Morons on Fraser

Submitted: Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 08:16
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Spotlights put rescue chopper at risk


Nearly as bad as the idiots who want to shine lasers at aircraft.

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Reply By: Da Ne - Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 09:08

Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 09:08
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Reply By: Les - PK Ranger - Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 09:28

Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 09:28
Chris and Sue, the sad thing is most, (and I imagine) if not ALL, of them probably thought they were helping light up the scene, rather than destroying the pilots night vision.

Good the crew managed to get through it and get the victim out, sounds like arteries were severed.

Ha ha, Da NE, that's the funniest thing I've read in a long time !! : )
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Follow Up By: Lyn W3 - Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:36

Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:36
I also think it's a little harsh to call them "morons" as Les says they were probably trying to help the helo land.

I think you will find the proper way is to form a circle about 100m across with the cars/4wd's facing each other with their lights on low beam. and for aircraft landing on strips a line of cars on each side facing away from the landing aircraft with their lights on low beam shining down the runway.
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Follow Up By: Chris & Sue (Briz Vegas) - Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:48

Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:48
Hi Les, Lyn et al,

While I trust the media about as much as I could throw them, the phrase "holiday revellers" in the article makes me think that they might have had just a few too many of whatever floats their boat.

As Lyn says, there is a right way to assist, and what they were doing wasn't it. You don't guide a person at night (even on the ground) by shining a light in their eyes, even with a flashlight.

Well intentioned or not, it was still a remarkably dangerous thing to do. One might hope that they might read this column (or at least the second part of it!) and learn something.

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Follow Up By: Member - Frank P (NSW) - Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 11:09

Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 11:09
From the report:

"the 4WDs began driving up the beach shining their headlights and a handheld spotlight directly at the helicopter"

You'd have to be a moron to think that was helping.

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Follow Up By: Member - Frank P (NSW) - Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 11:12

Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 11:12
Not you, Les!!!

The idiots with the lights!
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 12:45

Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 12:45
Haha, thanks for the addition there Frank :)

Yeah, gotta admit, even 'helping' in that way shows a lack of basic comon sense.
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Follow Up By: Ross M - Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 23:12

Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 23:12
Chris & Sue (Briz Vegas)
Please, please, here in orstraya as shane worn (not sure how worn) says, we call them a "Torch" Yanks call them a flashlight.

Shining a light at someone is akin to someone driving at you with their lights on highbeam, it closes your irises so you can't pickup the surrounding reflected light so effectively can't see.

With the number of people allowed on the island the "more on there" means a higher percentage on morons on there.
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Reply By: brushmarx - Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:36

Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:36
When I heard this on the radio, my first thought was that the 4x4 drivers where trying to add sufficient light so the helicopter pilot or the on ground people could see properly. Also, if the pilot was having problems with vehicle light glare, couldn't he just rotate the chopper a bit?
We all know the media wouldn't try to mislead the public.
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Reply By: Alloy c/t - Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 11:32

Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 11:32
Two sides to this "story" , the CourierMail has only looked at 1 side so far it would seem to create a "headline" ,,,,,
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Follow Up By: Member - Frank P (NSW) - Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 14:36

Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 14:36
The story has been updated by the chopper crew. What they say indicates a deliberate attempt to create a hazard.
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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 17:16

Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 17:16
Frank , as stated above , 2 sides to every story , no word or comment as yet from the people on the ground ,, out our way we all head out to the airport as required to "light" the place up whenever the RFDS is needed at night ,never yet has a pilot complained that we have given him too much light , sooner the light than slamming into a roo or emu on the landing strip !!
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Saturday, Jan 12, 2013 at 08:11

Saturday, Jan 12, 2013 at 08:11
So, looking at the story update, it was ONE moron ?
Well, that's still one too many, but takes away from the first sensationalised news report a bit.
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Follow Up By: Member - Frank P (NSW) - Saturday, Jan 12, 2013 at 10:26

Saturday, Jan 12, 2013 at 10:26
Alloy,
Headlights to light up a landing area is one thing. Directing a spotlight straight at the landing helicopter is another. It creates a significant hazard. If the person(s) didn't know that they are morons. If they did know it, they are criminals.
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Reply By: Member - Noldi (WA) - Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 17:48

Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 17:48
Had a good example of the medias coverage of events this morning, I passed on some pics titles great stom pics from cyclone Narelle, was pick up on by a fried that linked me to a site saying it had nothing to do with Narelle.
Did a quick search on google for "Narelle Storm Pics"

Of the first 10 results 5 said the storm was a result of the cyclone, 5 said it was totally unrelated, 9 thanked martin for the pics and one thanked steve (same pics by the way)
some said they were taken from a tug, others from a gas platform support vessel and one said it was a fishing boat

Reports were from media outlets such as Perthnow, theage ect.

With this sort of reporting and we all know its not an isolated instance, I can't see how anyone can make a conclusion on any story based on media stories.
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Follow Up By: Member - Noldi (WA) - Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 17:49

Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 17:49
Just re read my post sorry about the spelling
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Follow Up By: Member - Old Girl - Saturday, Jan 12, 2013 at 08:00

Saturday, Jan 12, 2013 at 08:00
Sorry this a bit away from the chopper, that footage was straight from a storm chasers web page. With no mention of them.
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Reply By: Wilko (Parkes NSW) - Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 19:19

Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 19:19
Hi Chris & Sue,

Oxygen thieves, you wouldnt feed them, unfortunately Its illegal to cull them and they wont flush so we stuck with the simpletons till they cark it.

Cheers Wilko

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Follow Up By: Member - Kevin S (QLD) - Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 20:36

Friday, Jan 11, 2013 at 20:36
But Wilco, someone keeps making them. They will out live us all. Who was it who said that one is born every minute?
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Reply By: Les - PK Ranger - Saturday, Jan 12, 2013 at 08:06

Saturday, Jan 12, 2013 at 08:06
True that Kevin . . . they reckon somwhere in the World, every 0.238 seconds, a woman is giving birth to a child . . . we must find that woman, and stop her !
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Reply By: Member - PJR (NSW) - Saturday, Jan 12, 2013 at 08:19

Saturday, Jan 12, 2013 at 08:19
Are some of you who are trying to defend what these tools did, on the same planet??? I know the reason behind your post, but in this case I wouldn't give it a second thought.

We all know what a chopper sounds like and one at Fraser can only mean a rescue. These two facts alone totally undermine your defence of their actions. It was a deliberate stupid and childish act.

Look out ET in coming back!! I think not.

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