Sydney - Eden route

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We're heading to Melbourne / Great Ocean Road and stopping for a few days in Eden. Haven't been down this way for many years so looking forward to it.

Just wondering if there is much of a time difference either way between Princess Hwy route and Hume Hwy then via Cooma.
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Reply By: Member - DOZER - Wednesday, Jan 03, 2018 at 10:07

Wednesday, Jan 03, 2018 at 10:07
Princess hwy is alot slower, heaps of towns with 50 signs and traffic lights. Hume then queenbeyan then cooma is all 110km/hr. Croajingalong is an awsome national park that most drive straight past headed south from Eden, if you like fishing or walking, its a nice detour.
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Follow Up By: Croc099 - Wednesday, Jan 03, 2018 at 11:26

Wednesday, Jan 03, 2018 at 11:26
Thanks for clearing that up. I will go via Cooma. Haven't been down Brown Mountain since I was a kid. Should be good.
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Reply By: RMD - Wednesday, Jan 03, 2018 at 10:54

Wednesday, Jan 03, 2018 at 10:54
The map says Princes.
It was probably named after a Prince, therefore Princes Highway.
Maybe not Princesses.

Hume is quicker. Watch out for the many arrays of speed cameras if on the Princes Highway.
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Follow Up By: Croc099 - Wednesday, Jan 03, 2018 at 11:24

Wednesday, Jan 03, 2018 at 11:24
Thanks for that. I think I will go via Cooma. Appreciate your input.

"It was probably named after a Prince, therefore Princes Highway"
Then it would be Prince's
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, Jan 03, 2018 at 14:31

Wednesday, Jan 03, 2018 at 14:31
It will be Princess’ before much longer, everything else is being emasculated.
I live near a major provincial city on the Prince’s Highway & it really irks me that it is so often referred to as the Princess Highway, even in local business’ advertising.

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Follow Up By: Croc099 - Wednesday, Jan 03, 2018 at 14:41

Wednesday, Jan 03, 2018 at 14:41
I know the pain. My street, Nicoll Ave gets Nickel, Nicole or Nickle all the time. The postie is used it though.
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Follow Up By: Michael H9 - Wednesday, Jan 03, 2018 at 15:06

Wednesday, Jan 03, 2018 at 15:06
It's been pronounced Princess since I can remember. They even say that on the traffic reports on Sydney radio. Go figure. :-)
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Follow Up By: Croc099 - Wednesday, Jan 03, 2018 at 15:23

Wednesday, Jan 03, 2018 at 15:23
I suppose the lack of an apostrophe confuses people, including me. Unless the naming party deliberately intended the plural form then it should be just Prince Hwy or Prince's Hwy if named after the Prince and even Princes' if named after more than one.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, Jan 03, 2018 at 16:34

Wednesday, Jan 03, 2018 at 16:34
I think it may have been named to honour Prince Albert.
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Follow Up By: Member - Charlie B2 - Saturday, Jan 06, 2018 at 08:07

Saturday, Jan 06, 2018 at 08:07
Hi everyone,

It's been a while, but if you check back in history, I think you'll find it was originally Prince's Highway - the same name applied to the coastal (or almost coastal ??) section here in SA.

However, when computers came into use in government departments and the Geographical Names Act came into effect, oh, probably 30-odd years ago, all place and road/street names in this state and, I understand, the whole country, which had previously contained an apostrophe, had those apostrophes unceremoniously removed. Hence, Sellick's Hill became Sellicks Hill, Prince's Highway became Princes Highway and so on.

As for pronouncing Princes as Princess, who knows? Laziness, lack of understanding, or even carelessness perhaps originally, which may have become entrenched through word of mouth, just like the game of Chinese whispers.

If I'm mistaken, please correct me, because my older brain might be starting to fade, but I'm pretty certain that this is the explanation.
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Sunday, Jan 07, 2018 at 12:48

Sunday, Jan 07, 2018 at 12:48
Yes, Charlie, I think you may be right.

I remember reading a column by Gareth Powell, the then Fairfax computer columnist and, I think, travel writer to a lesser degree.

He was bemoaning the loss of apostrophes when the powers-that-be reviewed some of the signage on the Hume Hwy, in particular Run o' Waters creek which the shiney bums changed to Run Of Waters - a little less poetic in his view.

I'm not sure, but I think he and maybe some locals won the day re the "f" in "of", but they never got the apostrophe back, just a couple of added hyphens, IIRC. Pretty sure it's Run-O-Waters. Various references spell it with and without the hyphens, but Gareth's despised "f" has gone :-)
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Reply By: Croc099 - Friday, Jan 05, 2018 at 20:42

Friday, Jan 05, 2018 at 20:42
A big thanks to everybody who gave valuable information. Much appreciated and I hope in time that I can return the favour to others.

After a lot of thought we've decided to head down the Human Hwy and then the Monaro as far as Cooma and take the Snowy Mts Hwy into Bega and on to Eden.

Three days later off to Melbourne for five days to see relatives. We'll be in Melbourne anyway so it will be easier to head to the Great Ocean Road via Geelong. Last time I did the Great Ocean Rd the part around Otway was dirt. Then it's back home to Sydney. Haven't decided which way though.

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