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Anybody else finding the new layout of the forum a pain?
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Reply By: snow - Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 19:43

Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 19:43
Not really...
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Reply By: Racey - Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 19:44

Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 19:44
No, what's the problem?
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Follow Up By: Member - John - Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 19:45

Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 19:45
the fact that you can't read the replies with out opening them.
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Follow Up By: HKB Electronics - Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 20:40

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Follow Up By: BunderDog - Monday, Oct 05, 2015 at 18:55

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And when you reply you have to "expand" everything again to continue reading,
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Reply By: Gone Bush (WA) - Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 20:01

Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 20:01
As David said, it's a work in progress. Send suggestions through and see if they get a guernsey.
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Follow Up By: Member - John - Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 20:03

Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 20:03
am doing that also, have asked Michelle to delete this post, I was a tad quick off the mark
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Reply By: Idler Chris - Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 20:44

Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 20:44
Give it time. I understand what you are saying. I will us it for a week before I will pass judgement. I have not tried it on my phone yet and I can see this change maybe a good idea.
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Follow Up By: Member - John - Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 20:49

Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 20:49
Chris, I am going to do that also now, have asked Michelle to delete this post, I was maybe a tad quick off the mark. It maybe great on a phone, but I don't have a smart phone and don't plan to have one
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Reply By: Australian Landscape Jewellery - Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 20:53

Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 20:53
Agreed. I can't quickly see what I need or move quickly to things like the blogs. Please change it back to the way it was someone.
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Reply By: Member - Scrubby (VIC) - Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 20:57

Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 20:57
Nope, not yet.

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Reply By: Steve in Kakadu - Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 21:02

Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 21:02
I don't like change, but I will see what happens. ;-)
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Reply By: Member - bungarra (WA) - Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 21:18

Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 21:18
not all happy. If it "aint broke don't fix it"...........I will most likely drop away.........the old format was perfectly ok..........bloody stupid having to open everything........
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Follow Up By: Member - G.T. - Sunday, Oct 04, 2015 at 11:36

Sunday, Oct 04, 2015 at 11:36
My sentiments as well. Stupid change, I will not be renewing my membership when it expires at the end of this year. Rrgards G.T.
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Monday, Oct 05, 2015 at 07:56

Monday, Oct 05, 2015 at 07:56
Fellas, relax :)
If you notice now, there is a button, open unread posts, click it once and unread posts open in a thread . . . click it again, opens all posts, and the ones you haven't read have that little revolving circle to indicate these, rather than the arrow that shows ones you have read.
To me this is a great feature, as you don't waste time reading replies you have already.
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Reply By: philip t jones - Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 21:20

Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 21:20
I thought it was October 1 not April
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Reply By: Member - bungarra (WA) - Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 21:21

Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 21:21
I will further add that previously being able to scroll through and read all the posts replies allowed continuity of flow...........its now disruptive and easy to lose the train.........I reckon David has stuffed up big time
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Reply By: Ron N - Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 21:34

Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 21:34
Yes - the new layout is no improvement. In fact it's a retrograde step.
All the replies are looking like they are trying to load, I'm getting the rotating circle on every heading.
I couldn't see what was wrong with the previous setup, it was easy to scroll through the replies.
I have a smartphone, and it's easy to scroll up or down or sideways just with your finger.
I'm using Chrome and Windows 7 on the desktop, perhaps this new setup works better on Apple products.

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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 21:55

Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 21:55
For what it's worth I use pretty much what Ron has said re Chrome and Windows 7.

I guess anything new takes time to get use to, however haveing to open every post to see if what you are going to reply with hasn't already been said. It just seems a little less user friendly. With the old format it was easy to skip down and make sure you were not just repeating what has already been posted.
Other than that maybe we should just give the new format a bit of "getting to know you" time.

Also what happened to the very user friendly spell check facility?

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Follow Up By: Ron N - Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 00:24

Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 00:24
The setup might work better if a button was installed, that when clicked, opened all the posts in one hit.
As it stands, it's just plain tedious going down the page and clicking on every persons post, to find out what's in it.
A lack of temporary editing ability to correct errors is still an important function that's missing.
The editing ability can be time limited to say, something like 10 mins to an hour, just to ensure the person posting has a chance to spot any errors that slipped through, and correct them.

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Reply By: Ross M - Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 21:46

Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 21:46
Now you can't easily scan to see what the trend of discussion is and have the ability to comment/correct false info which often happens. The OP is therefore, not able to glean the best possible from the replies.
Maybe I have missed something or not realized how to use it yet.
A bit crazy me thinks.
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Reply By: Member - Bruce and Di T (SA) - Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 21:46

Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 21:46
Absolute garbage. Wish we hadn't renewed our membership at this stage.

