What about the Mitsubishi Triton for towing

Submitted: Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 at 12:25
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I am considering the 2.5 turbo diesel Triton dual can ute. As well as for general use it would be required to tow my 1.2 t GVM pop top caravan and not just for weekends away it would do trips of 10000 kms or more.
Anybody with experience with these vehicles able to advise me of their suitability and reliability.
The Triton and those of a similar price are all I could afford. If these vehicles are not satisfactory then I will make do with my aging 80 series petrol with 380000 on the clock.

One final question; if the Triton is satisfactory then should I choose manual at automatic for best towing ability.

Thank you very much everyone you guys have been a great help in the past
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Reply By: Member - mark D18 - Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 at 14:03

Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 at 14:03
Cruiser 3
Auto
Cheers
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Reply By: Pauly_T - Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 at 15:40

Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 at 15:40
Visit http://www.newtriton.net and ask your questions there. An absolute treasure trove on info as it relates to the ml/mn Triton. In your case MN.

Short answer, yes and auto.

Paul
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Follow Up By: cruiser 3 - Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 at 17:12

Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 at 17:12
Thanks pauly
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Reply By: Sigmund - Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 at 16:19

Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 at 16:19
In Vic the Herald Sun ran a few pieces over the last year by a motoring journo who bought a 2nd hand Triton and went around Oz towing a CT. 40,000 kms, some of them hard. The only failure was a broken bracket on the windscreen washer reservoir. The ARB canopy did have problems though and were fixed under warranty. The guy's name was McKinnon IIRC and he has a web site somewhere.

They do suck up the juice and the front seats are not exactly ergonomic.

You'll come across plenty of warnings to avoid overloading and airbag suspension aids. Frames have cracked.
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Follow Up By: cruiser 3 - Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 at 17:12

Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 at 17:12
Thanks Sigmund
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Follow Up By: Sigmund - Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 at 17:40

Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 at 17:40
Pleasure.

The guy also wrote that overtaking required planning!

The Triton was on my radar for a similar purpose so I maintained a watching brief.

And these days with a TD an auto trans is a lay down misere. They're just so much easier for long trips and perform better for most where there's limited grip.
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Follow Up By: cruiser 3 - Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 at 18:52

Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 at 18:52
Hi Sigmund
I think the auto would give better take off when starting off up hill with the caravan on. I think first gear is fairly high on these modern vehicles.
Not like my first Toyota that towed a broken down Ford Fairlane with a 23 ft caravan connected, able to takeoff in 1st high range easily.
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Follow Up By: cruiser 3 - Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 at 18:55

Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 at 18:55
I should have added that that was taking off halfway up Mt Victoria in the Blue Mountains.
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Follow Up By: Winner W - Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 at 19:02

Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 at 19:02
Before you buy a Triton just take one for a long drive. I had a new 2011 GLXR auto for two years and the drivers seat killed my back after 30 minutes. Even with support and seat spacers myself and my wife and sons all couldn't drive it for more than 90 minutes before they had to swap. It towed my 2.5t boat not too badly and it was good off road and on the beach. It had very few problems and was good value .
Sadly I just needed a dual cab with a decent drivers seat for the long drives and a bit more grunt as the Auto Triton is max torqued at 350nm.
I got a Ranger Wildtrak auto and it is in a different league although I still have my Pajero . The Mitsubishi service was good and the super select 4wd system is better than any other brand.
Good luck with your pleasant problem....
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Follow Up By: cruiser 3 - Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 at 20:18

Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 at 20:18
Thanks Winner W
I welcome your positive comments but wow uncomfortable seating.
makes me appreciate my dear old 80 series that I can drive all day with comfort. I really do think the 80 is a hard act to follow but sadly it is growing old like its owner.
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Follow Up By: Member Andys Adventures - Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 at 20:35

Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 at 20:35
I have factory sport seats in my Triton (MN manual) and a could sit in them all day, no problems.
If you get a manual do not use 5th while towing. I tow a trailer with a quad bike in it and have done 60,000km (most of it on dirt tracks)without a breakdown. And have travelled some of the worst roads/ tracks in Australia.

