Jeep refueling

Thanks Les.

Sorry I didn't explain it very well. Not only is the filler neck too narrow, the car has an automatic closure mechanism to eliminate the need for a filler cap. (Just a flap.)

(I did try a hi-flow nozzle and just won't put fuel in at all even on half trigger. It goes everywhere.)

I would have to take out the auto closure to modify it to widen and I assume this would have implications for warranty. But may be possible after warranty ends.

On my recent Big Lap I was stunned by how many vanners in WA were using Grand Cherokees (and happily half a dozen told me) so I thought someone may have come up with a clever way.

My need to use high flow pumps is simply to avoid having to try to get into the pumps for cars which is not possible at many service stations (on the east coast where I live).

Hmm, that is a bad 'feature' for sure, and I know what you mean about the servos and access, some as so tight where they are positioned on smaller blocks.

About the only thing I can suggest is letting Jeep know about this, they should be told or they won't know about the problem.
Ask them if modifying the fuel filler neck is ok to do to fix this issue for you.
If it is ok, then a 'cut & shut' using a suitable filler neck from a wrecker should be doable . . . IF you can get the Jeep filler neck out easy enough.

Or, use a funnel : /

Thanks Les - I'll certainly let Jeep know. AB

Yes Michael. Seems to be a problem caused by the new auto closure system to do without a filler cap. R

Trust the car makers to complicate the most simple of things....an auto closure mechanism, fair dinkum, will the car go into limp mode if it doesn't close itself? Probably can't close it manually. They do their best to ruin a nice car. :-)

Does your 2nd tank have an air bleed tube fitted?
If they left that off then you'd get the blow back.
maybe look at fitting a small tube between the tank and the top of the filler tube (but underneath the cap obviously). That'll give the displaced air somewhere to escape.

Malcom, thanks for the response. Yeah, it does have an air bleed attached, however it joins the feul feed below the cap, which is just large enough to get the hi-flow in. Suspect the sheer volume of liquid combined with the narrow gap to escape creates fairly instant blow back. Poor design of the fuel feed IMHO.

Ive got a 47trayback :-).
Made the fuel tank where all the later models have them, where the spare goes
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The outlet on the tank needs to be non restrictive, as I used a 40mm pipe elbow but high flow needs more as the elbow restricts the high flow going into the tank.
soo a new elbow out of rhs and just a 40mm filler should work
when I get around to pulling it out and modify it again

Me too !
And most times I see the lanes empty there, it is frustrating, as fast flow filling is great with the 186lt capacity in the tanks.
Most servos would have no problems with a large 4wd and caravan going through those sections marked trucks only, as it's probable the reason for these special lanes is difficult access on normal pumps with articulation.

Never had anyone say something when I have filled up there. If they did, I'd say I had a truck !!

Because that lane only has hi flow diesel, they put a sign up to stop moron car drivers pulling in expecting to see a petrol bowser.

Many thanks Bill - that's the sort of solution that I was thinking about. Clever idea to glue two sections together. I'll look into it. Much appreciated. AB

Alan,
my PX Ford Ranger is very happy with a high flow pump, so I don't know which Ford they are talking about.

I regularly use high flow diesel pumps.

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Hey Slowie, this was one. Did see some other references too but I wouldn't recognise one Ford from another.
In fact, I thought they only came in black. lol

Alan, I had to laugh when I opened the link it started with a GMH ad. I wouldn't have a clue as to what that vehicle is either.

You can get different colours this year they are making them in off white also, if you pay a little extra they can mix 50 shades of grey for you.

They have really jumped the opposition with this one.

You can get them in other than black now?
Henry must be turning in his grave. lol

Thanks Allan

You may be correct that the nozzle didn't reach the second gate but it was so narrow it didn't even get through the first one!!!

I'm pretty sure the tiny nozzle of a jerry can will fit and that's what gave me the idea of a tube wide at one end tapering down. But will be a slow fill.

I've just done a Big Lap with a diesel Pajero and can't imagine that I would have survived having to use lo-flow pumps everywhere.

In fact I changed from a petrol Pajero to diesel some years ago partly as I often could not get the caravan into petrol pumps while I watched diesel wagons with caravans filling up in the truck bays.

Regards

Astro Boy

Wow Thanks Rodney

I'll have a look in the morning. (I'm free camping at present and the back of the Jeep currently has a road bike, set of golf clubs and a big blow-up kayak so can't unload in the dark!!!)

Much appreciated

Astro Boy (also a Rodney in real life)

Correct.

When I'm travelling (because of the load being carried in the rear) I make sure the emergency funnel is carried somewhere for easy access rather than have to access the spare wheel area.

Regards

nrb1748

Hey that's an idea. An extra fuel tank. I had thought of that on my recent trip around Oz in a Pajero which did not have a good range (and I carried five jerry cans of spare fuel for the Kimberleys). But the Jeep uses much less fuel so I had not thought of it so far (as I've only done 6,000 km from Sydney to Portland so far). I'll investigate this - it may be a solution.

Using street view is a good idea (probably better than driving around checking out servos which I've been doing) but often on a Big Lap you don't get a choice of servos in remote places.

Funny story about this - some years ago I pulled into a caravan park in country NSW and asked the Chinese gentleman behind the counter if he had a spot for the night where I didn't need to unhitch. He said "yes, you pay $20 cash, you park where you like, you no see me, I no see you". I handed over $20 and said "I'll refuel first" and he said "only place for you is truck depot in back street - you no get into the one in main street". And he was right. With his directions I found the truck depot. I was very grateful.

I had not thought of dropping off the van to refuel - I guess I can do that if necessary. But after five years of using truck bays (with no-one ever commenting that this was not allowed despite all the signs) I'm feeling a bit deprived.

Tx for your help.

AB