Tuff bull bars

Submitted: Saturday, Oct 03, 2015 at 10:03
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I understand there is a review underway and NSW police are looking at setting new guide lines on who can and cannot have bull bars.

Now a good friend in Broken Hill has just ordered a new landcruser 200 GX and was thinking of putting a TUFF make bull bar but is not sure what to do

The Tuff site says they are legal but looking at the new guidelines I am not sure

any one got any new information on this situation

thanks

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Reply By: Hoyks - Saturday, Oct 03, 2015 at 10:41

Saturday, Oct 03, 2015 at 10:41
I saw this link on another site, if the bar conforms to the standard and is manufactured for the vehicle, then it should be OK. If he is trying to fit something off a Kenworth onto a XD ute, like some of the B&S utes I see getting around, then he might have some explaining to do.

http://roadsafety.transport.nsw.gov.au/downloads/bull-bar-tolerances.pdf

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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Saturday, Oct 03, 2015 at 10:49

Saturday, Oct 03, 2015 at 10:49
Sorry to duplicate your link in my reply below, Hoyks. Your post wasn't visible to me when I wrote mine. It only came up after a browser refresh.

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Follow Up By: Member - TonyV - Saturday, Oct 03, 2015 at 12:37

Saturday, Oct 03, 2015 at 12:37
The RMS set the guideline, not the police. Then the Police enforce them.


The RMS decision to enforce the existing laws was nearly 12 months ago and Tuff and a few other bars MAY be illegal to be fitted to NSW registered vehicles.

Tuff have published a fact sheet to assist Tuff Myths and Facts (click here)
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Follow Up By: Hoyks - Saturday, Oct 03, 2015 at 13:38

Saturday, Oct 03, 2015 at 13:38
That's cool. The new format still has a few bugs to be ironed yet.
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Sunday, Oct 04, 2015 at 11:16

Sunday, Oct 04, 2015 at 11:16
Hoyks, anyone can see that there is only 4 minutes between the two postings. Some of us can take longer to get a link, compose the reply, check it out and post it.
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Reply By: Frank P (NSW) - Saturday, Oct 03, 2015 at 10:46

Saturday, Oct 03, 2015 at 10:46
I found this link that seems to be relevant.

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Reply By: allein m - Saturday, Oct 03, 2015 at 13:29

Saturday, Oct 03, 2015 at 13:29
Thanks most of this I have seen I was wondering if any thing has been said around regurgitation stations I know there was a a new document sent to rego inspection people few months back re spec of a bull bar

it also looked at position of spot lights they cannot be forward of the bar

From what I am getting is if there is a risk of a pedestrian being injured then the vehicle is illegal

I think my best advice is to tell my friend to approach local RTA office and get them to say what he can or cannot put on his new car

He is concerned about spending a lot of money and be told his brand new vehicle is not legal

This thing about pedestrians if you hit some one whith your car you own head lights or other parts of the car may do damage

my Friend is a shearer and works all over far west of NSW and down as far as yunta way and is at risk in his daily driving so that is easy he is ok that way

but it is this thing about causing injury to pedestrians if they are hit is a sticking point
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Follow Up By: allein m - Saturday, Oct 03, 2015 at 13:43

Saturday, Oct 03, 2015 at 13:43
http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/documents/business-industry/examiners/vib-05-protrusions.pdf

figure 1 shows the spot light locations

this is November 2007 some one said this was new lol

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Follow Up By: Life Member-Doug T NSW - Sunday, Oct 04, 2015 at 05:19

Sunday, Oct 04, 2015 at 05:19
Pedestrians are Humans, are suppose to have a little more intelligence than Kangaroos and be traffic aware ( sometimes I have my doubts) . roads and streets are made for traffic, not pedestrians therefor the pedestrian should always obey the rules when crossing a road...ie wait for the green walk sign , My mother taught me that in Adelaide when I was a little one, and today I still can afford a couple of minutes of time to wait . So what I am driving at is ...do it right and no one gets hurt.

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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Saturday, Oct 03, 2015 at 17:10

Saturday, Oct 03, 2015 at 17:10
Probably save a lot of pain by having a standard bar fitted by the dealer. It least it would have a bit is give in it in a major accident. Michael
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Reply By: JR - Sunday, Oct 04, 2015 at 15:37

Sunday, Oct 04, 2015 at 15:37
There are new gudelines for bullbars, only relates to vehicles after certain date, 2000?
It is a new document, superceeds several previous ones. Appears to be more lenient than others.
If Tuff say its OK, highly unlikely it does not

Its a compromise to make a bullbar which wont hurt pedestrians below 20kmh yet handle a similar sized animal at 80+
Id suggest listen to what locals say in BH as to whats required to do the job.
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Follow Up By: allein m - Sunday, Oct 04, 2015 at 16:24

Sunday, Oct 04, 2015 at 16:24
may be the government should spend some money on stopping people from walking infront of cars

I hit a Emu the other day he just ran out in front of me

now theemu has the brain the size of a pea human s should be able to make better decisions and if not make the fines for walking in front of traffic show how bad a decision this is .

My last trip to Sydney I saw a guy walk against the do not walk sign and taping information on his tablet not once did he look at the traffic .

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Follow Up By: Member - TonyV - Sunday, Oct 04, 2015 at 17:28

Sunday, Oct 04, 2015 at 17:28
Signs that no one will see...

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Follow Up By: allein m - Sunday, Oct 04, 2015 at 17:56

Sunday, Oct 04, 2015 at 17:56
yes exactly
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Reply By: Member - Scott M (NSW) - Sunday, Oct 04, 2015 at 21:08

Sunday, Oct 04, 2015 at 21:08
"Vehicle frontal protection systems (VFPS) – which includes bull bars, nudge bars and similar devices –
fitted to vehicles in NSW must comply with vehicle safety standards specified in the Australian Design Rules and the Road Transport (Vehicle Registration) Regulation 2007. Among general requirements for protrusions, the Regulation requires that VFPS fitted to vehicle models first manufactured after 31
December 2002 to comply with the Australian Standard AS 4876.1 – 2002 Motor vehicle frontal protection systems Part 1"

Takes my 1983 HJ47 out of the equation. Mind you, they would had to prise my bull-bar out of my cold dead hands.................
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