Patrol 3.0L class action???

Submitted: Friday, Feb 13, 2004 at 13:54
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Hi,

I've been told that there is a web site where you can register if you have had a Patrol 3.0L with engine problems, and that from this there is a chance that a class action may be taken out against Nissan. Problem is that I can't find it, and believe me I want my name on that list.

My 2000 GU cracked a piston just 11,000 out of warranty and Nissan didn't want to know me. After fixing the 3.0L we decided to change the engine over to a 4.2L Turbo rather than losing money trading it in on one. Five months and $25,000 later I now have the right motor in it, although I could write pages about the whole saga.
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Reply By: Clarry - Friday, Feb 13, 2004 at 14:26

Friday, Feb 13, 2004 at 14:26
Very sorry to hear that AT.... nice to know you can advise hoards of potential buyers in that market sector, on an important forum such as this eh ? A post the other day suggested that the new 3.0's are quite ok - why are they so dismissive on such issues ? What would be wrong with you go the parts and we will do the labour - something like that (or even better)....this elephant never forgets.The car, the boat, the camper, the radios - is that all there is to life ?
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Follow Up By: rolande- Friday, Feb 13, 2004 at 22:51

Friday, Feb 13, 2004 at 22:51
Clarry,
Did AT own the vehicle from new?
Was it an ex-lease vehicle with suspect service history and hard driven?
It is a 2000 model which we all agree had problems, posts refer to much better reliability from current model.
Find it strange that 3lt fixed, then swapped for 4.2 TD, cheaper to trade on 4.2 of same age, but hard to find. I know, I tried
Rolande
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Reply By: jeff-wa - Friday, Feb 13, 2004 at 15:19

Friday, Feb 13, 2004 at 15:19
If you do find that website please post it here, as I know someone who would be very insterested in joing up also.
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Reply By: Dennis (Brisbane) - Friday, Feb 13, 2004 at 16:01

Friday, Feb 13, 2004 at 16:01
This was covered in a previous post, I think the site was in a Yahoo group.

Try a Yahoo search of their groups and look for the word 'patrol'
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Reply By: joshinthecity - Friday, Feb 13, 2004 at 16:03

Friday, Feb 13, 2004 at 16:03
Hang on a minute. let me get this straight.
your quote
"After fixing the 3.0L we decided to change the engine over to a 4.2L Turbo rather than losing money trading it in on one."

So you had a blown 3.0, had it reconditioned, then bought a new or second-hand 4.2T?
So you have a recon 3.0 in the garage ?

Josh.
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Follow Up By: Brian - Friday, Feb 13, 2004 at 16:31

Friday, Feb 13, 2004 at 16:31
What did nissan offer on the tradein???

Brian
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Follow Up By: DavidAT - Saturday, Feb 14, 2004 at 09:47

Saturday, Feb 14, 2004 at 09:47
Hi Josh
That's right... I've got the 3.0L in the shed... it's done about 1200km since rebuild, new turbo also.... AND YES... IT'S FOR SALE.
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Follow Up By: DavidAT - Saturday, Feb 14, 2004 at 09:53

Saturday, Feb 14, 2004 at 09:53
Hi Brian,

You wouldn't want to know what they offered trade. Let's just say that if I said what I think of Nissan Aust. and the people that work for them I'd probably find myself in court. We love the vehicle, just hated the 3.0L motor, we'd already spent money on it (lift kit and accessories) so figured if we did the change over at least we wouldn't be paying interest on the money it cost, where as if we had traded out of it we would have financed the loss. Bit hard to understand I know but it worked out pretty evenly weighted either way, the only factor we didn't account for was the five months from start to finish that we were without it.
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Follow Up By: Brian - Sunday, Feb 15, 2004 at 01:30

Sunday, Feb 15, 2004 at 01:30
David the reason I asked was that if Nissan are not willing to offer a deacent trade in on the 3.0l then it would seam that they are acknowledging that it has problems in the most important way.... not willing to buy them back!!!!!!

