towing capacity

atm 3617 on the plate

Well unless you upgrade it thats the legal limit and you will still need an FFFy or big Chev or similar cos all the rest are limited to 3500kg

I am confused,because I have been told ball weight restricts all those vehichles

I note these specifications for a "Pinnacle" on a "review" which was posted on a sales site some time back. It may not be identical to the model you have?

If it is what you have, then the indicative weights would of course be approximate only and dependant upon exactly what the payload is and where it is placed relative to the axles. It may be that the Tow Ball Mass exceeds 350kg.

When establishing the tow ball mass you must also take into account the coupling [that may weigh 20kg or more].

Assuming the van will fit within the limits mentioned then even a late model Land Cruiser would likely fall short of tow limitations for such a van so as previous respondents have said a big American SUV needed unless say a GVM/GCM upgrade fitted to Cruiser.

Some further and careful research needed to ensure you can stay safe when towing the big 10.1 metre rig.

Bob


MILLARD CARAVANS PINNACLE

Overall length: 10.1m (33ft 1in)
External length: 7.84m (25ft 9in)
External width (incl awn): 2.44m (8ft)
Interior height: 1.98m (6ft 6in)
Tare: 2800kg
ATM: 3600kg
Ball weight (advised): 250kg
Frame: Aluminium
Chassis: Hot dipped galvanised
Suspension: Cruisemaster independent
Cooktop: Swift four-burner/grill/ oven
Fridge: Dometic RM 4605 186 litre
Microwave: LG
Shower: Separate cubicle
Toilet: Dometic cassette
Lighting: 12V, LED
Gas: 2 x 9kg
Fresh water: 2 x 95 litre
Price $110,000 (on road, NSW)
Supplied by: 7th Street Caravans, Boolaroo, NSW
More info: Millard Caravans

Im sure Motherhen will come on here and tell you the correct info as she has one.
As far as I remember they have a higher limit than 350kg but you could conceivably keep it to that
Whatever you buy its the ATM that governs the weight it can be.

Can someone post a photo of this Millard? What a beast? Is it tri-axle??

if the ATM is 3600 you can still tow it with the Landcruiser so long as the actual weight doesnt exceed 3500kg

You can find images by searching Millard Pinnacle, There are some images shown on Caravan Sales site.

http://www.caravancampingsales.com.au/content/Gallery.aspx?R=26291&PhotoID=/general/editorial/ge5275303505167473933.jpg&track=IMAGEVIEWER&h_mid=0&f_mid=0&c_mid=5230213&TabId=2609557

those pics are the right one.....so for arguments sake if I was to carry the the bulk of the weight..such as water..and gas bottles on the tray of a 79 series landcruiser I woul be ok

You would have to take into account the GCVM or the total legal weight of both when towing.

Dont know about a 79 but 100ser when fully loaded cannot tow a full 3500kg as it would exceed it combined mass Remember you have to include towball weight in the payload of the tug I would want at least 300- 325kg on the ball as well.

Weights
Toyota landcruiser 79 RV 4x4 single cab GCM 6,800kg

TomH, Motherhen has a Bushtracker.

I know was referring to a EFFY

OK, my blue, cheers.

Bob,

In the 1970's I don't think there were any regulations specified by manufacturers what a vehicle could tow. It wasn't until 1998 (I think) that a braked and unbaked tow capacity became compulsory to be specified. Before then anyone could tow 1.5 times their vehicle tare weight legally. I can recall people towing big vans like yours with a ZH Fairlane (V8).

Thanks Geepeem,

Yeah this was back in 1985, and In Mt Isa region, so not as busy as, say Bruce or Hume highways. ;-)

Can remember this 'van, even at sedate speeds on station tracks, pushing the Landcruiser ute pretty much where it wanted too. Glad we only did one short trip on a major highway!

Bob

i think thats what i will do..get it weighed with water tanks and gas bottles full and see what happens..i towed it home to dalby behind 6 cyl 2002 f250...towed beautiful..no dramas..but i have since been told that no suspension improvements will increase the tow cap.and ball weights come into play..and insurers could be a problem...does any body have any facts on dual cab iveco

Get it weighed Empty to see if the Tare on the plate is correct.

Anything else like water is part of the load.

If you cant get it upgraded the figure on the plate will be its max weight

Is a pretty heavy unit as it is without any more

Do a search on this site, and YouTube as well, and you'll get some hits.

Type in "Iveco Daily 4x4" and you'll get 4 hits on here, and about a dozen on the 'tube.

Bob

You can get them............just not in this country.

4500kg towball

A McHitch would be another alternative.

McHitch Coupler