Tyre pressure monitoring system
Submitted: Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 18:47
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Member - Ken F3
Hi Everyone, could someone please help and give me some good advice on a quality tyre pressure monitoring system as I got caught out yesterday and wrecked a good tyre.They are to expensive to replace and any pre-warning I could get would help me save a few dollars. Ken
Reply By: Member - Jim B8 - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 18:59
Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 18:59
Whatever you buy, make sure you can actually hear the alarm,
mine is so high pitched, I cant hear it. My hearing isn't the best for high frequencies. Good in principle, but not always useful, for me
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 21:49
Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 21:49
A very good point Jim. Difficult though to experience the alarm volume before purchase.
I have the Inawise system with internal sensors and has twice saved a tyre.
I also found the alarm too quiet and added a small amplifier and speaker. Just the other day though I modified the unit by drilling a 12mm hole adjacent to the piezo buzzer to allow the sound out of the case and did away with the amplifier. I have yet to produce an alarm to
test it.
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Follow Up By: two_ks - Thursday, Jun 19, 2014 at 01:33
Thursday, Jun 19, 2014 at 01:33
ken F3'
another positive for Inawise internal system, bought 8 tyre set, 5 for the 79 series land cruiser and 3 on the Gold stream camper.
cab unit detects trailer tyres 35 meters!!!
Ken
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Reply By: The Landy - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 20:35
Reply By: AlbyNSW - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 21:24
Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 21:24
I currently have the Inawise internal system and have had no issues in the 18months I have owned it and very happy with its ease of use and accuracy. Prior to that I had the external Tyredog system that was fine too but one of the sensors broke when hit by a
rock so thought I would change to an internal system
The internal ones are better protected against damage and possible water ingress plus give a more accurate temp reading.
When looking at the various options a couple of things to consider:
-Ease of reading display and also some only display one tyre pressure at a time and scroll through them others show all sensor readings at once which I think is better
-Ease of resetting base tyre pressure when you air down or up for various conditions
-How they calibrate the high or low pressure warning system, some operate on a set Psi difference, others work on a percentage difference of the set base Psi
-cost to replace damaged sensors should you need to, some are overly expensive
- whether you need an expandable system for towing a trailer etc
Hope that helps you,they are a great accessory and pay for themselves over and over again
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 21:55
Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 21:55
One other point, do your research on line and ring the importer/ distributors direct to get information as I found the local tyre shops and retailers where useless as far as product knowledge goes.
I bought my inawise system direct from the distributor
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 21:56
Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014 at 21:56
Alby, I also started with a Tyre Dog with external sensors mounted on the valve stems. Two sensors failed within 1000k on bitumen.
I replaced it with an Inawise internal sensor type and have saved two tyres.
I really like the Inawise readout and the ease of a simple switch to adjust the alarm point when running on reduced tyre pressure.
I have an issue though with the loudness of the alarm. See my comments above in answering Jim.
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 06:33
Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 06:33
Agreed Alan, am very happy with the function of the Inawise also and would happily purchase again
Can't say I have an issue with the alarm sound though, it is not overly loud but quite audible just the same. I have
mine mounted on top of the steering column with Velcro tape ( I did not use the supplied mount) so maybe that has made it louder?
Just one other point, after talking with the distributor I went with the standard unit not their 4 WD version as the calibration method works a better way I think at lower pressures
The representative I spoke to was also a 4WD'er and he alerted me to the issue
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 08:58
Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 08:58
Alby, I just took a new look at the Inawise instructions on their website and can see changes to the model I purchased several years ago. Perhaps the sound output has also been improved.
I appreciate your considerations about the 4WD model and the range setting which is less precise than the regular model. However, I find it adequate and simpler, possibly due to my laziness!
One other point about the Inawise is their installation & operating manual. It is perhaps the absolute best of any of the thousands I have seen and a credit to them in this day of translated instructions written in 'Chinglish'. Even the most intelligent amongst us would have no trouble following them! LOL
Their instructions can be viewed
here. (
4WD version here)
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 10:27
Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 10:27
Alan visually
mine is identical to yours and understand that it is identical in function as
well.
The only difference is that
mine (model number 201? from memory) alerts you when your pressure drops below 20% of your set baseline Psi whereas the 4WD version has a preset low pressure setting of 11.6 psi before giving a warning according to item 6 in the instruction book.