Cheers
Andy
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Follow Up By: cruiser 3 - Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 at 22:20

Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 at 22:20
Thanks Andy
Your comfort comment is encouraging and so far no really negative comments from anyone.
Sounds like they are a fairly sound vehicle
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Follow Up By: gelatr - Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 at 22:59

Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 at 22:59
I had an 08 Triton for 5 1/2 years and I thought the seats were pretty comfortable. We did Brisbane to the Kimberley and home via Perth once and Brisbane to Perth 2 other times so plenty of time was spent in the seats. I don't think the seats would have changed that much in the later models.

I towed a Tambo Camper Trailer with it and it was fine but this was with the larger 3.2 TD so it's not a relevant comparison. To be honest I avoided updating to a newer model because I thought it was a backward move due to smaller 2.5TD. In the end I went for another brand but this was in no way due to reliability or quality issues with the Triton. It was just me being underwhelmed with smaller engine. If you are happy with the performance of the current engine then I think the Triton is good value at current prices.

Cheers Geoff
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Follow Up By: Sigmund - Friday, Feb 13, 2015 at 04:56

Friday, Feb 13, 2015 at 04:56
Ten minutes into test driving one I knew there would have to be replacement seats. $2000 or so for a Recaro. X 2. YMMV.
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Follow Up By: madfisher - Friday, Feb 13, 2015 at 21:49

Friday, Feb 13, 2015 at 21:49
We had some as rental utes, no real problems except for the seats, if you could put navara seats in one you would have a real winner. Take one for a really good test drive, maybe their is and option of a better seat, or maybe fit some from a Paj?
Good luck Pete
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Reply By: V8 Troopie - Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 at 22:09

Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 at 22:09
Hi Cruiser 3,

I tow my yacht with the Mitsi Challenger, has the same 2.5 turbo diesel than the Triton.
The yacht is close to the max 3 ton towing capacity and the 2.5 turbo engine tows alright once its going. Have the manual gearbox but would choose the automatic if I had a chance again.
The first gear in the manual 5 speed box is too high to get going on a hill, sometimes embarrassing, but there would be no problem at all with your lighter pop top.
Towed the yacht several times Perth - Shark Bay & return and had no trouble along the way other than the tank being on the small side for towing consumption. Fixed that by installing the 120 liter auxiliary tank.
V8troopie
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Follow Up By: cruiser 3 - Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 at 22:28

Thursday, Feb 12, 2015 at 22:28
Hi V8 Troopy
Thanks for the welcome feedback. Even though my van is light it sounds like the auto might be the best way to go. It seems like the autos in them are fairly reliable.
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Reply By: WBS - Friday, Feb 13, 2015 at 07:55

Friday, Feb 13, 2015 at 07:55
It can't hurt to have a look at this site: http://autoexpert.com.au/buying-a-car?category=ute%20advice

WBS
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Reply By: LIFE MEMBER-snailbait - Saturday, Feb 14, 2015 at 16:16

Saturday, Feb 14, 2015 at 16:16
Hi Cruiser 3
The Caravan world in the march 2025 Page 170 has a road test for a Nissan Navara i know you are talking about a Triton
The Navara has a 2.3 l twin turbo inter cooled and tows 3.5 tonne here is the fact it uses 8.6 lt/100 ks and when towing 20.6 ltr /100 ks
So expect the triton to be near the same
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Follow Up By: cruiser 3 - Saturday, Feb 14, 2015 at 18:43

Saturday, Feb 14, 2015 at 18:43
Thanks snailbait.
That's interesting as I use 21 l/100towing with my petrol 80 series and I was wanting to update for better fuel economy. Even though the 80 series is old it tows perfectly, easy to maintain just grease and oil change myself. In fact that is what makes buying something new such a hard decision, I dont want to regret the upgrade if the new vehicle is not up to the same standard as the 80 series.
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Reply By: mountainman - Saturday, Feb 14, 2015 at 18:40

Saturday, Feb 14, 2015 at 18:40
Mitsabishy has 2shipping containers full of 2.5diesel engines coming from the mitsabishy box of where theyre built.
currently a recall on all 2.5td.
a friend has his keep overheating soo theyre replacing the engine under warranty.
Another mate hasnt had troubles heating wise
but has had the recall work sent in the mail.
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Follow Up By: cruiser 3 - Saturday, Feb 14, 2015 at 19:26

Saturday, Feb 14, 2015 at 19:26
Thanks Mountainman
Interesting, quite negative that they have s problem but on the other hand good that Mitsubishi acknowledge the prob and are doing something about it.
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Follow Up By: landseka - Friday, Feb 20, 2015 at 09:51

Friday, Feb 20, 2015 at 09:51
The only "recall" I had on heating with my 2.5L was to have the strength of the coolant increased and a higher pressure cap fitted.

