200 series tyre wear

Submitted: Friday, Nov 25, 2016 at 16:56
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Any body got issues with there front tyres getting excessive wear on out side as I have had new shockys and tyres noticed wear after two weeks so put them on back and got another her ailgment now done 17000 on tyres bfg all terrain any one with same prob with some advice cheers
Pete
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Reply By: TomH - Friday, Nov 25, 2016 at 17:25

Friday, Nov 25, 2016 at 17:25
I had similar problems in my 100 ser. Solution was get up earlier and go around roundabouts slower on the way to work
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Reply By: Blown4by - Friday, Nov 25, 2016 at 17:38

Friday, Nov 25, 2016 at 17:38
What pressures are you running in them?
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Follow Up By: Pete R3 - Friday, Nov 25, 2016 at 19:05

Friday, Nov 25, 2016 at 19:05
Between 38 / 40 psi
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Reply By: Batt's - Friday, Nov 25, 2016 at 18:45

Friday, Nov 25, 2016 at 18:45
Some truck front end alignment outlets also do 4WD's and sometimes do a better job if you don't find any other reason.
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Reply By: Ross M - Friday, Nov 25, 2016 at 19:57

Friday, Nov 25, 2016 at 19:57
Probably the people setting the alignment are doing it to specs with little understanding of the dynamics involved. It may require someone to analyse the wear and adjust the front end according to what the vehicle requires, not simply to specs.

If is the outer of both, dynamic toe in is too much prviding camber is correct.

Bull bars, roof racks etc have a dynamic effecr and require consideration.
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Reply By: Frank P (NSW) - Saturday, Nov 26, 2016 at 10:33

Saturday, Nov 26, 2016 at 10:33
Pete R3

I've had alignment on my Prado and now my BT50, both lifted, done at a truck alignment specialist. BFG All Terrains on both vehicles.

Both vehicles were done to his specs, not factory, and both have had and continue to have perfectly even tyre wear, straight steering with no pull to either side.

He told me that apart from obvious factors such as suspension mods, one of the things that overseas vehicle manufacturers do not account for in their wheel alignment specs is Australia's highly cambered roads, and that lead to his development of his own specs for 4WD tourers.

If your aligner is not a specialist in trucks, off road and 4WD, maybe try to find one. If you're near Sydney, Pro Axle is very very good.

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Follow Up By: Gronk - Saturday, Nov 26, 2016 at 10:41

Saturday, Nov 26, 2016 at 10:41
I have a 200 series with a 50mm lift ( 2 yrs ago ) and while some go with new UCA's, mine is standard and after an align it tracks and wears perfect.
Align was done by Bob Jane mob.

Has the OP got a wheel align printout ? Maybe the specs are wrong or different to norm ??
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Follow Up By: Members - Bow & Nan - Saturday, Nov 26, 2016 at 21:04

Saturday, Nov 26, 2016 at 21:04
I had a 200series with a 2 inch lift.

Had to fit UCA's to get the correct alignment specs.
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Follow Up By: Gronk - Sunday, Nov 27, 2016 at 08:21

Sunday, Nov 27, 2016 at 08:21
Strange isn't it ? I still have my printout somewhere and all settings were within spec.
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Sunday, Nov 27, 2016 at 11:41

Sunday, Nov 27, 2016 at 11:41
Yes, it is. The Prado didn't need aftermarket UCAs but the BT did. Same lift (40mm) on both vehicles.
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Follow Up By: Member - Leigh (Vic) - Sunday, Nov 27, 2016 at 14:16

Sunday, Nov 27, 2016 at 14:16
Pro-Axle in Camberfield sorted out my troopy. Would recommend them if you have any issues.
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Follow Up By: Members - Bow & Nan - Monday, Nov 28, 2016 at 08:14

Monday, Nov 28, 2016 at 08:14
Gronk, I think the difference is the amount of weight on the front suspension.
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Follow Up By: Gronk - Monday, Nov 28, 2016 at 20:00

Monday, Nov 28, 2016 at 20:00
Possibly ?? If yours didn't have a bullbar it may have sat slightly higher than mine with a bullbar and winch.
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Follow Up By: Members - Bow & Nan - Monday, Nov 28, 2016 at 21:51

Monday, Nov 28, 2016 at 21:51
100kg Springs with a alloy bull bar and winch.
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Reply By: The Bantam - Tuesday, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:51

Tuesday, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:51
First of all, lets talk about tyre pressures.

before you discuss tyre pressures with anybody, you need to know what the weight is on those tyres and have a load V pressure table for the size of tyres you are running.

ANY advice on tyre pressure that does not consider the load on those tyres and the recommended Load V pressure tables is utterly useless and unhelpful.

Running tyres under inflated causes the shoulder to tend to roll under the tyre on turns causing rapid wear on the shoulder.

running tyres a few PSI above recommended often helps shoulder wear

Time after time I have driven or owned vehicles that the factory alignment specs where far from ideal .... even with factory suspension and factory tyres.

Time after time I have taken these vehicles to someone who knows their business and will do what they know to be right not what is in the book.

Mostly this involves getting as much negative camber out of the factory adjustment as it will give.

If you have lifted or put wider or taller tyres on a vehicle the geometry in particular the tyre pivot point changes .... that is where the pivoting axis of the steering meets the road in the tyre tread.

The alignment should be corrected to take this into account.

I have several times taken recently "aligned" vehicles to someone who knows their business and has a machine in good order to find the pervious alignment poorly resembles what it should.

As a second point ..... lots of tyre shops can even ballance wheels properly.

make a visit to a suspension specilist or a shop that pays qualified mechanics to do wheel alignments.

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