Remote breakdown??

Submitted: Thursday, Apr 07, 2016 at 11:26
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Wondering if you breakdown in remote area how do you know who to contact to recover the vehicle and how to make contact..I was only going to carry a Spot Gen 3.thanks
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Reply By: Ron N - Thursday, Apr 07, 2016 at 11:46

Thursday, Apr 07, 2016 at 11:46
Lazylux16 - If you report in as being stranded in a remote area, you can ask the local police to organise recovery of your vehicle.
They have usually have intimate knowledge of who's available to do that type of work locally.
Or you can contact your insurance company when you get within reach of communications again, and let them organise it, if it's going to involve an insurance claim.
And don't forget to thank all the SAR crews for their efforts, and make a donation to all their Christmas parties or selected charities!

Cheers, Ron.
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Follow Up By: LAZYLUX16 - Thursday, Apr 07, 2016 at 11:50

Thursday, Apr 07, 2016 at 11:50
Thanks Ron N so my Spot will send help to Police .I havent bought it yet but lots people on here say a good thing!. Sorry being niave whats SAR.cheers
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Follow Up By: TomH - Thursday, Apr 07, 2016 at 12:02

Thursday, Apr 07, 2016 at 12:02
Search and Rescue maybe
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Thursday, Apr 07, 2016 at 12:33

Thursday, Apr 07, 2016 at 12:33
Yes, S&R = the likes of SES, smaller town groups have been known to help with recoveries, the expected thing is a decent donation for their efforts.

They have vehicles with winches, all sorts of equipment that can assist in many types of recoveries, and they probably enjoy the break in normal routine, the 'practice' of the exercise, and many like the community thing, helping others.

If a tow out was needed to a nearby road head etc, they probably do that too if they could, or being locals, know a bloke with a suitable tray top or towing setup.

Before a trip, make a trip plan, and include a list of hone numbers, RFDS, local Police, Parks offices, SES, sizable stations, anyone else that could be handy.
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Thursday, Apr 07, 2016 at 13:02

Thursday, Apr 07, 2016 at 13:02
SAR is the common abbreviation for Search And Rescue.

The Spot device will only alert the people you have it set up, to alert - apart from the SOS 9-1-1 distress call - which relays your SOS to AMSA - who oversee and monitor all emergency beacon signals in Australia and within its maritime boundaries.
You only call on AMSA when your situation is dire and 100% life-threatening.

You can nominate and pay for higher levels and more intensive tracking according to the level of subscription you have paid for.

All the useful devices for help when you're lost or stranded are described on the Exploroz page below.

Communication and Emergency devices

Cheers, Ron.
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Follow Up By: garrycol - Thursday, Apr 07, 2016 at 19:10

Thursday, Apr 07, 2016 at 19:10
Your insurance company will only be interested if you have had an accident - not if you are broken down.
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Reply By: deserter - Thursday, Apr 07, 2016 at 13:17

Thursday, Apr 07, 2016 at 13:17
Daughter's partner had problems on the Canning. He had a Sat phone. Quote was $15k to get a low loader in to get him.
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Follow Up By: LAZYLUX16 - Thursday, Apr 07, 2016 at 13:20

Thursday, Apr 07, 2016 at 13:20
Wow I gotta buy one and park myself out there.I asked about insurance and now I know why theres added cover from $1500 to $15000 and then up to $30000..
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Thursday, Apr 07, 2016 at 21:09

Thursday, Apr 07, 2016 at 21:09
Lazylux16 - You could call Pilbara Towing and get an idea of desert recovery costs from them - they specialise in remote W.A. recoveries, beach recoveries, and all off-road and on-road 4X4 disasters.

Cheers, Ron.
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Follow Up By: LAZYLUX16 - Thursday, Apr 07, 2016 at 22:40

Thursday, Apr 07, 2016 at 22:40
Ron H thats great, right to the horse ..I will do that .Thanks .Alice Springs got same set up I read somewhere too!
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Reply By: RobAck - Thursday, Apr 07, 2016 at 15:32

Thursday, Apr 07, 2016 at 15:32
SPOT is not setup to do what you are asking. Unless you use one of the canned messages to go direct to a response organisation such as your automobile club or similar. If not then a satphone is your best option. We use SPOT for tracking so folk know where we are and for duress to call for a rescue if all goes really badly. Satphone is used to contact folk for things like organising parts/repairs/recovery etc. Depending on where you are going there may not be anyone to offer a vehicle recover service. For example on the Western edge of the Simpson it is Mt Dare if they are available and you are prepared to pay them. Barnsley offers the same thing from Birdsville and we have used both to rescue broken cars. In Alice Springs I recollect Outback Recovery used to do the work all the way to the WA border. Can't comment on anywhere else

Rob
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Reply By: Motherhen - Thursday, Apr 07, 2016 at 22:05

Thursday, Apr 07, 2016 at 22:05
What sort of message will you Spot send to the police. Does it only send out set messages, or can you send a custom message describing your dilemma and asking for assistance. Will you know that the message is understood and assistance being sent?

