GU OR GQ

Submitted: Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 09:08
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Hi all
Just a quick question forr all you patrol owners and fans out there.
Looking a upgrade to either a GQ or GU in the near future diesal of course
i know both are built like brickbleephouses .
i'm leaning more towards the older but wiser GQ

but what is the fuel comsuption like around town ? The petrols are terrible!!!!

cheers all

CHUBBS
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 09:29

Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 09:29
Really depends on your intentions with it.. Bush basher, go a GQ.. Doesnt cost as much to start with so wont hurt the wallet, and less plastic on a GQ to crack. More second hand accessories available too.

Wifes shoppin trolley, or long distance traveller probably a GU, not as truck like to drive.
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Reply By: Trol - Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 09:41

Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 09:41
Chubbs,

Hi mate. How longs a piece of string. It all depends on what you want to do and what sort of truck you want. Comp truck, don't go past the GQ unless your money tree is flowering, parts readily available, accessories galore, and dentable. If you want trip comfort and good offroad truck but don't intend on flogging on bush tracks, then GU is the name of the game...

Depending on your choice of vehicle, you also must remember that the GQ's have higher mileage on them these days and are slowly but surely getting harder to find under 200k. GU 4.2TD and newer 4.2TDI's have same motor and running gear with only egr being the only computerised thingo doovalacki on board. Lower k's by rule so will be longer term. This all depends on the size of your mullar tree out back.

Happy hunting.

Trol.
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Reply By: flappan - Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 09:47

Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 09:47
Depends on your budget cause there will be a fair price difference because I'm assuming here you will be wanting a 4.2 Diesel.

I think the last of the GQ's would be a good deal. Not too old , not as pricey as the GU . . .
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Follow Up By: chubbs - Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 10:34

Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 10:34
THXS FOR THE HELP

I will be going for the 4.2 diesel

But my main concern is what is the fuel comsuption like driving around town in general ?????

cheers all

CHUBBS
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Reply By: chubbs - Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 10:31

Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 10:31
THXS FOR THE HELP

But my main concern is what is the fuel comsuption like driving around town in general ?????

cheers all

CHUBBS
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 11:03

Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 11:03
Chubbs,
My GU weighs around 3tonne before I load it up with gear for a trip. The roof rack has been a permanent fixture since new; it's now done 125,000klm. My average consumption over the whole life of the 2000 model truck has been 15.63litres/100klm. Like most people I drive it 7 days a week around town, on long trips and short weekend jaunts; so a good cross section of travel.
With a less heavily loaded and nil-roof rack vehicle, you could expect in the 13 to 14 ltr/100klm range I would think.
I've owned both GQ and now the GU. They drive about the same (handling wise etc), but the GU is thirstier because of the crap I carry around everywhere.
Cheers,
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Follow Up By: Trol - Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 12:42

Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 12:42
Chubbs,

Sorry mate, forgot about the fuel consumption...

Depending on whether you want a straight naturally apirated Diesel or you want some horsies, I can give you both figures.

Pre turbo: Got 10k's per litre ie. on 80L would do around 800k's, that was with the truck bog stock.

After turbo: Had 33's, 4 inch lift, accesorised to the hilt, 12psi running through 3 inch exhaust, moded pump: 165HP and 123 KW at rear wheels, 7.6k's per litre. And I used to push it hard. It would use 7.6 everywhere I went, around town, highway, towing air con off/on, it was all the same. Except when I bought fuel in Bega on a trip to the great ocean road, got 5.2 k's/L, truck ran like crap, don't buy fuel from there if you can help!

Hope that helps mate,

Trol.
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Reply By: Michael - Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 10:49

Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 10:49
My 4.2 G U TDI gets 900ks from 115litres, thats combination of freeway driving and running around the suburbs, the majority is freeway. Michael
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Reply By: PerthGQ - Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 15:30

Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 15:30
Just to throw a petrol number into the ring, my '96 GQ 4.2 EFI Auto gets 17L/100km (5.9km/L) around town and 14-15L/100km (7.1km/L) on the highway. I dont mind the extra running cost against the diesel, knowing I dont have to feel like I'm towing an aircraft carrier every time time the lights go green! LOL
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Reply By: joc45 - Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 15:31

Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 15:31
Chubbs,
tend to agree with most above. The old GQ is really tough, and not too much plastic. Get one without metallic paint, and you won't mind scratching it in the rough. The GU is definitely more civilised on/off road, and is better insulated and lower NVH. The old GQ DX is pretty basic, but if you get an ST, watch for rust in the rear sliding windows, a problem the DX didn't have.
Consumption: In the GQ, used to get around 26mpg, city, unladen. Country running varied from 27-28mpg unladen to about 23mpg laden, roof rack, 100km/h. Once in a blue moon, I achieved 30mpg. The GU gives me regularly 25mpg around town unladen, but is worse in the country, generally 24mpg unladen, dropping to about 21mpg fully laden, roof rack, 100km/h. From reading other people's figures, I suspect I'm a bit lighter-footed on the pedal.
In both models, I found that the loaded weight had a noteable effect on fuel consumption. All above figures for diesel. And yeh, I know they're not in L/100km, but then again, I'm an oldie, and besides, I'd have to reach for the calculator.
cheers, Gerry
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Follow Up By: chubbs - Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 15:42

Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 15:42
Thxs all for the useful information

I already had my mind set on a GQ but the fuel consumption was a major concern. But everyone seems quite happy with the km/ltr they are getting from their patrols

CHEERS ALL

CHUBBS

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Reply By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 16:27

Thursday, May 27, 2004 at 16:27
chubbs
We have a 1995 TD42. Our speedo is out a little thanks to the 33" Muddies, but we get approx 14l/100k's highway/town/loaded/unloaded, (give or take a litre) and on the sand at Fraser approx 20L/100k's... for the amount of enjoyment we get from it, it's worth it.

Next??? I wouldn't hesitate to buy a TD42T GU.

Oh... and we have the "poverty-pack" DX... it's a great truck! and our next one (GU) will probably be a DX as well!
Love 'em!
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Follow Up By: warren - Friday, May 28, 2004 at 09:50

Friday, May 28, 2004 at 09:50
currently own a 1987 mq 3.3 ltr turbo diesel & have done 300000 klms & have had injectors & clutch done = fuel economy is magic .
approx 23 mpg towing a camper trailer at 90 to 100 klms/hr & almost 30mpg normally.
as you can see i am old enought to still have to relate to mpg.
thinking about updating to gq at some stage.
hang loose.
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Reply By: Jimbo - Friday, May 28, 2004 at 18:54

Friday, May 28, 2004 at 18:54
Find a Petrol fitted with Gas, there are thousands of them on the second hand market. More power, more torque and cheaper to run.

I just don't understand this attitude that if it's not diesel it's not a real 4wd. Go and drive a naturally aspirated 4.2 diesel, they move like a wounded wombat. The simple fact is that they only produce 85 Kw and perform accordingly.

Also in an older car you always face the prospect of an engine rebuild and diesels cost the GDP of Tonga to rebuild.

All in all it is a matter of value for your money. It's your dough.

My thoughts only.

Good Luck.

Regards,

Jim
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Follow Up By: joc45 - Friday, May 28, 2004 at 20:10

Friday, May 28, 2004 at 20:10
The petrols are better value, esp second-hand, but if it's range you need without carrying a load of jerrycans, then the diesel wins hands down. With LR tanks, the old GQ used to get over 1400km range. If you don't need range, then go petrol/gas.
Horses for courses.
cheers, Gerry
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Reply By: JamieMac - Sunday, May 30, 2004 at 20:57

Sunday, May 30, 2004 at 20:57
Chubbs

I agree with most of the above posts re GQ v GU

I have 89 GQ 4.2 TD naturally aspirated that gets a reliable 9.5km/l or 26mpg ish.

If it is all slower open roads near town say 80-90 kmh then I have gotten closer to 28-30mpg also.

Fully loaded it gets down to about 23-25 on the road with a trailer and roofrack.

And maybe 20-23 off road in tougher conditions.

All depends how you drive really. If you drive a diesel like a race car then youy may as well get a petrol as the economy will plummet. But if you treat it good you will get anywhere with a smile as you pass the fuel stops.

PSS I will be moving my Patrol on soon as a GU 4.2TD looms on the horizon. Has 275,000km and has been treated like a baby, even have all myservicing details still. Let me know if you are anywhere near Nowra and I'll take you for a drive.

jamie
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Reply By: Daniel No.8 - Friday, Jun 04, 2004 at 14:12

Friday, Jun 04, 2004 at 14:12
just worked out my 2.8TD i got 700km from 90L which comes to 7.77km/L or 12.85L/100km, this was a mix of both highway and city.
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