Replacing the 2.5L motors? I'l like to see a link to that story please.
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Follow Up By: mountainman - Friday, Feb 20, 2015 at 15:14

Friday, Feb 20, 2015 at 15:14
I dont need a linkito see If im full of crap.
a friend bought one second hand, low low kms..
its currently at a dealership waiting for motor replacement.
It had over heating issues, they kept touching and doing this and that..
now a new replacement under warranty.
sadly going to be a 2-3mnth wait..
meanwhile his paying the repaymentson a dead car..
Mitsubishi has put out a recall to rectify the cooling issue.
even a mate of mine bought one new..
no issues but got the snail mail recall to do it.
I told him to sort it before his does it.
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Reply By: Member - G.T. - Saturday, Feb 14, 2015 at 20:16

Saturday, Feb 14, 2015 at 20:16
I had a 1994 2.5 TD ute. It made 200nm and 70 kw. I considered it to be not very powerful, would only hold 100kph on the Mooney Mooney ( north of Sydney) climb up from the bridge not towing. I would go for the manual if you really want to buy one, the auto I think, would take vital power that it is a bit short of. Regards G.T.
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Follow Up By: cruiser 3 - Saturday, Feb 14, 2015 at 20:56

Saturday, Feb 14, 2015 at 20:56
Thanks GT
The current Triton has double the power and torque of the one you had in 1994. So if you could hold 100 going up that hill then the current model would obviously do a lot better now
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Reply By: bigcol - Thursday, Feb 19, 2015 at 23:22

Thursday, Feb 19, 2015 at 23:22
Hi have an MN triton dual cab that tows a 1.5T work trailer around everyday.
First gear isn't the problem when taking off it's the turbo lag and you get used to driving around that after a while.
The 2.5TD HP in the dual cabs makes more torque in manual from than it does with the auto. I recently had an auto as a loaner while my ute was in getting the over heating check and the passenger side curtain airbag wiring harness replaced.
Yeah it was easy getting everything moving but it didn't perform as well as the manual and spent most of it's time making a lot of noise and going nowhere.
They need a torque convertor that locks up once it gets to a certain speed.
Fuel usage while towing wasn't a little worse it was a lot worse.
I tow in fifth all the time and it manages fine
Buy the manual.
Seats are crap and the suspension is even crappier. If you plan on hanging on to it get the boys from Ultimate to fit a kit to it.
Best thing about the Tritons at the moment is they are so cheap
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Follow Up By: landseka - Friday, Feb 20, 2015 at 10:00

Friday, Feb 20, 2015 at 10:00
I have to agree Col, I had a 3.2L ML and changed on 2010 to the MN 2.5L.

The auto is detuned compared to the manual.

I don't think the MN was as good a tow car as the ML but it was still very good.

I tow a 2.8t caravan and both cars did it easily. I got out of an 80series cruiser for the ML triton and never looked back.

Both Tritons have averaged 15 - 16 L/100km towing compared to 22 - 23 with the cruiser and the power was noticeably better too. They got 9L/100km not towing.

I have just upgraded to a Isuzu D-Max to cover myself legally as the Triton was only rated to 2700kg & the van is getting fatter, closer to 3t now.

If the D-Max tows as well as the Triton I will be a happy man. I find out next week.
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Follow Up By: cruiser 3 - Friday, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:58

Friday, Feb 20, 2015 at 11:58
Thanks landseka
Your reply concerning towing a 2.8T van with the Tritons after towing with an 80 series is so very relevant to my requirements and has really been taken on board
Your consumption figures of 22-23 with the 80 series is similar to mine.
Coming down to 15-16 while towing a 2.8T van is exactly the info I was looking for and is very encoutaging.
Once again, thank you
After all my research I have definitely decided that I must have aTriton
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