Travelling with your dog

Submitted: Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 09:45
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Time for a new thread, the other one seems to be going off the rails. Seems by the time a thread gets to 20 posts it turns hostile in this forum.

To all those that travel responsibly with their pets, what are some of your most memorable trips that others might want to enjoy?

Try to keep this one friendly.
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Reply By: Member -Pinko (NSW) - Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 10:32

Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 10:32
I should have my Kelpie pup by April.
Her home will be a wire dog crate when we cannot watch her.
She will be trained from week three in a crate and even with the door open it becomes a place of solitude.
And will obviously travel with us.
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Reply By: Member - McLaren3030 - Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 10:38

Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 10:38
Qldcamper, I apologise if I misled you with regard to pets in The Simpson Desert National Park. The NPWS website does stipulate that you can transit National Parks with pets, but they must remain in the vehicle. This obviously means you cannot camp in a National Park with a pet (service dogs excepted).

In 2004, we travelled extensively in the Kimberley region, and while we did not have our dogs with us, we came across a lovely couple who were travelling with their small dog. Every time we came across them, they were very responsible with their dog, ensuring it did not bother other people.

As for us, we have travelled the Oodnadatta Track several times with our dogs without issue. In 2016, We went to Ullaru, Kings Canyon, Devils Marbles, back through Alice Springs, following the Old Ghan railway line to Finley, then through Abminga Ruins, Hamilton Station and on to the Oodnadatta.

Last year we travelled across the Nullarbor to Kalgoorlie. Then on to the Surveyor Generals Corner, then on to Giles, Docker River, Ullaru, then back down the Oodnadatta and Home to Melbourne. All these trips and others, we did with our dogs, a Rhodesian Ridgeback, a Labradoodle, & a Toy Poodle. The Ridgeback & Labradoodle belong to my brother-in-law in his car, & the our Toy Poodle in our car.

Maintaining control over you pets is extremely important, upsetting other travelers is a sure way of making things difficult for others who travel with their pets. We tend to bush camp, and only use caravan parks when we need a shower or wash clothes. There are many Caravan Parks that are pet friendly, it just takes a bit of research on the net to find them.

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Follow Up By: qldcamper - Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 11:19

Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 11:19
Thanks for that.
I have not travelled with our dog before and haven't had the chance to do much travelling in the past ten years so am just in the planning stage now setting up the trailer the way that suits us, will be trying to avoid caravan parks as much as possible, there will be places we want to visit which wont be suitable to trailers or dogs so have to factor this in to the trips, hence the questions here.

I have been to the rock a couple of times as with the rest of the places around Alice many years ago when my brother was a tour guide there when the chalets were still round the rock before the resort was built, but the wife hasn't seen it so probably 2 or 3 nights in the area.

Hoping to spend much of this trip in the Kimberly and possibly the Pilbara as a tourist without the company restrictions I am used to.
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Follow Up By: Member - silkwood - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2018 at 20:15

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2018 at 20:15
Can't even have them in the vehicle transiting within the relevant Desert National Parks in SA.
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Follow Up By: Member - silkwood - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2018 at 20:19

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2018 at 20:19
BTW, please don't take that comment as negative, or hostile. Simply clarifying an issue.

Personally I usually don't see the majority of travelling dog owners to be a problem. Most keep their dog under control and avoid National Parks (unless permitted). Like many issues, it is those who do not stick to this who create a bad impression for all.

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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Wednesday, Jan 24, 2018 at 17:45

Wednesday, Jan 24, 2018 at 17:45
Even local parks can be an issue in SA.
We did a nice Fleurieu Peninsula day run some years ago with a forum 4WD group, was advised lunch would be in Deep Ck Cons Pk, and it was no dogs.

Unknown to the group in general, one vehicle had a small dog in the vehicle, and it never came out, however while we had a lengthy bbq lunch, a ranger drove through, saw the dog in the vehicle, and the owner was spoken to and fined.
They were nicely spoken to the Ranger etc, even after they were told a fine would have to be issued, so it wasn't attitude, simply no leeway on the matter.

For what its worth, it's not so much the animal attacking anything or people in general, or that dogs can turn wild if lost in a park etc . . . more that they leave scents (urinating especially), and native animals have good noses, it spooks them.
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Follow Up By: Member - silkwood - Wednesday, Jan 24, 2018 at 20:36

Wednesday, Jan 24, 2018 at 20:36
This is part of the problem. Dog owners often presume it is an unreasonable imposition. "Why isn't my dog permitted if I keep it under control?"

Unfortunately it is not widely clarified that dogs urinating in the area can attract wild dogs and foxes.

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Follow Up By: braggy - Wednesday, Jan 24, 2018 at 22:05

Wednesday, Jan 24, 2018 at 22:05
There's another thread about dogs in NPs.

