Do you know these people.

Submitted: Sunday, Nov 30, 2014 at 22:13
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Last night a couple decided to graffiti the Daly Waters pub, they were caught on CCTV, this is a copy and paste from their Facebook page.

At the Daly Waters Pub we have a saying some make us happy by arriving and some(just a few) make us even happier by leaving
Yesterday 2 such people booked into the caravan park An Australian female and an Englishman. Car rego U9F901 from West Geelong Vic,
This morning we discovered where they (mainly the male) had graffiti plastered in the beer-garden: on our down pipes,our tables and even the power box. The CCT footage is very clear and identifies them clearly.
Thank-you We spend a lot of time and wages to keep the old pub looking good A member of staff had to scrub it off
I could name you as we have your registration at check in
An apology would be appreciated. It is a fine-able offence. So glad that you are a minority most people have more respect for our property.

We have known Lindsay and Robyn for many years they certainly don't deserve this crap, any way if you know them give them grief.
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Reply By: Member - Joe T (NT) - Sunday, Nov 30, 2014 at 22:43

Sunday, Nov 30, 2014 at 22:43
The rego U9F901 is not valid, it could be unregistered or from other states

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Follow Up By: Steve in Kakadu - Sunday, Nov 30, 2014 at 22:59

Sunday, Nov 30, 2014 at 22:59
It wouldn't surprise me at all, that's what cowards do of coarse.
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Follow Up By: Member - P and JM - Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 08:02

Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 08:02
Going by the numberplate it can only be one of four:
False, Personal/Private, Overseas or Misread.
Have never seen Government issued plates that read like that.
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Follow Up By: Notso - Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 08:23

Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 08:23
Could be UBF901, the 9 and B are quite often confused by people reporting number plates.
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Follow Up By: Steve in Kakadu - Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 08:42

Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 08:42
A member of this site posted on their FB page that this # plate was seen in Tennant Creek the day before, UKF 901, this may not be a coincidence.
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Follow Up By: Member - Joe T (NT) - Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 09:55

Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 09:55
Plate Number UKF901 belongs to a South Australia farmer International Truck

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Follow Up By: Steve in Kakadu - Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 10:15

Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 10:15
I'm guessing it may be missing a number plate or two then. lol
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Follow Up By: Jonty - Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 11:06

Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 11:06
Steve,
We run the c/park in richmond qld. They may be heading this way.
Can you confirm rego and type of vehicle. If i do see them,i will call the local police. hope this is of help.
Cheers.
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Follow Up By: Penchy - Tuesday, Dec 02, 2014 at 12:14

Tuesday, Dec 02, 2014 at 12:14
How do you get that information Joe T?
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Follow Up By: Member - Joe T (NT) - Tuesday, Dec 02, 2014 at 16:40

Tuesday, Dec 02, 2014 at 16:40
Become a Personal Member and I will provide the information for you free

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Follow Up By: Penchy - Tuesday, Dec 02, 2014 at 17:28

Tuesday, Dec 02, 2014 at 17:28
Thanks Joe T but I did not ask if you can get me the info, I asked how did YOU get the info?
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Follow Up By: Member - Fab72 (Paradise SA) - Tuesday, Dec 02, 2014 at 20:22

Tuesday, Dec 02, 2014 at 20:22
Penchy,
EzyReg App on any smart phone. Tells you the type and colour of the vehicle and when the rego runs out.
Great for setting reminders too for when your rego is due.
Fab.
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Follow Up By: Penchy - Tuesday, Dec 02, 2014 at 20:28

Tuesday, Dec 02, 2014 at 20:28
Thanks for your help Fab72, I appreciate you not asking for payment for the info.
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Follow Up By: Member - Fab72 (Paradise SA) - Tuesday, Dec 02, 2014 at 20:30

Tuesday, Dec 02, 2014 at 20:30
The pub has posted the correct rego as OQF901. It's on a late model white Mercedes van...possibly a sprinter.
Fab.
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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Sunday, Nov 30, 2014 at 22:50

Sunday, Nov 30, 2014 at 22:50
Hi Steve

I hope you have informed the Police. I would have them charged and the book thrown at those scum.


Just my thoughts.

