Advice about 02 Prado GXL
Submitted: Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 11:16
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DDT
Hi all around OZ. Firstly I must say that the site is great especially for guys like my self that are new to the off road scene. Keep the good work going!
I am in the process of searching for a Prado and at this stage have found a '02 3.0 TD GXL. One private owner with a full service record. It was built in 11 / 02 so I would still have 18 months of new car warranty. It has 28 000 on the clock and its an auto. The car is
well presented and has alot of extras on it. Asking price is $47K.
Can anyone shed some light on whether this is a reasonable price or am I being duped as I have a quote from the dealer for a new one for $55K with a fleet discount and no extras.
Also should I be looking at an auto for off road driving or is the manual a buy. I have heard from some folk that the autos fitted to the prados are very good, but am I to expect any trouble from the drive train and is there some terrain that they don't like? I will be doing most of the off road stuff in the NT so the conditions here are quite wet for half of the year, although there are heaps of Prado's driving around up here.
If anyone can help I would be most greatfull!
Reply By: Phil G - Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 11:45
Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 11:45
Demand is pretty high for the previous Prado, but $47k sounds high.
Mine is a 2002 TD GXL manual, and the Insurance co values it at $39,000.
Good vehicle, many prefer it to the current model. Automatic is good. No particular problems. Some people will mention front diff's potentially weak - but this is the same with all the Landcruisers at present.
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Follow Up By: DDT - Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 11:54
Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 11:54
Thanks Phill G.
Just wandering if you have any dramas with the spare wheel hanging off the rear door and the hinges sagging. A mate remarked to me that his leaked at the back when the hinges sagged. Is this a common thing whith the standard toyota design of spare wheel mounting?
REGDS
DDT
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Follow Up By: Phil G - Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 13:07
Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 13:07
Hinges can sag on any wide door and I know of one person who had it happen. Its no great drama, and can be fixed. How common it is depends on how long you keep the vehicle. It seems uncommon judging by the lack of reports on the two Prado emailgroups.
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Follow Up By: Ralph2 - Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 13:36
Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 13:36
Hi, The auto box is fine, but I my self would go for the manual, in some situations you have more control. And the spare mounted on the door can weaken the hinges if used on corrugated roads often, the first sign is dust being sucked past the rubber seal.
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Reply By: GO_OFFROAD - Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 12:25
Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 12:25
you can go to www.lcool.org and join the prado mailing lists if you want more specific list information, and tech section devoted to the prado also.
But I have a 2002 TX 3.0 tdi manual, and have seen 3-4 for around the 48-50k mark, of late, which is what I paid for
mine new on runout, when the 120 was released.
The auto in the prado is a good stout
well tested design, and the basic vehicle is also
well designed, and put together with
well known toyota parts.
A Prado may not be the extreme 4wders perfect vehicle, but it would go close to being so for the tourer, wanderer, bush tripper.
I would think the model your looking at in diesel would be worth 40-45k, and in petrol 35-38k for a good clean,
well kept and maintained model.
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Reply By: Member - Bear - Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 20:32
Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 20:32
DDT
How about this one - Built 07/02, registered 12/02 3.4Pet Auto Gande with Sun roof.
Also ARB OME
suspension upgrade and lift, 6 BFG Mud tyres (2 never used), 1 extra spare wheel, Tow Bar, Extra Fridge outelt in rear, Half draw system in rear made by Dept Of the Interiors, T15 TJM Alloy Winch Bar, Wired up for
driving lights by ARB, 3 Rhino Roof Racks, Matts, Wired up for GME Electrophone UHF.
The rig has done 35,000. with a full service history.
I have replaced since our large trip (with new) Front Diff, Transfer case, Both front CV's, Petrol Tank Bash Plate, Exhaust and have also had the dash removed, tightened and re-installed. New battery etc.
Only reason we are selling is to get a 100 series V8.
I had it listed for $59,000 but have decided to accept $50,000. after checking around!
If you want more info or photos give me a yell.
Bear.
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Reply By: DDT - Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 21:06
Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 21:06
Thanks to all who replied with info, it's much appreciated and also good to get an objective oppinion.
BEAR
That sounds like aneat package, just wandering why all the replacements after the trip? Did you have probs or is it a common thing? Also, in what state are you?
Thanks again
DDT
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Follow Up By: Member - Bear - Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 21:38
Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 21:38
DDT
I had the vehicle checked over by a mate at a 4WD Specialist. He wrote a report and Toyota accepted all his recomendations.
The only hard part was getting the approval for the dash removal which must be a large job because they booked it in for 3 days.
Its a top vehicle but we need the extra room. (3 kids, dog etc)
Bear
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Follow Up By: Member - Bear - Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 22:08
Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 22:08
DDT
Keep in mind that the Grande also has the Auto Traction control which I think was about $6000 extra on the other models. Also the duel Air con, leather etc.
Bear
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Reply By: Member - Bear - Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 21:39
Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 21:39
Oh
Bear and the Prado is in NSW (
Sydney)
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Follow Up By: Member - Bear - Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 21:41
Wednesday, Apr 07, 2004 at 21:41
DDT
Keep in mind that the Grande also has the Auto Traction control which I think was about $6000 extra on the other models. Also the duel Air con, leather etc.
Bear
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Reply By: RichieK - Wednesday, Apr 14, 2004 at 22:46
Wednesday, Apr 14, 2004 at 22:46
Hi there
Last year I bought a 5/2002 GXL TD Auto with 13k on the clock, a Toyo bullbar, dual battery, and trailer brakes for $45500, knew it was top dollar, but haven't regretted it in the slightest. Love the auto box, although engine braking not too crash hot off road. Good on fuel also. So far haven't even come close to finding its limits off road - need more weekends away. Just bought a 40l Engel and about to invest in a cargo barrier, some Lightforce spotties (hope the 240's fit the Toyo bullbar) and a
snorkel. A set of A/T's will just about have me set up for anything, although the Grandtreks got me thru some moderate mud over
Easter without much drama. Good luck with your purchase, I think the price seems a bit on the high side, but if its a good one, who knows how long before another one appears for sale???
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