuel tank.

Drive where you want to drive.

Fill your fuel tank and note the distance you have travelled from the previous fill.

Then work out how many litres you have used for how many kilometres.

Pulling a three tonne boat at 110 kmh seems like a pretty good way to use a lot of fuel.
Driving at 90 kmh in fifth at a steady speed seems like a pretty good way of not using very much fuel.

High revs will kill fuel consumption in a diesel. If you feel the engine is revving too high, then the ability to control this is with your right foot - slow down, or change up a gear.

These are things I have learnt in my many journeys, I hope they are useful to you.

Tim
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Follow Up By: Daniel M7 - Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 07:21

Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 07:21
Thanks for your post guys the obvious things are not helping me out... It's a 90L tank I thought those who had the same car would know that. When I'm talking about revving high I'm talking of when I'm in fifth gear and I don't think travelling 90km/hr just to save on fuel consumption is a solution or answer to my question....
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Follow Up By: KevL64 - Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 08:38

Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 08:38
Daniel
Whilst the tank may well be 90l, it's not completely empty when you fill. To correctly calculate fuel consumption you need to note exactly how much you put in to fill it and how far you have travelled.
With the variability in gauges, a fill from "empty" could be anywhere between 60 and 85 L. Without out knowing how much you put in nobody can give a definitive answer.

Kev
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Follow Up By: Tim HJ61 (WA) - Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 09:36

Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 09:36
Like the others have said, giving us subjective terms, no matter the vehicle, is not a helpful start for a posting.

If you say it's revving high, that's subjective. One persons high is another hangover. Hmm, that's a bad analogy, but you hopefully get my drift. Give us data, and it makes it a whole lot easier for us to give you the feedback you're seeking.

What revs are you doing at 110kmh?
It'll probably be exactly the same as all the others on the road, but without the data we can't help you diagnose a slipping clutch, for example.

Tim
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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian, SA - Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 07:09

Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 07:09
Sounds about right, in that if you are interested in saving fuel, you are driving way to fast in such terrain with that load. As for the consumption rate; much better to use the odometer between fills, while recording litres at the pump - the observed 'full and empty' status of tanks varies too much.
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Follow Up By: Daniel M7 - Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 07:26

Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 07:26
Thank you for that! So your car does the same which is good to know. I thought this type of car would be able to handle that sought of load, it kind of feels like it needs an extra gear.... Is your fuel consumption different when on long trips compared to city driving? (not towing).
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Follow Up By: MEMBER - Darian, SA - Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 11:51

Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 11:51
Virtually all cars will return significantly better figures on a cruise. City stop start is damaging for fuel saving (and many new cars now have the option of auto-engine-off / restart each time the vehicle comes to a rest). I haven't measured my consumption difference because I use my cruiser virtually exclusively as a van tow on decent trips. As well as gaining advice here, consider joining the relevant section of Landcruisers Online - a wealth of shared info and advice, for owners, by owners and all free.
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Reply By: Grumblebum and the Dragon - Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 08:16

Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 08:16
We drive a dinosaur compared to your 76. Ours is a 2000 model 100 series and we tow 3.5 tonnes of caravan. Towing, our consumption is about 20L/100K. but we tow at about 85 kph in 4th. Revs at this speed/gear are about 2400 rpm.

I am not surprised you are gulping fuel towing 3 tonnes at 110 kph. Slowing down or towing less are your only realistic options.

John
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Reply By: Mick O - Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 08:57

Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 08:57
Welcome to the least advertised downside of the new V8 Tojos. The fuel consumption can be shocking. If you drive the vehicle as stock standard and do not exceed 2000 RPM at any stage (this means sitting about 85-90 kph highway cycle), then you may achieve figures close to the 10/100 Toyota advertise. Any variance and you will loose km per litre instantly.

Tyres, bull bar, roof-rack and extra vehicle weight will negatively effect fuel economy immediately. So will driving it up-hill, over 90 kph or towing anything. My beast is extremely heavy, has large tyres and I tow just over a tonne with trailer and quad. When packed and travelling on holiday, I calculate my highway km at about 5km per litre (20/100). I’ve had as good as 7km per litre but normal highway average is more like 6 to 6.25 km per litre.

Towing a 3.5 tonne trailer at those speeds, I’m surprised you did that well actually. You could try replacing the standard snorkel head with a scoop type. A 3” exhaust may also increase your fuel efficiency but overall the only thing that will help is driving it like your great aunt in her Barina on her way to church…..slooowwwlly.


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Follow Up By: Daniel M7 - Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 15:58

Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 15:58
Thanks for that I will definitely look into it.... I didn't spend the money on this car to tow my boat like a granny. 90km/hr up to Gladstone next year is a long trip
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Follow Up By: Member - eighty matey - Friday, Jan 04, 2013 at 00:42

Friday, Jan 04, 2013 at 00:42
If you want to sit on 100 or 110 kph your figures are right.

Nothing wrong with your vehicle.

Now you know what it will cost to drive to Gladstone.

