Windows 10 free upgrades.

Submitted: Thursday, Nov 10, 2016 at 12:56
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According to all including Microsoft the Free upgrade has gone as from end of July.
Except it hasnt.
I have just upgraded a machine and it did it perfectly, didnt ask for a key and was exactly the same as machines done before the end of July. Didnt cost a penny.
How is this possible.. Look here

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Reply By: Member - Boobook - Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 07:43

Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 07:43
Yes it has always been available. You just have to lie and say you use assistive technologies. Eg large font, high contrast.

The reason they did this is because win 7 and 8 had poor implementations. It doesnt even check to see if you use them
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Follow Up By: TomH - Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 08:17

Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 08:17
Yes but Microsoft help desk wont tell you about it I found a link to it on another site.

The chat tech told me it was impossible to do since July 29 so they must be trained by Telstra.
Know nothing. deny everything else LOL
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Reply By: Rangiephil - Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 09:27

Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 09:27
My win 10 installation crashed a couple of months ago and would not load updates notably the Anniversary update. It kept on saying cannot install as installing other updates.

I got it going again at the time , but recently tried to fix it by doing all the recommended fixes on the Microsoft site and others to no avail.

So a couple of days ago I did a clean install from an ISO file which I downloaded from Microsoft. It now works better than it ever did. My computer was given to me and up until now had strange paths etc as they reflected what was originally on it. Now it is lovely and clean.

It is a PITA as I had to reinstall Office and my Trend Micro but I was able to recover all my files from the windows .old folder. ( except my email contacts).
I had done a backup prior but somehow it disappeared, so it is probably best to copy the files onto a USB or similar.

As you say it is freely available , although the Microsoft site I think reads the original serial number from your Win 7 or 8 installation and it is this that authenticates the installation.
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Follow Up By: TomH - Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 12:40

Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 12:40
There is a vast difference between the free UPGRADE and what you did with an ISO I also have 3 different version ISO's.
However the machine I upgraded had a backup but we were unsure how much it had done so did the Upgrade which just replaces Windows and your computer is the same as it was but has Win 10 on it . As you say using an ISO is destructive and you lose everything unless you have a full backup
In your case I would have backed up to a different drive and formatted the C drive prior to reinstalling windoze. That way all the crap is gone completely.
You can export your contacts as a CSV file or even a WAB file and import them back after a reinstall.
I use a program called Fixit utilities to clean out my machines. Ran it on the one I was upgrading and it found 1377 errors in the registry and nearly 400 broken shortcuts.WIn 10 free upgrade is NOT now easily available and was quite hard to find and may not be around for too long. It is supposed to be for people with vision or hearing difficulties being able to access the stuff that they have left out of Win10
On installing Win 10 it implants a digital signature in the Bios which identifies your machine and if you change the motherboard you have to ring to get windoze reactivated. Been there done that a few times
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 14:34

Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 14:34
My attempt at upgrading to Widows 10 didn't work.
The installation "crashed" right towards the end, complaining that the installation of McAfee Virus Scan had to be disabled first.
Interesting point was that I have not run McAfee since first purchasing the Laptop and had uninstalled it in favour of another product.
I searched the registry for any signs of this entry but couldn't find it.

In exasperation and because the Laptop was "getting on" a bit, I chucked it and bought a new Laptop with Windows 10 pre-installed.

If Microsoft were even minutely in tune with their customers, they should have also offered a free version of Windows 10 to install from scratch.

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Follow Up By: TomH - Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 16:25

Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 16:25
You could have used an ISO and the serial from WIn 7 or Vista and it would accept it Would have been free.
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Reply By: Michael H9 - Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 18:06

Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 18:06
Many people are having a lot of trouble with Win 10. The updates keep breaking things and the Edge browser is an abomination. Many of my customers are looking at Apple in a more serious way. Not being able to easily turn off updates is a pain in the backside.
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Follow Up By: Kazza055 - Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 18:16

Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 18:16
I have been running W10 on 2 computers for well over 12 months now without any problems at all but then again I use Google Chrome as my browser.
This is one of the best and stablest systems Microsoft have brought out.
I still run W8.1 on my laptop but not for long now that I know I can still upgrade to W10 for nicks.