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Reply By: pop2jocem - Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 21:59

Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 21:59
OK one little thing I just noticed, I put in a follow up to Ron's reply. Without actually opening his reply no one would know I even added a followup. The same for all others.

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Reply By: lancie49 - Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 22:04

Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 22:04
Come on ppl.
It's been less than 24hrs since this has all happened, let's give it some time for things to settle down.
I'm sure Admin are still trying to get it all together and will take note of all comments, but don't jump on them too early.

Give it some time huh :-)
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Follow Up By: Danna - Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 11:39

Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 11:39
lancie49 could you tell us what you want to wait for?
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Follow Up By: lancie49 - Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 12:37

Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 12:37
Dana, have you ever done a MAJOR upgrade of a web page or forum site ?
Things don't always happen right the first time round and do need tweaking.

If you have any experience in doing major upgrades perhaps you could offer some constructive comments and assistance rather than pour cold water on someone else's work..............other than that, just sit back and relax while others work their butts off.
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Follow Up By: Member - G.T. - Sunday, Oct 04, 2015 at 11:40

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This is a MAJOR backwards Step, I don`t have to wait to come to this conclusion. G.T.
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Reply By: Member - John (Vic) - Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 22:14

Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 22:14
It's actually pretty good, clean, simple and uncluttered.
Once you open the follow up its marked as being read, no additions mean no change to the post notification.

I haven't looked at it via my desktop running Windows 10 as yet, but it's good on the tablet.
Also like the menus as a drop down as it makes the page less busy.
Allround in the few hours it's been running, I like it.
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Reply By: equinox - Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 22:19

Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 22:19
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 22:39

Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 22:39
Looks fine Al.

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Reply By: Motherhen - Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 22:36

Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 22:36
What has happened? I thought the site must have been hacked at first glance. I hope this is a temporary state. It is terrible and tedious having to open every reply. Not user friendly or good readability. Is it is being trialled as an option? Has David been kidnapped by Martians?
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Follow Up By: Member - Blue M - Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 01:27

Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 01:27
I agree :( I had been changing settings on my computer, than I opened the page and WOW. I even went to another computer and it was the same. Could get used to it I guess, but thwn again I hate change.
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Follow Up By: Member - Niss42 - Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 10:31

Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 10:31
As Motherhen says, "Not user friendly or good readability"

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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Saturday, Oct 03, 2015 at 08:06

Saturday, Oct 03, 2015 at 08:06
Getting better though, being able to open unread posts in a thread is a big start !!
Actually, almost normal now for forum use, obviously blogs and other will follow as soon as it can be done.
If websites aited for everything to be perfect, they'd never get updated !! :)
Oh, and the mobile view (one of the objects of this excercise) looks great now :D
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Sunday, Oct 04, 2015 at 12:47

Sunday, Oct 04, 2015 at 12:47
I can see at the thread level what is new and what is not - rotating circles vs arrows but how do I tell which followups I have read or not without going through them - the old colour system while crude was at least functional.
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Monday, Oct 05, 2015 at 01:26

Monday, Oct 05, 2015 at 01:26
They have a comment symbol not an arrow.
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Monday, Oct 05, 2015 at 07:59

Monday, Oct 05, 2015 at 07:59
Unread replies have rotating circle, read replies the solid arrow.
Click button up top of thread once (Open unread replies) these come up, click again opens all replies.
If you click it once, you can not waste time re-reading replies, or at least scanning them thinking, did I read that already ??
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Reply By: Member-George (WA) - Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 22:57

Thursday, Oct 01, 2015 at 22:57
Had a quick look through all menu items, including the Forum layout. So far I have no problem with it, find it easy to use. The whole Exploroz site seems to respond much faster than before.
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 07:34

Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 07:34
I'm open minded at the moment, but the new form appears to have lost its previous uniqueness.
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Reply By: Member - Ups and Downs - Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 07:51

Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 07:51
Thumbs down from me too.
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Reply By: Member Bushy 04(VIC) - Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 07:53

Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 07:53
Don't like it, you cannot see what anyone says about anything without going on each individual thread .
Far to complicated to try and read any comments.
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Reply By: Member - Journey into Unknown - Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 08:24

Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 08:24
Yes, no liking this one little bit
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Reply By: Member - DickyBeach - Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 08:30

Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 08:30
As Mark Twain famously said: "I'm all for progress, it's change I hate."

Seriously, though, is it possible to open many or all replies at the one time rather than doing so one at a time? I couldn't be bothered opening all the earlier replies to see if somebody else had already used the above quote.

