Fuel Economy for LC 200

Submitted: Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 18:48
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Hi,
I am thinking of buying a LC 200 and was wandering about fuel usage figures people are getting around town, on the open road and when towing. My van is under 2000kg.

Thanks for any help,
Richard
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Reply By: Member - Jim - Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 19:12

Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 19:12
Richard,

You will get lots of replies but:
Mine (typical use)

Around town generally about 12.8-13.4 ltrs/100km
Travelling without van (long trip) 11.3-12.0 depending on terrain
With van (approx 2300kg) 17-22 lrts/100 once again depending on terrain and speed

I hope this is of some assistance
Jim
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Reply By: Member - Wamuranman - Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 20:36

Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 20:36
On a 7000km trip covering all types of terrain towing a 2700kg van we averaged 19 ltres /100km.

Have talked with a few on the road with similar setups and 19 l/100km seems common with vans over 2500kg.

Cheers
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Reply By: Robert H2 - Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 22:09

Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 22:09
I purchased a new LC200 early last year.

Typically around town I get in the high 12's or if heavy traffic into 13 L/100kms.

Have had a few runs down the Hume to Melbourne and driving for economy I get around 10L/100km.

I have a van (ATM 2400). I picked it up in Caloundra april this year and drove back down the highway to Sydney. I got 14.7L/100Kms but really nursed it. More recently with a few dirt roads it's around the mid 15's which I'm very happy with.

Push it or drive it hard and it will guzzle diesel. Install a Scangauge II so you can monitor fuel consumption and a lot of other readouts e.g. transmission fluid temperature

Pretty happy with consumption, but I don't have a bull bar, roof rake or raised suspension which all add to fuel consumption and I have learnt to drive it for economy (important to learn how to get the transmission to lock up)

Great tow vehicle, you never have to worry about hills or pulling out to pass.

Lots of information on the "Landcruisers owners on line" site

http://www.lcool.org/forum/index.
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Follow Up By: Member - Rich - Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 22:15

Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 22:15
Sounds like a Q owner :)

Rich
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Follow Up By: Robert H2 - Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 10:06

Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 10:06
Rich,

Very close, its an M, with very happy owners.

Rob
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Follow Up By: Member - Rich - Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 10:48

Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 10:48
Rob,
I have an E1.

Seen your info on AOR.

Rich
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Reply By: Member - Arsenal Phill - Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 22:23

Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 22:23
We are currently doing a trip from Perth up into the Kimberley. Its a V8 Diesel Sahara. She is chipped but the exhaust is still standard. Our van is about 3.2 -3.3 so heavier than yours and she is very high. We are currently averaging around 22 litres per hundred. Hope this helps. On some runs between fuel stops we've got her down to around 20.5 for a full tank. We barrel along at 100km/hr so don't sit back as such.
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Reply By: NTVRX - Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 22:27

Friday, Sep 13, 2013 at 22:27
Richard, What economy do you expect? What economy would you expect from a V8? I have spoken to two fellow travellers each towing a van same weight basically as mine 2790 driving 200 series automatics 2012 models.....towing at 90 to 95 K/pH they used 22 to 23 Litres per 100Km.....one fellow stated he reported oil use to Toyota & was told that....."it is the nature of the beast....oil use is common don't worry about it"!!!! There is a Landcruiser forum...lcool ....I think it;s called. There is also another web site posted by a disgruntled owner I think if you google "Oh what a lemon" there are views from" not happy Jan" owners. Good luck with whatever you decide. Rob
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 06:33

Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 06:33
LOL the Lemon web site is a beauty. The guy is, how shall I put this....obsessed and 'artistic'.

His biggest single complaint was that the seat was not height adjustable, which he should have known before he bought it.

While there is some good info on that site, much of it is either old, exaggerated or simply made up.

'Oh what a psycho'

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Follow Up By: Member - Rich - Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 06:40

Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 06:40
Rob,
Just trying to get an idea , no expectations.

Rich
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Follow Up By: Member - Paul B (WA) - Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 09:15

Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 09:15
Why the big focus on fuel economy? By far the greatest cost of motoring is BUYING the car, not refuelling it, yet it seems to be the thing that most exercises us.

I've known people to spend $20,000 or $30,000 replacing a vehicle to save fuel and when you point out they wouldn't spend that much on fuel in a lifetime they look at you as if you've got two heads.
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Follow Up By: Member - Rich - Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 09:30

Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 09:30
Paul
You are correct.
However I am considering other vehicles and fuel economy is something that I will factor in with my decision.