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Follow Up By: Steve in Kakadu - Sunday, Nov 30, 2014 at 23:03

Sunday, Nov 30, 2014 at 23:03
They probably have, but these guys are great people the place is great any time of the year, I can't remember ever having a bad time, probably because after a good night there you simply can't remember. LOL
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Follow Up By: Grumblebum and the Dragon - Tuesday, Dec 02, 2014 at 14:08

Tuesday, Dec 02, 2014 at 14:08
Right on - we don't need retards like this travelling around.
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Reply By: OBJ - Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 08:20

Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 08:20
Why not post the video for all to see?
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Reply By: Kumunara (NT) - Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 10:28

Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 10:28
Steve in Kakadu

Daly Waters pub is a place I stop at when travelling to Borroloola. Good food, good service and good people.

It is a shame that a couple of oxygen thieves who have no respect for other people and their property have done this to them. I hope the matter was reported to police and that appropriate action follows.



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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 11:28

Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 11:28
Daly Waters was the very first "outback pub" that we stayed at. And true to out habits back then before the 4WD and camping, we stayed in their comfortable, clean and well kept on site cabin. We were early and so had plenty of time front the bar and meet fellow travelers and the locals. Plenty of stories to show that real Aussie are still around. Some stories were obviously conjured up to pull the "travelers legs but who cared.

We totally enjoyed the stop. The meals were tops and the cook (a BIG Kiwi girl) put her BIG foot down and despite all the grumblings (in jest) from the locals and non Rugby fans we watched a Kiwi verses Australia test game. The Aussies won and the even though the cook was a peeeed off, the food was still as good. Even the "others" got into the swing and backed the Wallabies.

Lets hope these tools get caught and get more than just a pidely community service penalty.
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Follow Up By: Zippo - Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 18:13

Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 18:13
Must have been a loooong time ago when you were there, if the Wallabies actually beat the Kiwis. Can't remember the last time that happened :(
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Reply By: Ron N - Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 13:17

Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 13:17
The police point out, after extensive experience and research, that graffiti crimes are a primary link to other crimes.

So if you have a graffiti merchant playing havoc in your area, he will likely be carrying out, or attempting to carry out, theft and other property crimes, and more than likely doing drugs, too.

As a result, you need to come down hard on graffiti artists.
You need to report graffiti artists and the police need to go through them like a dose of salts when they catch them.

It's not just a simple act of boredom - it's a destructive crime against property, it creates community ill-feeling, it drags an area down, and it costs vast sums every year to clean up.
In addition, you will nearly always find a drug link to graffiti. With drugs, as we all know, there comes robberies to feed their expensive habit - and their graffiti requirements.
So you're liable to have a big increase in spray can & texta theft, and car break-ins and monetary theft, where you have a graffiti artist operating.

In Perth, the W.A. Police have declared war on graffiti artists, and as result of rounding up a swag of these petty crims, they have found that other crimes have reduced as well.
It pays to make their life unliveable and to ensure they are penalised at every opportunity until they make a decision to do something useful with their lives.
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 15:06

Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 15:06
Interesting theory that Ron, can you provide a link to the studies. Seems intuiitive but of course there are a great variety of graffiti types and "perpetrators". Some graffiti is of significant value to the communities and are fabulous urban art, some is straight vandalism with no intrinsic value or redeeming features.
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 16:56

Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 16:56
Bazooka - Here's one study ...

Graffiti triggers crime & littering - study

The UNSW has a long study below, trying to make the case for graffiti as an art form.
I think they fail to understand the difference in attitude between those "graffiti artists" who take pride in their graffiti art works - and which is generally attractive - as compared to the mindless, drug-addled morons who use unsightly "tag" graffiti, purely as a destructive urge outlet.

UNSW - Making the case for legal graffiti as art

Cheers, Ron.
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 17:18

Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 17:18
A better study and outline below. The writer points out the distinction in motivation amongst various graffiti artists and styles, and that a few are geniunely proud of their artistry - but later on, states, "Halsey and Young (2006) found that the majority of graffiti writers had committed, or been involved, in other types of crime."

The simple fact is that virtually all graffiti artists steal all their paint/texta supplies.
Thus, we can immediately identify that they initially suffer from a criminal bent, they fail to appreciate property ownership, and they fail to show respect to both public and private property.
On every measure, they are social misfits, and they produce virtually nothing but angst wherever they travel.

AIC - Key issues in graffiti

The W.A. Police have little tolerance for graffiti and the W.A. Govt has a State Taskforce designed to reduce graffiti to extremely low levels. Seems funny how Singapore has no graffiti!

