Jackaroo wheel
Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 28, 2004 at 20:22
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markaroo
Hi all
I've damaged a alloy beyond repair on my 99 Se Jackaroo with manual hubs.The spare was a alloy so I'll use that and I was going to replace it with a steel.But when I rang a Holden dealer for a price a new steel rim is only $600.I was too scared to ask the price of a alloy.
I have tried a couple of wreckers but no luck on Jackaroo rims.One guy said a Prado rim will do the trick.So I ordered over the phone and had it couriered to me (no flex at work).Of course when i get it i can see straight away that it wont fit.It's dished too different.Does anyone know of a alternative rim that would do?
ps.On a different note I posted a Q about Lockers alittle while ago.I decided to fit a Air Locker to the front.What a AWSOME improvement.People look and go "it's only a Jackaroo",then their mouths drop open when they see what it can do.
Markaroo
Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Jan 28, 2004 at 22:37
Wednesday, Jan 28, 2004 at 22:37
You could buy a complete set of mags for about $600!
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Follow Up By: Kevin - Friday, Jan 30, 2004 at 17:11
Friday, Jan 30, 2004 at 17:11
I had a spare for a 1999 Jackaroo that was off a Mazda Bravo and it did the job.
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Follow Up By: Patroleum - Tuesday, Feb 03, 2004 at 22:07
Tuesday, Feb 03, 2004 at 22:07
Yeah, we had a jackaroo 98 V6 and upgraded to the 4800 patrol recently. Had a similar problem, cracked a rim on a bush track and
had difficulty getting a replacement rim,found one eventually.
Ours cracked on the inside! Has yours been ok or a lemon?
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Reply By: Member - StevenL - Wednesday, Jan 28, 2004 at 23:01
Wednesday, Jan 28, 2004 at 23:01
I did this exercise for my current Honda Civic which only has a space saver spare (bicycle tyre!). When I replaced the original tyres at 40,000km (pretty poor effort from the
Dunlop SP300's) I kept the best of them for a full size spare. I rang Honda for a price on a new steel wheel and they said $300 and I hung up. I got a good one from the wreckers for $40. The tyre place that sold me the new Pirelli P400's (great tyres) said bring the rim back and they fitted the old tyre to it for free. I now have a full size spare which incidently fits in the same space as the space saver once I removed the foam blocks that hold up the boot floor. Honda says Space-saver. I say Cost Saver!
Sorry I can't help you with a spare rim for the Jack but I feel better having had a whinge about dodgy spares. What really gets me is there are 4WD's that are being sold with these space/cost saver tyres! How crazy are they? Obviously urban warriors only. I spent the time and money getting a bigger spare in the Civic as I still did alot of country touring with it. Now that I am getting the Prado I am happy that there is a full sizer hanging on the back door.
While on this subject I suppose I have to ask the question if anyone knows of cheap 17" rims for the 120 Prado so I can make up a second spare for that?!
StevenLPlaydoe GXL TD Manual
It's on order, Delivery in April '04.
This
pic will have to do till then. Can't wait!!!
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Jan 29, 2004 at 00:35
Thursday, Jan 29, 2004 at 00:35
"What really gets me is there are 4WD's that are being sold with these space/cost saver tyres! "
Which ones??? You could only mean softroaders.
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Follow Up By: Baldrick - Thursday, Jan 29, 2004 at 00:43
Thursday, Jan 29, 2004 at 00:43
I think the Toureg has one, and probably the Cayenne. Says something about their expected use!
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Follow Up By: Member - StevenL - Thursday, Jan 29, 2004 at 00:49
Thursday, Jan 29, 2004 at 00:49
Honda HRV
Volvo XC90
Merc ML320 (full size is $2538 option)
Porche Cayenne
Holden Adventra
Honda MDX
VW Toerag (Intentional mispelling!)
Audi Allroad
Holden Cruze
That was the list I compiled in 5 mins by doing a doing a google on "4wd space saver"
Granted most are softies but still they advertise on getting away to the beach or at least out of town!
I see the Porche/VW twins being touted as "real off-road ability"
It make you wonder.
StevenLPlaydoe GXL TD Manual
It's on order, Delivery in April '04.
This
pic will have to do till then. Can't wait!!!
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Follow Up By: Member - StevenL - Thursday, Jan 29, 2004 at 01:01
Thursday, Jan 29, 2004 at 01:01
Something many people don't realise about these small spares (only mentioned briefly in the manuals) is the fact that they are also smaller diameter and cannot be used on drive axles as it buggers the diff having different diameter wheels. If I get a flat in the Civic on a front wheel the manual says to change the smaller spare onto the back axle and then change the wheel I took off the back axle to the front axle (replacing the flat). Just what you need when on a freeway at night in the rain - having to change TWO wheels to fix ONE flat!
How would this work with fulltime 4wd?????
Stuff that.Playdoe GXL TD Manual
It's on order, Delivery in April '04.
This
pic will have to do till then. Can't wait!!!
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Jan 29, 2004 at 10:51
Thursday, Jan 29, 2004 at 10:51
And not one of them you would take offroad!
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Jan 29, 2004 at 10:57
Thursday, Jan 29, 2004 at 10:57
VW Toerag (Intentional mispelling!)
