CSR & Simpson Desert

Submitted: Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 15:26
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Just wondering if crossing the Simpson West to East is a hard slog. Did the Canning Stock Route last year, Halls Creek to Wiluna - it was a great journey, two vehicles, well prepared so no major problems. Any tips will be appreciated. M & B
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Reply By: Alloy c/t - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 15:33

Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 15:33
It is generally considered 'easier' west to east as to the dune's cresting like a wave due to the predominant wind direction…..
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Reply By: B1B2 - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 16:03

Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 16:03
Muriel,
You will have no problems. We have come across travellers without a uhf radio travelling the opposite way, so the usual dune flag, and caution at the top of dunes.

Enjoy the Trip

Bill
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Follow Up By: Phil P - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 17:44

Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 17:44
It's easier than the CSR in that it's much shorter distance. Usual common sense rules apply (appropriate tyre pressures, well set up vehicle etc)

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Follow Up By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 19:42

Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 19:42
agree - piece of the proverbial p compared to the Canning - on the Simpson all the approaches are perpendicular to the dune.
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Reply By: Member - John and Val - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 17:54

Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 17:54
Hi Muriel,

As others have said, its much shorter than CSR, so fewer provisions needed, and less variety in the landscape. Also the approach to most dunes is direct without the jinking so common on the approach to many of the Canning dunes, and most of the dunes are of the up-and-over variety unlike some of the double and triple headed Canning dunes. But the swales can be corrugated just like the CSR!

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Reply By: Robin Miller - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 18:32

Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 18:32
The dunes on the Simpson are both higher and harder on average than the Canning Muriel and Canning has no Dunes to match Big Red and a few others.

As per other poster,s going from west to east is generally easier on Simpson but there can be many dunes with cut up long approaches that have always made a few cars have 2nd runs on the many times we have crossed.

Your average Patrol type car without lift and with tyres to 15psi will be able to cross it ok , but you can count on ones concentration slipping an hence requiring a second run occasionally.
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Reply By: Les PK Ranger - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 18:46

Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 18:46
Did the Simmo in the past 2 weeks, 4 days, FL, Rig, WAA, Lone Gum, Rig again, then up Knolls to Poepells / QAA.

All easy, only vehicles to get stuck were larger loaded cruisers and a patrol (in our group of 10).
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Follow Up By: Member - DingoBlue(WA) - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 19:23

Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 19:23
Did same route as you. 4 days all up. Fully loaded 105 series, tyres at 18psi. No problems whatsoever. Simpson is an easy drive compared to the Canning which is a little rough in places (either side of Kunawarritji).
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Follow Up By: Member - John and Val - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 20:06

Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 20:06
Dingoblue,

Agree with much of what you say....... but....... ".....the Canning which is a little rough in places (either side of Kunawarritji)".

a LITTLE rough?? ........

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Follow Up By: Member - DingoBlue(WA) - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 21:26

Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 21:26
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Reply By: duck - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 20:36

Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 20:36
Just check the times/date that you cross last year arrived at big red, only to be able to use the bypass due to the bash (concert) I did not care as I had crossed big red several times but met others that felt they had not crossed until they did big red
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Reply By: D-Jack - Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 23:50

Thursday, May 01, 2014 at 23:50
Got back 2 weeks ago too....we went East to West as the Western Roads in were initially closed. East to West is supposed to be harder I thought.. did it all in high range in the Triton
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Follow Up By: Les PK Ranger - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 08:03

Friday, May 02, 2014 at 08:03
D-Jack, East - West was our plan B.
We must have headed out a couple of days after you perhaps, left Mt Dare on the 20th.

Don't recall seeing a Triton coming the other way, which way'd you go ?
Mind you, we saw maybe total of only 5 other vehicles on the whole crossing, well, until Big Red where there were a few there (still maybe only another 5 or 6 vehicles and a couple of bikes).
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Follow Up By: D-Jack - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 16:38

Friday, May 02, 2014 at 16:38
I reckon we saw u guys - we made it to Mt Dare and stayed there Friday night and I reckon we saw your group as we were heading out from Mt Dare, you guys were coming in...that If my research on the net is correct and you drive a newer model charcoal Ranger with canvas canopy?? We were a group of 4, White Triton, Black Hilux, Blue Jackaroo and Silver older Hilux (although colours hard to tell due to the mud) stopped on the dirt road into Mt Dare airing up.. maybe mid morning on Easter Saturday. We only crossed paths with 2 groups, one of which was heading back after already crossing east-west! You with 4x4 earth maybe??
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Follow Up By: Les PK Ranger - Friday, May 02, 2014 at 16:49

Friday, May 02, 2014 at 16:49
Hey, cool D-Jack, wish we'd known and had a chat as we crossed paths.
Yep Sat night had dinner in the pub and overnighted there.

Mine's the PK model with hard canopy, that would have been Bart in the NSW rego PX equivalent Ranger (a nice setup too).

Yep, 4x4 Earth :)

TR here . . . http://www.4x4earth.com.au/forum/sa-trip-reports/30303-simpson-desert-trip-easter-2014-trip-report.html

My side trip reports and some pics page 3.

My pics here . . . https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/106964412619734833356/albums/6007119001847277281

All those detours coming in Sat, got in around noon, and a few of us headed out and did Old Andado side trip from 1300 - 1730.

Was a great crossing, looking forward to E- W, there was talk of it in the first few pages of the TR, lol.
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