Brian
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Reply By: towbar - Friday, Feb 13, 2004 at 16:35

Friday, Feb 13, 2004 at 16:35
the 3.0ltr problems seem to be common place .Inlaws boss had a patrol 3.0ltr bleep itself 14000km outside warranty period.had been serviced from new by nissan.BUY A CRUISER!
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Follow Up By: joshinthecity - Friday, Feb 13, 2004 at 16:55

Friday, Feb 13, 2004 at 16:55
or you could always buy a "fixed" 3.0 and keep 20k + in the bank.
We are still looking for a series 3 with engine problems. No one has reported any yet.

Josh.

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Follow Up By: rolande- Friday, Feb 13, 2004 at 22:45

Friday, Feb 13, 2004 at 22:45
Towbar,
Why do 'cruiser enthusiasts insist on comparing the 3lt with a LC. Toyota don't have a direct competitor in this market unless you consider the Prado, Pick the faults with the 4.2 TD6. Remember "apples and oranges"!
Rolande
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Reply By: Old Johno - Friday, Feb 13, 2004 at 17:52

Friday, Feb 13, 2004 at 17:52
DavidAT,

What State do you reside in as I have had my motor replaced by Nissan out of warranty. I know that Dept of Fair Trading is very aware of this problem with 3.0Litre Patrols & they will go to bat for you - and they feel they will be successful

Have a Good One
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Follow Up By: DavidAT - Saturday, Feb 14, 2004 at 09:56

Saturday, Feb 14, 2004 at 09:56
I'm in NSW. We did contact the Dept of Fair Trading but the person we spoke to was not of much use.
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Follow Up By: Old Johno - Monday, Feb 16, 2004 at 09:37

Monday, Feb 16, 2004 at 09:37
DavidAT,

Try the Motor section of the Fair Trading, ask for the supivisor if you are not happy, I did and had very good results

Have a Good one
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Reply By: Peter - Friday, Feb 13, 2004 at 21:40

Friday, Feb 13, 2004 at 21:40
The yahoo group is to be found at: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Patrol4WD/

Could be worth taking out the extra 2 years waranty

Peter
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Saturday, Feb 14, 2004 at 09:57

Saturday, Feb 14, 2004 at 09:57
I took out the extra twi years, $750 insurance for 2 years isnt too bad but you shouldnt have to do it, only reason I did is cause of the engine probsIf you hold your heart and focus,
you will end up holding your dream
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Follow Up By: DavidAT - Saturday, Feb 14, 2004 at 09:58

Saturday, Feb 14, 2004 at 09:58
Thanks Peter, will look it up and hope it gets me some results. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, I would have had I known.
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Follow Up By: DavidAT - Saturday, Feb 14, 2004 at 10:01

Saturday, Feb 14, 2004 at 10:01
Exactly Bonz! When you buy a $60,000 vehicle from a reputable car manufacturer you don't expect things like this to happen.... It's not like your buying a Kia or a Daewoo! Any if anything goes wrong you would thing the manufacturer would stand by his product.
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Reply By: Andrew - Saturday, Feb 14, 2004 at 00:49

Saturday, Feb 14, 2004 at 00:49
Getting a bit ahead of ourselves here fellas.

There is a poll on the Patrol Group for OWNERS/ex OWNERS of 3.0TDi Patrols to see how big a problem its been. So far its not showing many failures and any talk of a class action is very premature and could not/would not be organised by that group.

Hope this clears things up.
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Follow Up By: DavidAT - Saturday, Feb 14, 2004 at 10:03

Saturday, Feb 14, 2004 at 10:03
Hey what sort of 4b do you own Andrew?
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Follow Up By: Andrew - Saturday, Feb 14, 2004 at 10:25

Saturday, Feb 14, 2004 at 10:25
GU Patrol ST 4.2TD
my website
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Saturday, Feb 14, 2004 at 23:39

Saturday, Feb 14, 2004 at 23:39
And he loves braggin to 3ltr owners that its better than theirs..
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Follow Up By: Roly - Sunday, Feb 15, 2004 at 21:54

Sunday, Feb 15, 2004 at 21:54
bruce

you are the oworst offender of the lot

you have ZERO 1st hand experience or knowledge of the ZD30 at all....

disinformation.org strikes again

Andrew doesnt brag about anthing on the other hand
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Feb 16, 2004 at 23:06

Monday, Feb 16, 2004 at 23:06
Roly,

Im the biggest offender? You open your mouth, then panic when someoen quotes you...