You telling me you wouldnt like an engine like that V10 in your car?
check the power and torque figures... leaves the japs in its wake.
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Follow Up By: Member - StevenL - Thursday, Jan 29, 2004 at 13:01
Thursday, Jan 29, 2004 at 13:01
OK. There may be just a smaaaall amount of envy involved here! If I could afford it I would probably have one.
BTW VW also offers the full sizer as an option similar to Mercedes. It is $2000 and includes the wheel and a tailgate mounted bracket.Playdoe GXL TD Manual
It's on order, Delivery in April '04.
This
pic will have to do till then. Can't wait!!!
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Reply By: desray - Wednesday, Jan 28, 2004 at 23:27
Wednesday, Jan 28, 2004 at 23:27
Markaro where are you ? The Prado rim should fit ,was it a 6x16 or a 7x16 from a GXL. I have 4 16x7 GXL prado rims for sale they were on a 99 Jackeroo when I bought them. Ray in
perth WA
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Reply By: PAULL - Thursday, Jan 29, 2004 at 08:15
Thursday, Jan 29, 2004 at 08:15
Try Jackworld, jackworld@alphalink.com.au - GM or GM compatible parts at reasonable prices - they were set up to circumvent us Jack owners having to deal with GM directly or with disinterested holden dealers. Also tell me more about your diff lockers - haven't got em but sounds good, are you petrol or diesel?
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Reply By: PAULL - Thursday, Jan 29, 2004 at 08:17
Thursday, Jan 29, 2004 at 08:17
Try Jackworld, jackworld@alphalink.com.au - GM or GM compatible parts at reasonable prices - they were set up to circumvent us Jack owners having to deal with GM directly or with disinterested holden dealers. Also tell me more about your diff lockers - haven't got em but sounds good, are you petrol or diesel?
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Reply By: Robert - Thursday, Jan 29, 2004 at 08:50
Thursday, Jan 29, 2004 at 08:50
Makaroo
I purchased a 16X7 Prado rim as a second spare. There is a aprox 25mm difference in the offset. Tried it both front and back on the my wide track Jack with no clearance problems. It will get me out of trouble if my first spare fails. Cost $40 from tyre dealer who also fitted and balance the tyre for no extra.
RobertL
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Reply By: Mike - Thursday, Jan 29, 2004 at 11:09
Thursday, Jan 29, 2004 at 11:09
I had the same problem with Jackaroo rims. An alloy is over $1000 new from a Holden dealer. The Tojo rims do fit but as you said, the offsets are different and therefore unsuitable, except for an emergency. I just kept up chasing wreckers and finally got a full set, so I could outfit the camper trailer as
well. Someone said you could get a full set of mags for $600,
well the problem is, no-one makes replacement wheels for Jackaroos, handy that. Markaroo, just keep trawling the wreckers over the Yellow pages, you'll get wheels at a reasonable price eventually. Good luck.
Happy trails, Mike.
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Reply By: Savvas - Thursday, Jan 29, 2004 at 11:11
Thursday, Jan 29, 2004 at 11:11
You can order a Sunraysia type steel wheel from most tyre
places that will fit correctly for less than $100 each. Just beware that you will need wheel nuts with a different taper on the end.
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Follow Up By: pathfinder - Thursday, Jan 29, 2004 at 13:01
Thursday, Jan 29, 2004 at 13:01
yep, I agree. Sunraysia steelies are the go for off-road work and you can pick them up for as cheap as $70 each new - bargain...
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Follow Up By: Mike - Friday, Jan 30, 2004 at 10:52
Friday, Jan 30, 2004 at 10:52
The problem with the Sunraysia type wheel is that all the ones they make have a Tojo pattern, so while they will fit, the offsets are all wrong, which changes the track thus making them illegal. I tried for ages through many dealers to get a Jackaroo offset to no avail.
Happy trails, Mike.
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Follow Up By: Mike - Saturday, Jan 31, 2004 at 14:56
Saturday, Jan 31, 2004 at 14:56
Savvas, I believe the Prado ones are 25mm extra offset, which will increase the track 50mm. the 100 series rims are an extra 50-60 mm, so no use at all.
Happy trails, Mike.
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Reply By: markaroo - Thursday, Jan 29, 2004 at 22:29
Thursday, Jan 29, 2004 at 22:29
Hi all.Thanks for the responses.I called the wreckers that supplied the Prado rim and said the rim was no good for me.The guy on the phone said I could try another place but he had a Jack steely on the rack.Sent it over I said.So all should be ok.Thanks for the clue on Jackworld.
Paull.I have the petrol Jack in auto so the cheese and kiss's can drive it as well.Can't recommend a front air locker enough!On a recent trip to Mana park in QLD all tracks became no worries at all.Had to go to extreme to damage wheel.
Front locker would seem to be the go as the Jack has good limo in rear.
Markaroo
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Reply By: Savvas - Friday, Jan 30, 2004 at 07:32
Friday, Jan 30, 2004 at 07:32
Markaroo,
Just for the record, All 4WD Spares in
Sydney had a set of 5 SE alloy rims for $750 some months ago. www.all4wdspares.com.au.
Cheers
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