Only thing I did not like was the default setting to make updates available to other PCs on the internet - no wonder my usage was sky high. Now I update to my desktop PC and then make it available to my other PC's on the LAN, setting all other PC to metered.
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Follow Up By: TomH - Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 19:25

Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 19:25
Its not hard to do a google of .0003 secs showed this
Turn off Windows Updates in Windows 10. You can do this using the Windows Update service. Via Control Panel > Administrative Tools, you can access Services. In the Services window, scroll down to Windows Update and turn off the process Otherwise do as I do let it download updates but it has to ask me if and what to install I then go into it and disable the optional ones that are the likely ones causing problems EG the NVidia one at present.
I agree about Edge although it has got better I hate Chrome for the way it lists your history. Thousands have asked for it to be done similar to Firefox but Google always knows best, to their detriment.
Have had intense trouble when streaming and Chrome cant find Flash
I wouldnt wait too long to use that upgrade as it may be withdrawn at any time
.Going to the temple of Apple is a bit drastic after reading the article about how Apple are out of touch with what users actually want.
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Follow Up By: Michael H9 - Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 20:54

Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 20:54
In my business I've probably seen 2000 Win 10 computers and a hell of a lot of unhappy people. I haven't put it into many business customers yet because it would be a complete nightmare. Latest stats show that win 7 is still outselling it but MS is withdrawing it. I've actually lost count of how many people have asked to have their computers wiped and put back after the grace period. If you think there are no problems then that's great.
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Saturday, Nov 12, 2016 at 17:39

Saturday, Nov 12, 2016 at 17:39
" Via Control Panel > Administrative Tools, you can access Services. In the Services window, scroll down to Windows Update and turn off the process"

What version or Win 10 are you using? I have the anniversary update done to mine and there is nothing like that on my Control Panel.
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Follow Up By: TomH - Saturday, Nov 12, 2016 at 17:53

Saturday, Nov 12, 2016 at 17:53
Win 10 Home Premium Amin tools are in all versions. and were in win 7 also
I have since seen its only doable in Pro but appears in mine
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Reply By: Paul and Mel - Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 19:44

Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 19:44
I did a Win 10 free upgrade earlier in the year. It went OK but was never really happy with it. A few months ago I had lots of crash errors after an update and was never able to recover from it. Every time it was a different error and went from running from 10 seconds to 10 minutes. Chased my tail for weeks trying to narrow down where the problem/s were but a google search revealed many people around the world had that issue so I dumped that PC and bought a new one, cheaper, easier and I get to keep my remaining hair.
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Follow Up By: Kazza055 - Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 19:47

Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 19:47
So I assume the new PC had W10 installed on it?
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Follow Up By: Paul and Mel - Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 20:50

Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 20:50
Yeah it does but it's factory installed and shouldn't suffer similar a fate.
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Follow Up By: TomH - Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 21:28

Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 21:28
You could have done a format and fresh install for a lot less than a new computer.

Would have given the same result
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Follow Up By: Paul and Mel - Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 21:39

Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 21:39
Ah good excuse to update the PC anyway eh? New one is lightning fast compared to the old one.
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Follow Up By: TomH - Saturday, Nov 12, 2016 at 17:58

Saturday, Nov 12, 2016 at 17:58
Will be until you add all your little programs off the net which while they work on their own, sometimes fight with each other.

Another thing to speed things up is always do a custom install and turn off the "Start with windows"

I then go to my start menu via "msconfig " and turn off all the ones you cant select when installing. Makes things cleaner and meaner.
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 20:39

Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 20:39
Since windows 95 there had been subtle changes and 20 years later we get windows 10. It's basically the same only a whole new learning curve for no apparent reason except for selling you crap. Windows XP was certainly stable and useable. Just because 10 is new doesn't mean it's good! I think it's appalling! Michael
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Follow Up By: Gronk - Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 21:00

Friday, Nov 11, 2016 at 21:00
Tried a win10 update 6mths ago...crashed the laptop, had to pay a repairer to get it going again....so no win10 for this laptop....

Next laptop maybe, but just because its new, doesn't mean its best ..
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Follow Up By: TomH - Saturday, Nov 12, 2016 at 18:07

Saturday, Nov 12, 2016 at 18:07
The original GUI of windoze was first on the Atari. Then it reappeared in Win 3.1 and so on. I had Atari's, a 400 an 800, a 130XE and a 1040 Shame they are gone, they were great gaming machines in their time. Had several hundred games for them as well, on tape and disk
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