4X4 Tyres

Submitted: Monday, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:36
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Hi,
Need some advise before buying a replacement set of threads for my Isusz D-Max.
Got 40,000 km out of them but they are buggered, factory fitted.
Now I drive 80% on sealed and dirt tracks but done the Cape, Simpson, Plenty Hwy and heaps in Tassie so need something that will "match the patch" I drive in.
Your opinions PLEASE.
Cheers,
TonyL
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Reply By: Batt's - Monday, Feb 27, 2017 at 14:21

Monday, Feb 27, 2017 at 14:21
That's not many k's were they inflated correctly and rotated approx. every 10,000 km ? Any way I have 115,000 km on my current 285/75/16 Kunho KL78 A/T tyres that's rotating al 5 tyres there 6 yrs old I have them on a dual cab GQ patrol ute which is over 2.5 t. There due for replacement I will be getting the same ones again they have been getting a bit slippery in the wet due to hardening with age for the past 15 - 20 thousand but I have had no other problems with them. There good on gravel roads and on the beach and can handle weight.
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Follow Up By: Member - TonyL2450 - Monday, Feb 27, 2017 at 17:15

Monday, Feb 27, 2017 at 17:15
you were right, neglect.
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Reply By: baznpud (tassie) - Monday, Feb 27, 2017 at 15:15

Monday, Feb 27, 2017 at 15:15
Tony, you will get a variation of replys, because everyone will recommend what they are using as tyres are a personal choice, we have had a great run out of BFG all terrains.
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Follow Up By: Batt's - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2017 at 12:26

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2017 at 12:26
Had BFG A/T's on a cruiser once there a good all round tyre and last a long time they are better than the Kumho's I mentioned above in off road situations because they have a more aggressive tread pattern.
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Reply By: pop2jocem - Monday, Feb 27, 2017 at 15:15

Monday, Feb 27, 2017 at 15:15
Tony,
As Batt's said, not much life from your originals.

Anyway, if you are intending to do more dirt road off road type trips I would recommend LT construction with an AT tread pattern. This regardless of make.

Cheers
Pop
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Reply By: Bazooka - Monday, Feb 27, 2017 at 16:56

Monday, Feb 27, 2017 at 16:56
If you do a google search Tony you'll find some recent threads on tyres, and plenty of old ones.

Don't know what the originals were but in many cases vehicle manufacturers AREN'T renowned for fitting "good" tyres to their expensive 4x4s, and by contrast journalists ARE renowned for not seriously taking them to task about it. So 40K from four (?) might not be particularly bad.

Two tyres which regularly feature as good all rounders on various forums are the Yokohama Geolandar AT-S and Bridgestone AT D697 LT (which I'm running on my V6 Jackaroo). If you're lucky you might strike their deals of 4 for 3 (Bridgestone does this twice a year at least).

On my vehicle the D697s are quiet, capable on everything but sticky mud, not perfect on wet tar (what AT tyre is?), relatively "bombproof" as far as damage and punctures are concerned, and wearing okay. I expect to get about 70,000km out of 4. They aren't the best at anything - although their reliability is often commented on - but they're decent all rounders which can usually be found at very reasonable prices (depending on your size needs and your location).

PS I'm not wedded to any brand and I doubt if most people are either. I'm price conscious and look for what I think is reliable and good value. I'd happily fit 4 or 5 different brands/tyres (not much more) based on strong user support.
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Reply By: Member - mark D18 - Monday, Feb 27, 2017 at 17:24

Monday, Feb 27, 2017 at 17:24
Tony

Most tyres of the correct size these days will do the trick .

There would be at least 10 brands that would do the trick no worries without spending a fortune .

Everyone will have a favorite .


Cheers
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Reply By: Tony F8 - Monday, Feb 27, 2017 at 17:34

Monday, Feb 27, 2017 at 17:34
The bottom line is no matter what brand you fit, tyre preassures are more important than anything, sure you can get some tyres that will give you 80 or 90k out of them, but they are a harder compound so do not grip well, or a softer compound which will grip well, but not last as long. Imho I would personally prefer a tyre that is going to stop the vehicle than worry about the amount of klms I get from them
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Feb 27, 2017 at 19:58

Monday, Feb 27, 2017 at 19:58
So you need a LT A/T tyre.
Plenty of brands out there - just pick the best deal on a good brand.
I like to check out www.tyresales.com.au to get an idea of what is good at the moment. Then shop around.
You might find a 4 for the price of 3 deal on Toyo ATs is pretty good - don't know what size you want.
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Reply By: swampy - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2017 at 01:58

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2017 at 01:58
Hi
Michelin AT 55oookm towing 98%
Remember rotate every 10,oookm
Wheel align every 30,oookm
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Reply By: gbc - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2017 at 06:46

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2017 at 06:46
Call me racist but I like the 'made in Japan' sticker on tyres. I've had issues with tyres from every other place. For the record I just put on my third set of yoko geo12's in a row on the weekend. They do the important things faultlessly.
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Follow Up By: Paul E6 - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2017 at 10:38

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2017 at 10:38
Not racist...if the japs make a decent tyre, then I suppose the credit is due.
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Reply By: splits - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2017 at 10:50

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2017 at 10:50
"Got 40,000 km out of them but they are buggered, factory fitted."
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Were these the factory fitted street tyres?

The handbook for my Lux lists three standard tyres. One is a 205 x 16 street tyre which the book says is not suitable for off road use.

Another is a 205 x 16 (reinforced). I assume that is a LT.

The third is a 255/70 x 15 112L LT. That is most likely intended for looking good in cities and for city drivers to tour the Outback.

Six months after buying my then 3 1/2 year old Lux, I fitted a set of 205 x 16 112L LT 80% mud/rock 20% on road tyres from a well known manufacturer. They have been everywhere from the top of Big Red to the top of Mt Beadell to the top of Blue Rag before it was graded a few years ago without any trouble at all.

Age finally caught up with them before mileage did so I replaced them last April with a same specification AT from a different but well known major manufacturer. They have been from Sydney to Darwin and back via Cameron Corner, Innamincka and the Donohue and Plenty Hwy to Alice Springs then sealed roads after that. Once again without any problems.

Just use the standard size off road tyres specified by the manufacturer at the recommended pressures. The suspension has been designed to work with them and the pressures will give the correct slip angle and front to rear slip angle ratio.

Just about all tyre manufacturers will make the sizes listed in the book.




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Reply By: Blown4by - Tuesday, Feb 28, 2017 at 12:20

Tuesday, Feb 28, 2017 at 12:20
The reason many factory fitment tyres give less than satisfactory mileage is the little known fact that some tyre manufacturers make a specific tyre with less tread depth for OEM fitment on certain makes of vehicles. Its not about the dollars, its about the dollars. Obviously correct pressures for the conditions, load, speed, road surface conditions and how you drive are all critical factors for long life.
Personally I recommend Bridgestone D697 LT's. My 285/70R17's have done 50000K's over all types of road surfaces including the GRR twice, Mitchell Falls and Bungle Bungles without a puncture. About 50% tread depth is remaining however the second 50% never lasts the distance covered by the first 50%. Pity that! My second preference would be BFG A/T KO2 pattern in LT load rating however I have heard they can be hard to source at times and therefore some price then accordingly. Like everything - shop around. These two tyres are pretty much the "tyres of choice" by those living and working in the Kimberley region such as pastoralists, tour operators and remote communities with emphasis being on the word "living" rather than those "just passing through". That in itself plus my own experience over many years is a good enough recommendation for me.
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