Your the biggest offender, you brag how much of a bleep box your car is when it dies, and your selling it **** nissan they can shove it... Had enough getting a Cruiser, getting this getting that...

First hand experience, Plenty listening to you and Steve, and Nutha bloke in our club who traded his in last week(his was 2-4th on the country), picks up his cruiser 2 weeks time, and quite happy to have not made the mistake others have...

And the Bragging was in Andrews OWN words .
I quote.

ANDREW: got 2 guys in my club. 1 auto, 1 manual
ANDREW: after embarrassing them totally offroad I threw the keys to the one with the manual. He came back 10 minutes later almost crying that he we was locked into a 3 year lease. he bleep ing hates his now. loved it right up until he drove a real one

and

ANDREW: classic case: robe this year. boys having trouble getting up steep beach exit with bend half way up. I told them you need to get off the power at the bend then get straight back onto it. They both replied the same: they cant! once its off boost it wont spool back up under load...
ANDREW: I showed them 3 times how to do it - coz Im a ****....

Sorry to make you look like a fool again....
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Follow Up By: Andrew - Tuesday, Feb 17, 2004 at 08:07

Tuesday, Feb 17, 2004 at 08:07
Quoting sections from a private conversation is pretty poor form Bruce, especially when it has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. If this thread was about “why the 3.0 Patrol needs a dtronic” then it might be relevant. Please don’t involve me in your sandpit wars.
All of the guys in my club with 3.0 Patrols are very happy with them, its only when driving/riding in my 4.2 that they realise how lacking theirs are at low revs in heavy sand or rock climbing. They certainly aren’t getting suicidal over it though.
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Follow Up By: DavidAT - Tuesday, Feb 17, 2004 at 08:43

Tuesday, Feb 17, 2004 at 08:43
I hate to get in the middle of your battle but couldn't help myself.
If Andrew owns a 4.2 just what "first hand" experience does HE have with the 3.0L??? I'm not up to speed with you all but I do know this...
Anyone who denies the 3.0L have problems is blind or uninformed! Maybe you will understand this... When you own a old VW Beetle you drive around and you see them absolutely everywhere, untill you owned one you never even noticed them. Same goes with this situation... if you have had a 3.0L with problems you suddenly find that when you look around they are everywhere (and not just in Nissan workshops!) and these are not minor problems either. Perhaps you would find Andrew that if you were talking to the right people and actually listening to what they say that you might have a different opinion. Especially if you had been affected by it all in the hip pocket where it hurts.
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Follow Up By: Andrew - Tuesday, Feb 17, 2004 at 09:05

Tuesday, Feb 17, 2004 at 09:05
David
My sole contribution to this thread was to point out that the poll on Patrol4WD group was not related to a rumoured class action, although it does give owners a chance to share knowledge of ownership problems. I don’t think anyone is denying that there is a big problem with 3.0 engines built in the first 6 months. My knowledge of the 3.0 is based on several years as a member of Patrol4WD group and other forums and four wheeling with owners. The difficulty is separating the wheat from the chaff on the internet.
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Reply By: Michael - Monday, Feb 16, 2004 at 10:00

Monday, Feb 16, 2004 at 10:00
Hi All, I'm on to my second 4.2 td Gu ... and lovinn it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Follow Up By: DavidAT - Monday, Feb 16, 2004 at 10:18

Monday, Feb 16, 2004 at 10:18
Well I don't think I'll make it into a second one..... the amount I've spent on this one I've been told I'm gonna be buried in it! Just as well I look after my gear!
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Reply By: Pete G - Tuesday, Feb 24, 2004 at 23:22

Tuesday, Feb 24, 2004 at 23:22
David,
Mine (2000 MODEL) was replaced under warranty at 140k's - original owner with history of Nissan service. Just on 3 yrs old. To all of the detractors I think that the 3.0 litre has it all over on the highway and they do a mighty job offroad except that rpm,s must be kept above 2000 against the 4.2 where they can be bogged down to 1000. It is all a compromise worth about $7000 in new price and relative to your perceived needs.

Regards

Pete G
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