W.A. Police crack down on graffiti

Goodbye Graffiti - W.A.
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew & Jen - Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 17:26

Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 17:26
Bazooka
The correlation between the group in society who behave in a generally anti-social manner and crime has been established for some time. For example, in an area that I was interested in at the time, there was a research paper published by ARRB in the early 70s that demonstrated the link between anti-social behaviour - DV, graffiti, petty crime, common assault in public places, etc - and road incidents. It showed that the anti-social 8% of society were responsible for 70% of road incidents.
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 17:32

Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 17:32
Thanks Ron. From what I could tell those series of tests have little to do with graffitists and more to do with everyday human responses to certain conditions. It's hardly rocket science to expect that people will tend to litter less in a pristine environment for example. Can't see much application in real life Australia BUT it seems to me that anyone who would tag trains MIGHT have no compunction in carrying out certain other "petty" crime. I still doubt however that there is much of a link between the two demographics suggested.

Funny though we can all easily rationalise our own behaviour when it pleases and I can imagine a tagger chucking off at shoplifters etc because that's "real" anti-social behaviour. I've travelled above the speed limit and jaywalked many times as have probably 90% of the population and as we know both can have far more serious implications in certain circumstances than some moronic tag.
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 17:44

Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 17:44
Seriously Andrew? "Anti-social" people caused 70% of road accidents? That's a "study" I'd like to read because it sounds like total nonsense to me. I wonder how they determined who was "anti-social". I understand the logic (petty crime leads to more serious crime etc) but I think there are (may be) certain mindsets involved in graffiting which might not transfer to other "crime". I'm always wary of generalisations and anecdote in cases like these.
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew & Jen - Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 18:20

Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 18:20
Bazooka
Road incidents, not road accidents.
Incidents would include things such as cutting people off, running red lights, multiple speeding offences, abusing people verbally, etc.
There are clear definitions of anti-social behaviour accepted by professionals working in the area - psychologists, etc. Maybe have a look on the web if you are interested.
The study was undertaken by a senior police officer in Vic and a psychologist if I recall correctly. It was carried out for ARRB (Australian Road Research Board) and was far from "anecdotal" as they had access to official records.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Steve in Kakadu - Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 18:29

Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 18:29
Can we get back to the topic please, this thread is not about the demographic of these people, if it was I would have asked that question thanks.
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Reply By: Bazooka - Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 15:11

Monday, Dec 01, 2014 at 15:11
The fact that they may be driving an unregistered and uninsured vehicle is probably more important than this guy's propensity for vandalism so even if the pub hasn't reported him for their own benefit it would be nice if they did so for the benefit of others.
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Reply By: get outmore - Tuesday, Dec 02, 2014 at 13:46

Tuesday, Dec 02, 2014 at 13:46
people have been plastering the BroadArrow tavern North of kagoolie for many years with Grafiti and no ones cared that much
not many people go for Beer that dont tag some kind of moniker on any free space
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Follow Up By: TomH - Tuesday, Dec 02, 2014 at 17:42

Tuesday, Dec 02, 2014 at 17:42
The difference is that at The Broadie its a tradition and the owners dont mind.

The owners at Daly waters obviously dont want to start a similar tradition and are upset by these ferals.
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Follow Up By: get outmore - Tuesday, Dec 02, 2014 at 20:28

Tuesday, Dec 02, 2014 at 20:28
sorry there isnt a tongue in cheek icon :)
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Reply By: cruza25 - Tuesday, Dec 02, 2014 at 20:30

Tuesday, Dec 02, 2014 at 20:30
OQF901 and its a white mercedes van with a alloy rack on the roof.

They have a photo of it on their facebook page , last seen in Katherine.
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Reply By: The Greta Bunyip - Thursday, Dec 04, 2014 at 12:54

Thursday, Dec 04, 2014 at 12:54
I love how a simple straightforward post like this can get readers up on their soap-boxes about completely unrelated events/topics! So my post is reserved to the actual topic of the post. It's a pity about the pub, what a great spot. When we were up those parts many years ago passengers from 2-3 tourist buses were inside the pub, so it was admittedly a very brief visit!
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Follow Up By: Echucan Bob - Tuesday, Dec 09, 2014 at 16:27

Tuesday, Dec 09, 2014 at 16:27
Did you expect everyone to read the post and just move on?

Its a forum. Participating in a forum isn't getting on your soap box.

I found the comments quite interesting and relevant to the original post.
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