Landcruiser brake problems

Submitted: Saturday, Feb 14, 2004 at 23:49
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I recently had my Cruiser serviced by a Tojo dealer and mentioned that he might have a look the brakes/suspension as there was a slight, perceptible judder when braking moderateley hard at anything over 45kmh. Following the service they informed me that "the brake discs have 'run out' and require machning". My reply was unprintable - the Cruiser has done only 55,000 kms. It's a year 2000 manual diesel and the brakes don't cop that much punishment. It's done no bush work and is used mainly on bitumen. Is this a known problem with GXL Cruisers? I was truck mechanic about 25 years ago and I feel this is a ridiculously low mileage to require machining of brake rotors. Thanks.
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Saturday, Feb 14, 2004 at 23:58

Saturday, Feb 14, 2004 at 23:58
Get a second Opinion,on the runout, get them to show you the runout. Might also see if the tyres are out of round or have a flat spot.

Wayne
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Reply By: Bilbo - Sunday, Feb 15, 2004 at 00:10

Sunday, Feb 15, 2004 at 00:10
Wayne, thanks for the reply. Like you suggest, I'll be getting a second opinion - mine!. I used to be a mechanic years ago but I hate doing anything with cars 'n truck these days - I like my clean hands management job. But I'll get my hands dirty on this occasion 'cos I hate service people that treat others like fools. This just doesn't sound right to me. However, these days, one never knows- quality control seems lacking. I asked the question just to see if it was a known widespread problem. Thanks again.
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Reply By: Member Eric - Sunday, Feb 15, 2004 at 00:31

Sunday, Feb 15, 2004 at 00:31
I would be happy that they only had run out . Some cars need new discs at 55,000 kms due to soft material . Dont forget they used smaller discs on the TD , so it is no suprise to me . You can warp your discs through a deep puddle , you dont need to go bush to do it .Venus Bay
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Reply By: Bilbo - Sunday, Feb 15, 2004 at 02:12

Sunday, Feb 15, 2004 at 02:12
Eric,Thanks for the info. Seems like it could be a widespread problem. There's Toyota Extended Factory Warranty on this vehicle. Might give Toyota a call on this. But after reading some of the problems with Toyota not honouring claims it could be a long fight. To think, I gave up a bulletproof 1989 Maverick Tray Back for this. Never spent a penny on that truck in 200,000 kms except for regular servicing done by me. 10,000 kms I've done with this 2nd hand Cruiser and already spending money on it. Unimpressed thus far with Landcruisers.
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Monday, Feb 16, 2004 at 22:58

Monday, Feb 16, 2004 at 22:58
There is no car company that will warranty your brake discs or pads , the only break compnents they will cover is lines master and booster Venus Bay
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Monday, Feb 16, 2004 at 22:59

Monday, Feb 16, 2004 at 22:59
Just noticed , you said you purchased this car second hand ?

well you dont know how hard it was driven , or are the kms real Venus Bay
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Reply By: Diamond(due to duck season) - Sunday, Feb 15, 2004 at 11:04

Sunday, Feb 15, 2004 at 11:04
gday bilbo.
55000ks not to bad.for a fourby.
i have replaced heaps of rotors(not cruiser)with less ks than that.
softer disks and harder pads.
dont forget they can machine on vehicle now saves heaps and heaps on removal labour costs.
cheersdue to duck season coming
ive decided to hide out
love jemima puddle duck
back after the season
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Reply By: ianmc - Sunday, Feb 15, 2004 at 11:25

Sunday, Feb 15, 2004 at 11:25
Hey fellas! 55,000 kms for discs! Maybe with hard mountain terrain daily!
Front discs on my Triton are up to 220,000 kms and look good for over 300,000.
Rear drums not so good & look like needing first replacement maybe later this year.
I do not do lots of city traffic work.
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Reply By: Jemima - Sunday, Feb 15, 2004 at 12:27

Sunday, Feb 15, 2004 at 12:27
mine have been done machined that is once and has only 100000klm's on the clock
still doing it and i have learnt to live with it

And who is the imposter above!!!!!!
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Follow Up By: Diamond(due to duck season) - Sunday, Feb 15, 2004 at 20:19

Sunday, Feb 15, 2004 at 20:19
whos the imposter loldue to duck season coming
ive decided to hide out
love jemima puddle duck
back after the season
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Follow Up By: Jemima - Monday, Feb 16, 2004 at 07:45

Monday, Feb 16, 2004 at 07:45
hey you! yeah you you imposter
tis a good thing you are in hiding The real Jemima.
Where is that Imposter hiding
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Follow Up By: Diamond(due to duck season) - Monday, Feb 16, 2004 at 12:48

Monday, Feb 16, 2004 at 12:48
duck season will soon be over then ill be out of hiding then and only then will we find out who is the imposter.
i think you should go into hiding soon lolol.
quack quack quack due to duck season coming
ive decided to hide out
love jemima puddle duck
back after the season
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Follow Up By: Jemima - Monday, Feb 16, 2004 at 18:30

Monday, Feb 16, 2004 at 18:30
I'm beautiful
I dont need to hide
They dont shoot good lookin ducks like me...but you...well your a different story
quack!The real Jemima.
Where is that Imposter hiding
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Sunday, Feb 15, 2004 at 13:24

Sunday, Feb 15, 2004 at 13:24
Hi Bilbo
Unfortunately, the poor discs take some punishment on the cruisers, with 4 pot callipers on the front, and the extra weight a 100 carries around. You dont mention if it is t/d or auto, but my 80 petrol auto loves to warp the discs, because they work so hard pulling the cruiser up..... And i am slack when i come to creeks, and dont stop to let them cool.
For what its worth, the answer you got sounds to me like xray vision, or a guess on the most common cause of the defect, but your defect can also be caused from loose wheel bearings too. Most shops like to do the discs with new pads so there is less chance of a dissatisfied customer.(and they can charge more too)
If you were wanting to check your discs for out of round yourself, it can be done by sight with one front wheel off, looking at the gap between the pad and disc as it rotates.
Andrew
Andrewwheredayathinkwer mike?
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Follow Up By: Member - George (WA) - Sunday, Feb 15, 2004 at 20:59

Sunday, Feb 15, 2004 at 20:59
Done 240,000 km in my 8o series cruiser, turbo diesel, had the front discs machined at 200,000 because it developed a slight shudder when applying the brakes, no problems after thatKing Edward River, Mitchell Plateau
VKS-737, ch 2, sel. 2131
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Reply By: Kiwi Ray - Monday, Feb 16, 2004 at 15:31

Monday, Feb 16, 2004 at 15:31
Hi
You still have a better truck with a Cruiser
Disc macining is cheap and check that the pads do not have any hard spots.
Cold water and hot discs do not go well together
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Follow Up By: Bilbo - Monday, Feb 16, 2004 at 23:22

Monday, Feb 16, 2004 at 23:22
Thanks to all. On Balance - It seems it is a known problem with LCs. This is a 2ndhand vehicle, it's a 2000 TD manual turbo, the mileage is genuine at 55000 kms, it has done little or no off road work, it was used in Sydney traffic as an 'exec' car and doesn't seem to like cold water!! B****Y Toyotas! Thanks for all of your replies.

Bilbo
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