Second Hand Landrover Defender Xtreme.

Submitted: Sunday, Mar 28, 2004 at 14:59
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Hi all.

Does anyone know why it is so hard to find a second hand Landrover Xtreme? We have been searching Sydney, and calling the odd country location for a couple of weeks now, and there is literally nothing, unless we want to spend $10000 over the red book value.

thanks,

Chris
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Reply By: Goran - Sunday, Mar 28, 2004 at 17:39

Sunday, Mar 28, 2004 at 17:39
Few reasons for that Chris. First is the fact that there aren't many around to start with. Xtreme has not captured Aus market at all. Very few that are out there are in the hands of loyal Landrover die hards and they will go bankrupt before putting their Landrover for sale.
My advice is : If you are that dead set on the Landrover look for Defender that has not seen much use. Change tyres, add winch,ARB lockers and you got yourself Xtreme plus change.
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Follow Up By: landie - Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 12:56

Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 12:56
The maxi-drive rear locker is the far better option.

I recall someone in the Landrover Club - Sydney has a good specimen for sale, but I doubt you will get much of a discount versus new (it is a fairly new vehicle).

Most find that once you've bought one there is no need to buy another fro a long time.

Landie
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Follow Up By: Chump - Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 14:30

Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 14:30
thanks landie - as soon as we get the defender, we will be down at Five Dock for the next meeting.

I will ask around there.
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Reply By: Mick - Sunday, Mar 28, 2004 at 20:29

Sunday, Mar 28, 2004 at 20:29
Yes Chump - my response is similar to Goran's - that is that there aren't many around. Landrover used to have a large slice of the market in the 60s but have really slipped out of it now. Too many problems both big and small with their vehicles compared with the reliability of Toyota and Nissan (sometimes!!) Good luck with your search!
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Follow Up By: Chump - Tuesday, Mar 30, 2004 at 10:31

Tuesday, Mar 30, 2004 at 10:31
I don't know Mick - I haven't heard too many bad things about either the Series 2 Disco's or the TD5 defenders.

I had this argument with a supposed 4WD expert in a Blacktown car yard about Land rovers. His car yard won't stock them because they are too unreliable. Problem was, he had had nothing to do with any landrover past about 1998. He then proceeded to try to sell me a petrol nissan, despite the fact I kept telling him I was looking for a diesel troopcarrier.

I don't know....used car salesmen are a rare breed.....
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Reply By: Member - Alan- Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 11:58

Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 11:58
Had the same trouble in Perth around 6 years ago, couldn't find a good Defender at all. Even had the main stealer looking.
Bought a Discovery 300 Tdi instead and despite all the public bar bulldust had a good run with little trouble.
The Main Stealer here still says that if any model Defender is advertised by them or privately, it doesn't last long.
Must be upsetting for the Toyossan Bulldusters to find that the real experience can be different to the rubbish they spout!
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Follow Up By: greydemon - Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 13:38

Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 13:38
I also have a Discovery 300 Tdi for exactly the same reason, and love it - but admit to envious glances at passing Defenders, Extreme or otherwise.

As an aside, Discoveries have a reputation for leaks, I have not had a single leak in two years, I have it serviced by a non-main dealer specialist who asked me how I use it. When I told him that I am frequently off-road, even if sometimes it's only down a Hills track to take the dog for a walk, he told me that was the reason I don't have leaks. Basically Land Rovers are designed to use off road, not cruise the freeways. Treat 'em rough and they will love you forever.
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Follow Up By: greydemon - Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 13:38

Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 13:38
I also have a Discovery 300 Tdi for exactly the same reason, and love it - but admit to envious glances at passing Defenders, Extreme or otherwise.

As an aside, Discoveries have a reputation for leaks, I have not had a single leak in two years, I have it serviced by a non-main dealer specialist who asked me how I use it. When I told him that I am frequently off-road, even if sometimes it's only down a Hills track to take the dog for a walk, he told me that was the reason I don't have leaks. Basically Land Rovers are designed to use off road, not cruise the freeways. Treat 'em rough and they will love you forever.
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Follow Up By: Member - Alan- Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 14:01

Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 14:01
Glad to here your Discovery is going well. The worst leak I had was from the rocker cover gasket and it bloody annoyed me. Not much oil but when it's hot the stuff runs everywhere.
I had leaks on the front axles but when I renewed the seals myself (was quoted $375 per side by a local "expert in Perth!) I found the original seals looked to be the wrong way round!
Quality control is the major prob. with Land Rovers, a workforce that couldn't give a monkeys whereever it is.
Pakis in Pommy land or kaffirs in South Africa!
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Follow Up By: Chump - Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 14:28

Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 14:28
My Disco hasn't started leaking yet, and it has about 85000k's on the clock. The only thing we have had go wrong is one of the headlight washers where some lovely shopper decided to walk past and knock the bloody thing off!

