Patrol Clutch.

Submitted: Tuesday, Apr 30, 2013 at 21:51
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Hi All -- Just looking for some advice/thoughts. The clutch on my 2000 GU TD42 shudders badlly when pulling away on hills when I have camper trailer on back. Have no probs on steep inclines on bitumen, dirt, sand etc provided vehicle is moving. It will pull away from walking pace in high and low range with no problem. Had a problem couple of days ago trying pull out of a steep driveway with camper. Ran backwards in 1st High but got out in 1st low with lots of slip then drove from northwest Sydney to Wollongong with no issues, ie no slip no shudder. Patrol has done 180k. Been driving manuals for 30+ yrs. this is first clutch problem. Should I replace with Exedy Safari or stick with Nissan clutch.
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Tuesday, Apr 30, 2013 at 22:34

Tuesday, Apr 30, 2013 at 22:34
I had a similar problem with backing my trailer a couple of years ago. I slipped the clutch , and you could smell it. It shuddered for a few days and settled. still going ok! My 03 4.2 Tdi has just clicked over 350,000ks with the original clutch. My 99 4.2 td clutch did 350,000ks and finally died towing a triple horse float... I've had both Patrols from new so i know they are original. I see a lot of guys still getting low ks from these so called heavier clutches, maybe they abuse them but I reckon the Nissan is as good as anything else. Exedy claim they have a 25 % more clamp but who knows. Nissan clutch is about $650 i'm told, but I haven't actually priced one myself. We want to start doing some more desert trips so I guess I will be forced to change my clutch for peace of mind but i'm still reluctant while it feels normal. I guess its up to you what you do, its your call. Michael
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Reply By: bluefella - Wednesday, May 01, 2013 at 06:57

Wednesday, May 01, 2013 at 06:57
I would always use a genuine full clutch kit and replace rear main seal.
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Reply By: Olsen's 4WD Tours and Training - Wednesday, May 01, 2013 at 08:14

Wednesday, May 01, 2013 at 08:14
My Nissan at 60000 kilometres required a new clutch (pretty typical for OEM clutches these days). I replace it with a 4Terrain Semi Button clutch which has now done over 320,000 k. I would highly recommend the 4 Terrain.
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Follow Up By: Olsen's 4WD Tours and Training - Wednesday, May 01, 2013 at 18:48

Wednesday, May 01, 2013 at 18:48
The longevity of the 4 Terrain speaks for itself, and doing what I do could not be a better test as far as I am concerned. The beauty of the semi button design with buttons one side and organic clutch (normal) the other side is you get both fine control and grip. You can still slip the clutch with ease but it takes the punishment of 300,000 plus ks of desert and off-road driving.
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Follow Up By: Member - Grundle (WA) - Thursday, May 02, 2013 at 18:16

Thursday, May 02, 2013 at 18:16
Hi whats the price of a 4 terrain clutch pls.

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Follow Up By: Olsen's 4WD Tours and Training - Thursday, May 02, 2013 at 18:32

Thursday, May 02, 2013 at 18:32
No idea sorry.

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Reply By: Robin Miller - Wednesday, May 01, 2013 at 08:20

Wednesday, May 01, 2013 at 08:20
Like guya above I would stay with a standard clutch - you don't actually want more clamping power you want fine control.

Mine started to tailor off around 200k , partly caused by slave cylinder not acting fast enough as it was a bit gunky - got a changeover and it helped but at 250k facing more desert drives I just replaced it.

It can be done at home but I don't reccomend this as its a heavy box.

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Reply By: Member - Chris (QLD) - Wednesday, May 01, 2013 at 09:42

Wednesday, May 01, 2013 at 09:42
I had the same problem with mine, 05' TD4.2, normal driving it was ok but when towing the camper would get the shudder up. I also do not like the feel of the Patrol clutch, too soft and vague, changed it out for a Safari Tuff, much better in my opinion, little heavier but much better feel.
The old clutch plate still had plenty of wear left in it but was very glazed, which is probably what was causing the shudder.
I have also fitted a set of Marks Adaptors 43% low range reduction gears, which has reduced the need for any clutch slipping when towing the camper in low range offroad situations.
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Follow Up By: Dune Climber - Wednesday, May 01, 2013 at 18:41

Wednesday, May 01, 2013 at 18:41
Thanks for all the replies. Still not too sure if I should go with Nissan clutch or not, but will have to decide pretty soon. In the process of planning next years 3mth trip to Kimberly, Gibb River Rd etc. with camper so will have to fix before then. As I said before Patrol drives great with and without camper, only get the problem when going from standstill on very steep hills with camper.(If you know Wollongong area have no troubles on Bulli Pass or Mount Ousley)
Did the Gulf and back last yr. no probs.
Will get some prices this week and discuss with mechanic.
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