The Terrible Two's - Toilets & Tyre Pressures

Agree wholeheardtly.
We spent Easter at a 'secret spot' and there was the occasional piece of toilet paper around.
My 2 young kids reckon that setting a match to the toilet paper is the best fun of the holiday !!

Oh My and I hope we NEVER get them mixed up, sad isnt it that we ablute where we live

Ruth,
It's a bloody shame we can't legislate against stupidity and just plain, downright bad manners.
I guess all you can do is keep trying to get the message across, but the deaf ears seem to prevail amongst the majority of travellers.
Cheers,
Roachie

Slightly off topic but saw a bloke driving all over the dunes in Lincoln NP last week chasing his dog around. Needless to say dogs aren't allowed and the dunes were off limits, couldn't get his rego number unfortunately.

Ruth the biggest problm in the cape these days rubbish wise are the sorbent flowers we ask all our travellers to burn the paper and after a few days of seeing the lady scott flowers they soon see why.
As for rubbish there are enough spots to place the stuff and at the most you only have to carry the stuff for a couple of days.

All the best
eric

Never ceases to amaze me that people will travel to beautiful remote areas and leave it a pig sty. My mate has got me into the habit of picking up any rubbish i find now.....hate to admit it but i didn't before, just shook my head in disgust, but it wasn't much better than those who left it. as for setting fire to the paper after doing the other bit its a bonus, its always nice to catch a few of the dunny budgies when you do that, bit of pay back

Ruth,
the majority of it comes from the fairer sex,with their urge to mark their territory at every pit stop!!. What I cant understand is why they dont put it in a bag, (or under the floor mat as my wife does) and use it to start the fire with at the end of the day .
Burning the paper off before burying your droppings is a good way to go also.

Sadly, as more and more people start to travel, it is only going to get worse. If you think of yourself as an average type person, as I do myself, and we can leave the country clean when we pass through, you quickly realise that there is alot of the lowest common denominator out there trying their hardest to bring the average down to their level. None of Australia is immune from it, and the sad thing is that the offenders probably see other peoples mess, think tut, tut ,tut; and then do the same.
Maybe some big notices in the bathrooms and laundries at the camping grounds at B'ville and Dalhousie Springs might have an effect in your area.
Sails

God forbid Ruth, I thought that that sort of thing only happened in the high country.
Next thing you will be complaining about the "Offroad Trailors". LOL.

Regards
John

Ruth,

Totally understand your sentiments. Perhaps it is now too easy for the whacker brigade to get to some of these places.

There is a total disregard for others inherent in their actions.

I am sure that some of these grubs love to grovel in their own excreta and rubbish.

A cabbie once told me a good trick - he had some passengers who were delivered to a spic and span mansion who made a mess in the cab. After he spent 1/2 hr cleaning the cab he put everything in a box and next day returned, knocked on the door, got inside and acccidentally dropped the contents of the box on the white shag pile carpet. He got a bit in the proverbial though as such morons are able to be so indignant of course. Great trick though.
Similarly are those who insist on driving about campsites too fast kicking up a dust when they have no purpose to be there bin the first place or are so pathetically disabled that they need to drive 50 metres to go to the toilet. Their pathetically incontinent nature obviously is a match for their impaired brain function.
Ditto those who go bush camping and need a generator to run their lights at night

Perhaps the authorities need to be a little more pro-active in providing suitable facilities in the way of toilets and rubbish receptacles or stations.
That said some of these morons seem unable to use anything (but have a drivers licence though) and one must wonder if they were ever toilet trained or taught to aim properly (both M & F (so i am told) and number one and number toos for both sexes).

At easter we were at Lake Keepit (NW NSW) and some moron(s) tried to burn down one of the facility blocks which was working hard to cater for those at the site. The rangers were quite blase about the incident - I guess they get to see all.

As to how to stop morons - well there aint any easy answers - if you confront them direct life can become uncomfortable (or even dangerous).

I go away to enjoy myself and do not like such time being spoilt.
I do not care what others think, I will report unsociable behaviour to the relevant authorities and have generally found that they will act. In remote areas obviously this cannot always be timely and I do not necessarily want people to be prosecuted, but even if they are spoken to it helps.
Part of the problem is that a lot of people just do nothing so the morons do not ever get chastised.

Yep if this behaviour continues we will surely find access being denied and who can blame the landowners.

Bottom line is folks that everone must become more pro-active in stamping out unsociable behaviour.

All it takes foir evil to triumph is for good beings to do nothing.

Regards

Pete G

Well, I don't know. Just had a telephonic transmission (the phone) to tell me that my information was not correct. Not completely Private Property to the Border - it doesn't really change anything just makes Queensland National Parks liable for cleaning up more area - you still must pass through Private Property to get to the Queensland Park on the way to the Simpson Desert National Park. Just thought I'd better put this here because I'm being watched. If only Queensland National Parks would patrol and clean up, if only. Still signed: Disgusted, Downhearted and now Frustrated.

I remember some years back, an old timer saying that he kept a sealable plastic bucket of lime in his truck and that, once he'd burned off the paper, he would sprinkle some lime on the waste before back-filling.

Has anyone else heard of this method and do you know what benefit/damage it might do to the environment?