When do the leaks normally start?
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Follow Up By: Goran - Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 15:57

Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 15:57
Landrovers..........you can have them all Alan.
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Follow Up By: Mick - Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 23:44

Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 23:44
It is a well known fact that Landrovers can't keep fluids in or dust out!
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Follow Up By: Chump - Tuesday, Mar 30, 2004 at 10:24

Tuesday, Mar 30, 2004 at 10:24
Goran and Mick,

You guys have been driving landrovers for how many years?
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Follow Up By: greydemon - Tuesday, Mar 30, 2004 at 22:05

Tuesday, Mar 30, 2004 at 22:05
Sorry Chump, I'm afraid I can't tell you when the leaks start, I have only done 180,000ks in mine, including the Gibb River and Mitchell Falls , it's a 1996 model so probably too new still, I'll let you know when something goes wrong. Oh yes, I did have several tyres go near Ellenbrae where the road has been spread with some sort of tyre shredder stone chips, but they weren't original equipment so I can't blame Landrover. My previous Landie blew an engine when I let friend borrow it, but that was an exceedingly old ex-army 24volt signal truck and I don't think he actually put any oil in it - bloody unreliable these Landrovers.

Landrovers in general, and Defender's in particular, are just cars in the same way that Guinness is just beer - it's a soul food thing. If a person doesn't get it you are wasting your time trying to explain, just let them wallow in their self-satisfaction and never know what they are missing.
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Follow Up By: Member - Alan- Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 10:21

Wednesday, Mar 31, 2004 at 10:21
Well said Greydemon. But you'll never convince the bar room bulldusters but then, who'd want to bother trying!
A mate of mine has a Troopy which if he jacks it up one side, oil will run out the other. But does it leak or need drastic maintenance?
Never he says, Toyotas go for ever!
And then there's his breaking axle studs which he blames on his wifes driving!
He doesn't mention the heart attack he nearly suffered when given an estimate to fix the thing either!
Let 'em live in their dream world.
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Reply By: Michael - Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 14:15

Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 14:15
Hi there, Chump.... Hmmm , Yes , well , have you tried the wreckers, they have heaps of them. The can build you a complete one for you from parts. LoL. sorry just joking... But really, if you want something thats comfortable, reliable and easy on the eyes, have a look at some other brands ,, Michael
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Follow Up By: Chump - Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 14:25

Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 14:25
lol - been there, done that. Nothing quite looks like a landrover defender.

I am so over the "computerised everything" vehicles. My current vehicle (V8 Landrover Discovery SE7) has everything that opens and shuts - but it's just no fun to drive. I liken it to the cone of silence. Except this cone has a lounge chair and a nice stereo. And climate control. It is all too much!!!

I am looking for something I can really enjoy - not dissimilar to my old 1985 Suzuki Sierra (6" lift, huge tyres, diff locker, etc...), but just a bit bigger. And the 9 seats are pretty good as well - our only other option is the Troop carrier - but we prefer the 4 doors.

Thats my opinion, anyway....lol....Chris

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Follow Up By: Michael - Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 15:55

Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 15:55
Hi Chris, trying to find a good Troopy could be a chalenge as well, The guys that own them normally use them to their max and dont part with them till they about had it!! Michael
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Reply By: Member - jtb - Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 15:38

Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 15:38
hi chris yep i looked also for 2-3 years & give in , good luck cheers
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Reply By: Glenno - Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 17:48

Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 17:48
Everyone keep's theirs as they still have the same shape even after 10yrs! No need to upgrade to the current model as nothing has changed!
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Reply By: Member - Andrew R (VIC) - Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 20:47

Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 20:47
Hi chump,

I heard today about someone trying to sell an Extreme. If you want me to follow it up let me know.

cheers
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Follow Up By: tcp_ip_boy - Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 21:33

Monday, Mar 29, 2004 at 21:33
Please do! - My email address is ccozad@cremate.com.au or my mobile is 0409 997 212

I'll come down and pick it up this weekend if it is in decent condition!

I would be even happier if they wanted to swap for a 2000 SE7 Disco....

lol
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Follow Up By: Chump - Tuesday, Mar 30, 2004 at 12:53

Tuesday, Mar 30, 2004 at 12:53
I don't know why, but I have two names coming up when I reply to these things - chump or tcp_ip_boy.

Weird, huh?
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