If you have Roadside Assist with your motoring organisation, and you can call them or get another travelling to call them when in phone reception area on the Australia wide number, which also works from a satellite phone, it will still cost you packet if a long way from help, but they should arrange assistance for you.

When we have had remote breakdowns, we have had to manage ourselves, or on one occasion with the help of other campers which made the job easier for us. Another time our satellite phone was invaluable. Most of these involved the caravan, so in some cases we were able to drive for help.

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Follow Up By: LAZYLUX16 - Thursday, Apr 07, 2016 at 22:47

Thursday, Apr 07, 2016 at 22:47
Thanks M.H.I been looking into satphone .I have spent arm and leg setting up for trip so far.Spending a bit more for safety and peace of mind or actually should be first thing I should have bought ...
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Follow Up By: PhilD - Thursday, Apr 07, 2016 at 23:12

Thursday, Apr 07, 2016 at 23:12
Second hand sat phones on EBay are not an arm and a leg, and if you have a postpaid unlocked Telstra sim with international roaming activated you can transfer it to the sat phone when needed and only pay for the call costs in an emergency. Lots of posts on this. I now have mine for the current trip on a $40 pm casual plan, with the first 3 months free, so my sat phone will cost me $80 for a 5 month period, and then I can deactivate it until needed again. It gives me my own sat phone no, and saves transferring my iPhone sim across.
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Thursday, Apr 07, 2016 at 23:18

Thursday, Apr 07, 2016 at 23:18
Knowing we had the satellite phone was enough to allay the panic and let us think, hence we got ourselves back on the road without even using our new for that trip phone. The following year, having the phone saved us driving distances every day for the two weeks we were stranded on the road. The phone which we had paid $2,000 for well and truly paid off.

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Follow Up By: deserter - Friday, Apr 08, 2016 at 11:57

Friday, Apr 08, 2016 at 11:57
Further to my earlier comment re the Canning.

He is with RACQ and called them. He was able to get a fair way from the Canning and then the price was much more bearable. They organised everything.

However - be careful with the fineprint. RACQ cover has a $ limit. If you use that for example on the tow, then there are no dollars left for the accom while your car is repaired. Even though the cover seems to say there is. Can be ambiguous.
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Reply By: vk1dx - Friday, Apr 08, 2016 at 08:15

Friday, Apr 08, 2016 at 08:15
We take a satellite phone. A comprehensive list of phone numbers "lives" in the car. If I am feeling like it before departure I will stick an abbreviated list on the back of the phone. (See part of it below) Our list started back in 2009 and added and edited on a very irregular basis. Not sure if it correct these days but we would soon work it out.

I looked at EPIRBS, SPOTs and such gizmos but preferred the phone as it is way more flexible and any passer bye could use it if I am unable. Even the grandkids know how to use the satellite phone.

Cost = who cares. Isn't it more important to get the correct message across and get the right aid. Just imagine trying to get first aid on how to bind up a broken leg with through an EPIRB. No way.

Satellite phone - hire one or buy one.

And with the phone I can call up the club and get the footy results. Try that with a SPOT!!

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Follow Up By: LAZYLUX16 - Friday, Apr 08, 2016 at 08:35

Friday, Apr 08, 2016 at 08:35
Good one Phil but the last one I don't know if I want to know footy scores the way my team is shaping up and painful seeing how well bloody Crows sre going ha ha ha
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Follow Up By: LAZYLUX16 - Friday, Apr 08, 2016 at 08:43

Friday, Apr 08, 2016 at 08:43
Hi again Phil forgot to ask what brand satphone you use and plan thanks
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Friday, Apr 08, 2016 at 09:00

Friday, Apr 08, 2016 at 09:00
Poor old Crows. What about my mob, The Parramatta Eels. Bad last few years and a good start for 2016, but we shall see. Followed them since the 60's.

We have an Isatphone on a prepaid basis. We only put money in it if we are going remote. Works for us.

Phil
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Follow Up By: LAZYLUX16 - Friday, Apr 08, 2016 at 09:31

Friday, Apr 08, 2016 at 09:31
Other way round Phil I am Port Power man and they were flogged by Crows last week and now we have some of our best players injured ...be good to get away .Hopefully when away they will surprise me ...When I lived in Qld AFL was hard to find on Tv.
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Follow Up By: vk1dx - Friday, Apr 08, 2016 at 09:37

Friday, Apr 08, 2016 at 09:37
In all the years that we lived in Melbourne, we never saw one NRL game live. Not even the grand finals. Not even on the news. They were so one eyed.

Catchya

Phil
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Follow Up By: LAZYLUX16 - Friday, Apr 08, 2016 at 10:09

Friday, Apr 08, 2016 at 10:09
We hate the Vics herr in SA and they are very much self-promoting even though its been Australian Football League for long time now.
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