The 200 has lots of other benefits which out way this but it is something I am considering.

Rich

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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 21:15

Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 21:15
Boobook, isnt his biggest complaint about the corrosion?
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Sunday, Sep 15, 2013 at 06:21

Sunday, Sep 15, 2013 at 06:21
I am not sure fisho, I haven't read it for years, however it started off a few years ago with the biggest issue being the seat wasn't height adjustable and he was pushing to get a VX swap out for his GXL, and it grew from there. You name it and I am sure it will be on the site.
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Sunday, Sep 15, 2013 at 15:06

Sunday, Sep 15, 2013 at 15:06
Might be a bit confused there, theres no such thing as a VX ute is there?
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Monday, Sep 16, 2013 at 06:09

Monday, Sep 16, 2013 at 06:09
I think we are at crossed purposes, I was referring to the oh what a lemon website.
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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Monday, Sep 16, 2013 at 08:29

Monday, Sep 16, 2013 at 08:29
Yeah i know, i think you might be confused about that. He has two utes that have corrosion in the chassis at 10000ks . While i havent read every single page of it i havent seen anything about him wanting Toyota to swap them for VX utes which AFAIK do not exist?
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Monday, Sep 16, 2013 at 08:34

Monday, Sep 16, 2013 at 08:34
fisho I am talking about the "ohwhatalemon.com" website that started about his GXL 200 series landcruiser. 200 Sedan, not ute.

What site are you referring to?

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Reply By: Member - Boobook - Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 06:26

Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 06:26
I have quite a few accessories which increase the fuel use.

I get 12 on the road, 15 - 16 around town, and 14 - 15 towing about 1.2 tons and fully loaded at 105 - 110kmph.

Ignore all feedback from non owners about oil use, and other problems of their friend's friend's car or other 200's they see on the road, they are generally just ill informed advice. The oil use issue is over 5 years old and was fixed by Toyota in 2009. Mine used 1l per 4000km in 2008 and Toyota fixed it for free. I am not sure why but there is a lot of bad / outdated advice on this forum from non owners, I guess Nissan 3.0 and LR owners experience the same thing. Check out Lcool for feedback from around 1500 real 200 owners.

In a survey on that site, 97% of owners said they would buy one again. That has to be a better indicator than feedback from someone who parked next to one at a Caravan Park.

The thing I will say is it gets good economy unless you drive it hard, then it drinks. The biggest problem is that it goes like a bat out of hell when you put the foot down so it is hard to resist.

The best 4wd or car I have ever owned.
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Follow Up By: member - mazcan - Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 13:54

Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 13:54
hi boo-book
if you come to W.A be warned the towing speed limit on all wa roads is 100 k/p/hr max I have noticed in recent weeks several eastern states drivers exceeding the 100 limit on out rds hope they get pinged as there is no excuse other than ignorance

although I must admit the authorities over here have very few signs along the rds in the state advising of the 100 towing limit

perhaps your quote of 105-110 refers to NT
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 15:40

Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 15:40
OMG I promise to keep to your speed limit. Promise.

Perhaps I am talking about 110 kmph speed limits in Vic, SA, and NSW or NT.

I haven't been to WA in my vehicle.

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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Sunday, Sep 15, 2013 at 23:38

Sunday, Sep 15, 2013 at 23:38
be warned Boobook you naughty boy.
You have been told by Mazcan so you have no excuse if you ever come here

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Reply By: Member - Rich - Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 06:48

Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 06:48
Many thanks to all.

I have looked at LCOOL, it is a bit overwhelming if any thing but a good source of info.

The info above is useful and gives me an idea.

I have never driven one but will do so soon.

Rich
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony H (touring oz) - Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 08:34

Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 08:34
Hi Rich,
If you take one for a test drive I can almost guarrantee....... you'll be buying one.....
I also agree with Boobooks comments above.
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Follow Up By: Kyle H - Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 08:43

Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 08:43
G'day Rich
I have a 2010 GLX and it has always used about 2 litres of oil between 10K services but only when towing. When standard highway fuel consumption was reasonable at around 11 ltrs not towing 16 / 17 towing. Modified with roofracks , drawers, 33"tyres, bulbar, winch and snorkel consumption increased to 12.5 ltrs not towing 18 / 20 towing. With the warranty now finished I have recently fitted a chip, exhaust larger intercooler fuel consumption has reduced to
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Follow Up By: Kyle H - Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 19:07

Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 19:07
Ooops finger problems.
With chip exhaust and larger intercooler consumption is better around 12 not towing and 17 to 19 towing. Would I buy another one, you bet ya it currently drives like a 2.8 tonne WRX without the road handling.
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Follow Up By: Member - Rich - Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 19:50

Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 19:50
I hope to drive one soon.

