Hand Held vesus vehicle mounted UHF CB

Hi all,

Looking for some advice on CB radio (first time buyer). I have read a lot already on the site (great info). I have learnt that the 80 channel narrow band is the future. There some 80 ch narrow band hand held CB's on the market with duplex etc.... (looked at the Uniden UHO76SX). They claim up to 15km distance. Looking for good advice on how this compares to transmission distance from a typical vehicle mount. Yes if you pick up a repeater then you could get up to 100km but without his how do they compare.

Learning about radio gain and antena mounting positions. But if the range is similar why wouldnot you choose a hand held?

Cheers Brad
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Reply By: Olsen's 4WD Tours and Training - Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 16:04

Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 16:04
A handheld of any wattage will NEVER get the range a vehicle mounted unit will. Its all about the compromises necessary in the antenna system of a handheld, no matter the wattage. A handheld's antenna system is a serious compromise.
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 16:59

Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 16:59
Assuming the handheld is a quality unit and not a short range $50 special then I think you have summed it up pretty well as mostly about the antenna compromises Olsen.

As a rough idea we use good handhelds from within a car and the range is reduced to about 1/3 that of the same radio when we connect our magnetic mount roof aerial to the handheld.

Its a little hard to be more accurate beacuse all except the front window on the car has window tint which further reduces the range.


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Reply By: bluefella - Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 16:34

Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 16:34
G'day Brad
i have the uniden you mentioned, you can run an external aerial to it in the car when it is in its cradle, also they have a extension mic and speaker combo,mine works great.
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Follow Up By: mikehzz - Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 18:10

Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 18:10
Yes I have that set up too, external antenna to a 5watt handheld with external mike. I like it because I can use it in other cars as well.
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Follow Up By: garry r - Sunday, Feb 03, 2013 at 09:33

Sunday, Feb 03, 2013 at 09:33
yep, I also run inboard radio as well as 2 hand helds when leaving the vechile. The hand held works fine on the external ariel on the ute. I"m an icom man from way back - yes there more expensive but its what I prefer with never a problem had.
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Reply By: Member - Broodie H3 - Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 16:36

Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 16:36
Hi Brad,
We travel with both hand held and vehicle mounted radios, we mainly use the hand helds when away from the vehicle like doing a long walk,or reversing the van. I still believe you need a vehicle mounted one while travelling, even if it is to listen to the general chatter as you can pick up on heavy haulage or road blocks an have time to make different travel plans. Ours are the uniden that you are looking at and I have never had a problem with them. The range alters with terrain that you are travelling through. I hope this is of some help to you.
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Reply By: Member - PJR (NSW) - Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 16:39

Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 16:39
If at any time you want to use it when mobile thenforget the hand held. You may be able to talk to the car in front or behind but not reliably with the one down the road who has your mate in it telling you to stop and turn around because he had a prang. An example thats all. The signal will have a devil of a time getting out of the metal encased cabin of a normal car.

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Reply By: Member - Boobook - Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 17:40

Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 17:40
A 5w handheld will be every bit as good and will work as far as any 5W in car UHF provided the use the same antenna.

A Handheld connected to an say a 6db magnetic external antenna mounted on the roof will perform better than a in car unit with a 6db antenna mounted on the bull bar.

It won't perform at all well if it can not connect to an external antenna and has an antenna in the car.

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Reply By: Crackles - Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 20:22

Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 20:22
The other feature that no-one has picked up on yet is most handhelds have relatively poor speaker quality & can be difficult to hear.
Cheers Craig..........
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Follow Up By: Member - PJR (NSW) - Sunday, Feb 03, 2013 at 09:46

Sunday, Feb 03, 2013 at 09:46
Good point Craig.

I added a speaker to the old car when I had the VHF unit installed. It's been so long since I even turned any hand held on, including the UHF hand held, that I forgot.

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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 21:47

Saturday, Feb 02, 2013 at 21:47
Hiya Brad, I just bought a Uniden handheld that model, I used it for one trip and passed it onto my daughter and bought a Icom IC41W, but more expensive but about 18 times better a unit, gets out better, sound is mega better and a sturdier looking unit.

If I was you I would get both a handheld and a vehicle mounted unit
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Follow Up By: Member - MUZBRY(Vic) - Sunday, Feb 03, 2013 at 08:33

Sunday, Feb 03, 2013 at 08:33
Gday Bonz
You do the same as me with things that I don't want, give them to the kids and tell them how good it is.......

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Reply By: Life Member - Doug T (NT) - Sunday, Feb 03, 2013 at 07:28

Sunday, Feb 03, 2013 at 07:28
Forget the Uniden, they're crap for the listener recieving your call, hand helds ar ok for walkers , for mobile a mounted is the best as it's always where you want it when you want it, not rolling around under the seat. Unlike the earlier vehicles ie 75 series Landcruiser with dash sides ideal for mounting things and a dash that one can mount things on or under the newer vehicles are hard to find a good mounting spot, OK so GME have a very small but efficient UHF CB that could be easily mounted under the dash .
Off hand I don't remember the model number, then of course there's the under the seat TX3340 with all controls on the mike....imagine how much a replacement mike would cost...


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Follow Up By: Fab72 - Sunday, Feb 03, 2013 at 09:57

Sunday, Feb 03, 2013 at 09:57
I agree with Doug. Uniden sound like your transmitting from inside an empty milo tin.
I run a GME TX 4???. (Can't remember the model number). It's a commercial unit with a power output of 5W-25W. Mine is mounted behind the glovebox with only the hand piece hanging out. I also run a GME external speaker which is mounted up by the rear view mirror. The external speaker is much better than the inbuilt one and allows me to have the volume set low so the kids don't expand their vocabulary when driving through built up areas.
To compliment this, I also have an el-cheapo handheld of 1W power just for basic coms like when you're using a spotter to guide you through some ugly stuff, or when the kids walk off to catch tadpoles or the like.
Hope that helps.

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Follow Up By: Fab72 - Sunday, Feb 03, 2013 at 10:03

Sunday, Feb 03, 2013 at 10:03
TX3800 ....that's the one!
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Follow Up By: Brad H2 - Sunday, Feb 10, 2013 at 16:03

Sunday, Feb 10, 2013 at 16:03
Thanks to all of you for providing good advice. I went with a GME in car 80 channel with an airial on the Bull bar.

Cheers Brad
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