Otherwise, looks good to me.
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Reply By: brushmarx - Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 09:16

Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 09:16
Having to open each response separately is a bit of a pain, but I guess I can live with it if that can't be changed.
Do we now have an edit button somewhere?
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Reply By: aussiedingo (River Rina) - Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 09:54

Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 09:54
so many extra keystrokes!! can't glance 'n see, what a pain!!! I won't be checking the forum as much anymore. " If it ain't broke - why fix it!!"
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Reply By: garrycol - Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 10:33

Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 10:33
How do I tell what I have read and not read - all posts have the rotating circle but I have read some of them.

Just bring in a forum format similar to the majority of other forums - because they are basically the same they obviously use the same core software. Why try to re-invent the wheel and give a substandard product - the rest of the ExplorerOz site can remain the same just bring the forum into the 21st century.

Every up date on the forum as it is seems to be a backward step.
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Follow Up By: Member - ACD 1 - Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 10:38

Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 10:38
Agree totally!

Have sent an email to Michelle, but you wouldn't know because you can't tell a followup has been posted either

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Reply By: garrycol - Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 10:34

Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 10:34
How do I tell what I have read and not read - all posts have the rotating circle but I have read some of them.

Just bring in a forum format similar to the majority of other forums - because they are basically the same they obviously use the same core software. Why try to re-invent the wheel and give a substandard product - the rest of the ExplorerOz site can remain the same just bring the forum into the 21st century.

Every up date on the forum as it is seems to be a backward step.
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Reply By: Steve in Kakadu - Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 10:44

Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 10:44
I just opened all the replies, then I refreshed the page, once the page was refreshed you have to open them all again to see if there has been any changes as you can't see if there is a reply or not.
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Reply By: Danna - Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 11:25

Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 11:25
When I paid for my add, for selling a camper trailer I didn't agree with this set-up.
For someone who try to sell something this is no good. One have to look for
classified, and being on the bottom, new person to this site will miss it totaly.
How's that .....
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 12:29

Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 12:29
Classifieds are still in the drop down menu at the top.
No change to the section other than its much cleaner and easier to search for what you want.
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Follow Up By: Danna - Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 21:24

Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 21:24
Yes, John, but it isn't as obvious as being on head-bar front of you.
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Reply By: Member - Geoff M (VIC) - Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 11:40

Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 11:40
It is quite different but I don't find it too bad. Any replies you look at change from the circle to an arrow so you can quickly see what replies you have looked at and don't have to go through them all again if you re-open the post. I find this quite useful especially for the bigger posts like this one.
Perhaps an enhancement would be to open up all the replies you haven't looked at when you open a post, don't know if that is possible?
The site seems quicker so that is better, running it on a Dell XPS with Win10.
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Follow Up By: Member - Geoff M (VIC) - Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 11:46

Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 11:46
Further to my email, the "arrow" on the replies that I have read has now suddenly gone back to the "circle" - I think there are still a few bugs with the system! So I take back that comment about replies, and hopefully all the bugs can be fixed soon.
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Follow Up By: Member - Geoff M (VIC) - Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 13:15

Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 13:15
Sounds (and looks like) the bug has been fixed.
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Reply By: Les - PK Ranger - Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 14:44

Friday, Oct 02, 2015 at 14:44
Yes, but will give it a shot.
If only the replies would open automatically, or all with one button click !
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz - David & Michelle - Saturday, Oct 03, 2015 at 08:00

Saturday, Oct 03, 2015 at 08:00
Les,
The expand un-read / all button was installed yesterday.
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Saturday, Oct 03, 2015 at 19:22

Saturday, Oct 03, 2015 at 19:22
That expand un-read / all button is the best thing to be added to the site, it now makes the site a lot more user-friendly.

Thanks, David & Michelle for all your hard work in trying to improve the site for all.
I know it must be hard with the amount of devices that can connect to the 'net today.

In addition, some people are hard to satisfy, and hate change of any kind.
I'm one of them! LOL
However, this upgrade is definitely improving as you tweak it.

The new site is faster overall, and my tired old eyes appreciate the larger font.

Cheers, Ron.
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Reply By: rotor138 - Saturday, Oct 03, 2015 at 07:31

Saturday, Oct 03, 2015 at 07:31
I agree to hard to follow, hope this site doesn't become another that falls out of the frequently read list.
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Reply By: BunderDog - Monday, Oct 05, 2015 at 18:53

Monday, Oct 05, 2015 at 18:53
Is it just me but why is there a menu button at the top of the page which you have to click to get the whole menu which is listed single line down the page. Why can't there be a menu bar ar the top of the page. Also what has happened to the blog section which used to be on the RHS of the page, I used to like just looking at that and seeing the latest blogs, can't find it at all now. All in all it's a very difficult navigate for me.
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Monday, Oct 05, 2015 at 19:29

Monday, Oct 05, 2015 at 19:29
Blogs are via the drop down list on the menu link at the top left of the page.
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