Got to see how my wife handles it as well. The V8 power will appeal as she is more a rev head than me. I am sure I will have to keep telling her to slow down.

I am just retired and am looking for a vehicle to last a long time while i tour this great country. I doubt I will be able to afford another new one.
I have looked at Land Rovers which are great to drive, I have driven one, and they get a lot better economy, which does mount up over time. But as I travel around, which I am doing at the moment I do not see that many LR on the road, except when I went to Melbourne. In the caravan park I am in at the moment LAnd Cruisers seem to be the majority.
So longevity and maintenance costs are also important to me.

Just last week I got to sit in an LC and was surprised how comfy they were as well.

Richard

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Reply By: Shaver - Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 12:07

Saturday, Sep 14, 2013 at 12:07
You fail to mention Petrol or Diesel ! But seeing you are towing I surmise it to be diesel although there are quiete a few towing with petrol also. I don't tow with my 200 / 4.7 & get between 12.5 & 13lph on a trip. The newer 4.6 petrol has a 6 speed auto, is more powerfull & more economical I believe.
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Reply By: 410 - Monday, Sep 16, 2013 at 15:00

Monday, Sep 16, 2013 at 15:00
Hi Rich
LC 200 GX Diesel 2012
We have just completed a 5mth, 20,000km trip around towing a van with a weight of around 2.8t and 30ft long ( from tow hitch - bumper) and about 3 mtrs in height. We sat on speeds from 90-100km and averaged 21L/100. I spoke to plenty with 200's and this was the same answer. As said it is a great tow vehicle for a big van and the economy is pretty good considering your driving a vehicle itself weighing nearly 3 t with all the extra's.

Richard
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Follow Up By: peterinwoodend - Tuesday, Sep 17, 2013 at 23:13

Tuesday, Sep 17, 2013 at 23:13
Hi Guys, I am about to buy a GX or GXL LC 200, Have read this forum with interest. Rich has just completed his 20,000km fantastic trip with clear data. I am a bit miffed by everyones expectations
$100,000 for a basically kitted new land cruiser and a $50,000 for a new van (conservative these days), a 4.5L V8TTD pushing 5 tonnes
Wouldn't you expect a crap load of fuel being burnt.
isn't the fuel irrelevant, the intangible benefits of outback travel cover it all. I am not sure why you are worried about in comparison a small amount
I am a financial adviser and i have done spreadsheets that confirm we are all mad !!! Spend money like water, drive for hundreds of Km's if not thousands to get somewhere and then drive home, when we could of flown, hired a vehicle and stayed at a resort for less than half of what we have spent

But hey, the intangibles, its what makes us mad and its all good. When I study mortality rates and causes, and events at particular ages, all I can say is

Get your LC200 TTD and get out there, and have fun !!! we all have a finite time on this planet, for many they don't even get to retire, don't worry about the fuel, do it, get out there, no time for spreadsheets, analysis and forums

If you have retired at 65, you have on average 16 years to go, a lady, she's got 19 years. So for a bloke that means 16 summers, 32 half years in the sun and cool (Vic & QLD)
48 school holiday breaks and 832 weekends to go

Funny way to like at life but its true, next week well that's 831
food for thought maybe

Rgs

Peter

PS Don't ever put a UZJ Petrol on Gas.....Gas too aggressive combustion for engine, most die at 150,000Km. New engine from Toyota $22,000 Second hand 5 to $10,000 depending on Kms
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Follow Up By: 410 - Wednesday, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:15

Wednesday, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:15
Hi Peter
Agree with most of your comments only correction to make is you don't have to spend $100k for a cruiser if you look at the GX and depending on what sort of a trip you do there is know need for all the extra's only some. I might be selling my GX soon along with the van. Post your email if interested or if you would like any info.

Regards
Richard
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