Not that big a deal but a noteworthy difference in deciding what suits your needs best.
And agree the instructions are excellent.
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Member, SunCoast) - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 13:00
Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 13:00
Yes Alby, I agree that there is a limitation in the 4WD model in respect to preferred alarm pressures. The Off-Road setting of 11.6 limits its use to pressures above that so it's no use if wanting to run at say 10psi in soft sand. The On-Road setting of 27.5psi limits my dirt track setting to 28psi or higher. Fortunately that is my usual preferred pressure so no problems but it would be better to have flexibility. If I were to use the Off-Road setting for dirt tracks then I would get no alarm until 11.6psi which is a bit late.
The fully adjustable Baseline Setting feature (with warning at 20% below set baseline) was not available when I bought my model so had no choice but if it were now I would choose that TPMS-201-D-V2 model. (I guess the "V2" designates "Version 2") Setting the baseline appears simpler than in some competitive products.
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Reply By: ABR - SIDEWINDER - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 09:50
Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 09:50
Hi Ken
We do a 4 tyre and large system up to 22 tyres.
Email me for some info.
Regards
Derek from ABR
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Follow Up By: ABR - SIDEWINDER - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 09:52
Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 09:52
MV4 system
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Follow Up By: ABR - SIDEWINDER - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 09:53
Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 09:53
MV4
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Follow Up By: ABR - SIDEWINDER - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 09:55
Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 09:55
Well that's not working.
Try here:
MV4 Test
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Reply By: Krooznalong - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 13:24
Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 13:24
Ken
I have Derek's TPMS - good value when compared to similar brand name ones. No problems to date.
One issue to bear in mind with these (and presumably any external type) is that they wobble around (something I didn't really think about in advance) and they've marked my rims (alloy).
I've now made a collar which I hope will stabilise them.
Despite the obvious bashing they've suffered from whacking the rim, they continue to perform faultlessly.
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Follow Up By: Member - Keith P (NSW) - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 18:09
Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 18:09
I have a Tyredog system which has been pretty trouble free after 3 and a bit years...once the correct one was installed.
Had the same issue with the sender units stretching out and contacting the rims under the centrifugal force of spinning wheel too,,,,so my solution was to install short steel valve stems....problem solved. Also the short ones locate the senders inside the rim a bit and protect them a bit better. Also have wound 3 turns of insulation tape around each sender....just for a little more protection as
well
Cheers Keith
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 18:33
Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 18:33
Keith a short piece of heat shrink instead of tape works
well on the Toughdog type ones as
well
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 18:33
Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 18:33
Ken,
There is a couple of comprehensive
blogs on TPMS systems, a couple brands which Mick O has tested and a TPMS Australia brand which I have also commented on.
One recommendation I can make after my just completed trip to the
Kimberley and back.
If you intend doing a lot of off road driving, invest in a system with internal sensors.
I had a hassle
airing down and up and down and up and having to "unlock" the external sensors with an Allen key each time. A royal PITA!
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Follow Up By: The Landy - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 18:43
Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 18:43
Hi Bill
I've never locked
mine, and never had one taken.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Peter Schrader - Tuesday, Jun 24, 2014 at 20:21
Tuesday, Jun 24, 2014 at 20:21
I lost two sensors on corrugated roads because I didn't fit the locking collars. I carry an allen key now.
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Reply By: Member - kyle46 - Wednesday, Jun 18, 2014 at 21:02
Reply By: ABR - SIDEWINDER - Tuesday, Jun 24, 2014 at 14:46
Tuesday, Jun 24, 2014 at 14:46
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Follow Up By: ABR - SIDEWINDER - Tuesday, Jun 24, 2014 at 14:47
Tuesday, Jun 24, 2014 at 14:47
This is the sound of the alarm.
Regards
Derek
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Reply By: Member - Wildmax - Wednesday, Jun 25, 2014 at 22:35
Wednesday, Jun 25, 2014 at 22:35
If you're thinking of getting TyreDogs - don't !!
Paid around $600 and I've now had them for about three years and three big trips.
Lucky to get 2 or 3 out of 6 wheels reading at any given time.
Supplier was co-operative and replaced a couple of sensors after trip one, under warranty, but really not much better now. Though I guess knowing what is happening with 3 wheels is better than none!
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