Have fun,
Steve
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Reply By: Member -Pinko (NSW) - Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 09:09

Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 09:09
Hi Daniel
I get to smile at these sort of posts and the replies.
I have a 2007 model with a canopy ... as said before 'as aerodynamic as a besser block"
I have two 90 litre tanks and when the red light comes on I zero the odo run it for another 55kms and switch to the sub tank.
Lift your right foot Danny !
98 kph is the go anything after that sucks the fuel.
IE. Longreach to St.George 810kms. = 121lts
I tow a 1200kg camper with the canopy loaded with water recovery gear tools etc.
I'm an old fart.
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Reply By: Member - bbuzz (NSW) - Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 10:26

Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 10:26
Driving to Eden at those speeds you must have been on the Hume and then across to Brown Mountain.

I would be sceptical of anyone achieving those speeds on the coast road.

All 4WD towing sucks fuel. To get better consumption, you have to drop the revs (speed).

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Reply By: Member - eighty matey - Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 10:51

Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 10:51
G'day Daniel,

if you work on 70 litres used for 480 km, that equates to about 14.5 litres per 100 km.

Towing a 3 tonne boat with a fourby, in that terrain (it's definitely not a dead flat road), at 100 -110 kph is pretty good.

I'd be more than happy to do that.
If you want to use less fuel, drive slower. It's the right foot that controls how much fuel squirts into the engine to make it go faster.

Have fun,
Steve
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Reply By: Ross M - Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 12:28

Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 12:28
G'day Daniel
As mentioned quite often the higher speed uses more fuel.
It is running inefficiently and the extra speed just increases the rate and degree the inefficiency is happening at.

Most people do not run their vehicles at the optimum.

When your engine revs are high enough to make maximum torque then that is around the revs you will have to travel at for economy.
5th gear may not be an option if towing large weights and one poster has mentioned they tow 3.5 at 90km/h in 4th and this is around 2400rpm.
Since their engine probably makes max torque at 1750rpm they are also running well past the optimum fuel economy position and if in 4th then 80km/h will do far better again because the torque is there but not the rate of fuel usage.

Yes it is slow, but the balance of mass moved for fuel used is what people are hoping to achieve.
Everything nowadays is GO GO GO and 80km/h a few years ago was normal and would have received respect on the road, for what you are towing.
Fuel economy! Who gives a Rats Armpit about that.
All fuel tests on vehicles and economy runs are based on what is unobtainable in the real world.

If a similar engine was used to power ie, a generator, and it was working as hard as a tow vehicle engine, the generator would be set to continuously run at the optimum and be achieving far better relative fuel economy than tow vehicles. Our situation of varying conditions means it is harder to achieve.
The people who get good relative fuel economy are the ones who understand the limitations and abilities and act accordingly.
Screaming down the highway isn't applying anything except the right foot.
Ross M
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Reply By: braggy - Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 13:11

Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 13:11
Hi Daniel
I have a 76 series, tank distance hard to tell, mine has 130lt tank,
but best way to get good consumption figures is get a Scan Gauge,
it will tell you instant usage and you can learn what is the best at that time
Consumption will vary with ambient temp, headwind, ect, scan gauge will tell you

But your figures aren't bad

say 80lts.....480 km = 16.7 lt per 100k .. towing
575 km= 13 lph................. hi way
750 km = 10.5 lph.............. city (start in 2nd do we ?)

From that a bit quick on the hiway, but she is a work horse not a sports car

But I do agree another gear would be good

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Reply By: passionfruit - Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 14:46

Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 14:46
Diesels ,as long as I have been driving them,have always been frugal when used in 'track like' driving.Once you drive them at highway speeds they tent to used fuel like a petrol car.That's my experience.......
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Follow Up By: Member - VickiW - Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 21:21

Thursday, Jan 03, 2013 at 21:21
Hi Daniel, I also drive the 76 and it's now done about 20k.

I agree it feels like it needs another gear & have heard the same comment from other 76 drivers.

I don't tow but your city and highway usage seem about right. When I've checked, I get about 12.5 for highway driving (with the car loaded up).

As everyone has said, the best way to reduce usage is to stay below 100 and don't accelerate hard. Otherwise - get a long range tank & think about it less :)
Cheers,
Vicki
ps my other car is a diesel Fiat 500 - 35 litre tank. I tried for years to match the manufacturer's number on average fuel usage. The closest I got was 4.3ltr when I drove almost all motorways to work & stayed under 100 - never made the 4.2 though :)
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Reply By: exmouth1 - Friday, Jan 04, 2013 at 01:12

Friday, Jan 04, 2013 at 01:12
G, day Daniel
I ha ve a 2008 troopy with 3 inch exhaust and safari snorkel and 285 x 16 tyres It weighs 3.2 tonnes loaded. If I sit on 100 kph I get 650 to 700 kms on 85 litres. If I sit on 110 kph I get 600 to 640 ks for 85 litres.. I also think it could do with an extra gear or an auto gearbox would be much better as there is no shortage of power. Fyi it chews the diesel up when sitting on 140 kph on the NT ROADS.

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