Isn't this thread about memorable trips with dogs ?
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Reply By: Member - William B (The Shire) - Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 11:28

Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 11:28
Hello,

We travel with our Mini Foxy on most trips, left him at home when we did the Simpson but travelled with us on our Canning trip a few years ago.

One thing we did was put a muzzle on him so he didn't pick up any 1080 poison.
It was funny when people saw this little dog with a muzzle on, they wanted to know if he was dangerous. Lol.

We try to take him on as many trips as possible because it keeps the Little Princess happy.

I have never found that taking a dog that is well controlled a problem, it sometimes is a bit of a hassle if there is somewhere you can't take a dog when travelling but that's the decision we have made and if the place seems worth while we mark it down for a revisit later.

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Follow Up By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 12:59

Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 12:59
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William, In the past, it was common to put "E&OE" on documents.
It stood for "Errors and Omissions Excepted" lol
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Reply By: RMD - Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 12:46

Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 12:46
No one was hostile in the last post. Some a bit flippant but harmless and pointing out the obvious.
People seem use the "cry foul card" when they don't get favourable replies it seems.
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 13:06

Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 13:06
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Actually, this Thread falls within the "Inappropriate Rule" which includes making posts on the same topic as an existing active post, e.g. "Dogs in the Deserts".
But I'm not telling the Moderators. lol
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Follow Up By: Member - Bigfish - Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 17:02

Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 17:02
This post is asking about travels with dogs. Nothing about deserts Allan. I reckon I,d take my foxy with me more often but I am afraid of the little bugger rounding up a snake that could prove her undoing! My dog is part of the family and gets precedence over visitors. Upsets the in-laws a little...but who cares. If you can take your dog and have an enjoyable holiday then go for it. Lifes too short wondering what might have been. Common sense and respect for fellow campers/travelers will see you have a stress free trip.
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 18:10

Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 18:10
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Your'e right of course Bigfish.
Clever idea. If the Thread goes sour, change the title and start again,
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Follow Up By: qldcamper - Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 18:45

Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 18:45
just let them get on with their arguments and try to find out some useful info.
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Follow Up By: Member - silkwood - Wednesday, Jan 24, 2018 at 20:40

Wednesday, Jan 24, 2018 at 20:40
"My dog is part of the family and gets precedence over visitors."

Your dog may be part of your family (I can understand that).

So long as you realise your particular family is restricted in where they are allowed to travel.

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Follow Up By: Member - Bigfish - Wednesday, Jan 24, 2018 at 21:22

Wednesday, Jan 24, 2018 at 21:22
Thats why common sense and respect was mentiond silkwood. Been around the bush long enough to know whats what.
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Reply By: Dean K3 - Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 17:15

Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 17:15
Just don't do what some muppet in perth did recently kept his dog (bull mastif) inside his car for 1/2 hour whilst he filled in rental application.

Was only a 28 degree day but inside car was enough for poor dog to go into cardiac arrest - a trainee vet attempted to do CPR on it plus dose it down with running water from a tap - with no luck reviving the dog.

Hopefully RSPCA will be laying charges against owner - as weak as their laws are compared to human activities are concerned
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Reply By: IvanTheTerrible - Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 19:33

Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 19:33
Got to have a Red Dog.



He even has his own swag.

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Follow Up By: Member - Outback Gazz - Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 19:54

Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 19:54
Nice looking dog !
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Follow Up By: mike39 - Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 20:00

Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 20:00
Great pics there Ivan TT.
We travelled for years with dogs, never any problems.
Our last one, Peggy, a 32kg. brindle B.Terrier was the most gentle dog, for a BT extremely obedient but with an unfortunate (typical) dislike for any other dog.
Yes, she did visit many NP's but without any adverse repercussions. Never unsupervised, she would prop and with a front leg poised alert us to any reptile intruder.
Similarly, in a remote bush camp she was our "over the horizon" early warning system. Low growls and ears rotating as she sussed out the direction of approach.
Sadly, at nearly 13 and a couple of 100000km. of travel, mammary tumours were her ending. Nearly 6 years ago, but we sure still miss her.
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Follow Up By: IvanTheTerrible - Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 20:05

Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 20:05
I rescued him just before he got a bullet. Our only problem with him is bindie's and prickles. We avoid national parks like the plague. We drove through Lake Mungo on our first trip with him and could'nt camp but the dogs we heard when we drove past the main camp area that was full of big caravans and motorhomes made us cringe. We went back a few months later and there were visible dogs in the main camp area
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 20:26

Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 20:26
That's a sensible swag for a dog!

Hessian "mattress" and plenty of wind break. Gets cold in the interior, with often severe wind chill factor.

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Follow Up By: IvanTheTerrible - Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 21:09

Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 21:09
We woke up one morning at Tibooburra and he had frost on him. His problem was we had set him up to far from our swag
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Follow Up By: IvanTheTerrible - Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 21:11

Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 21:11
MAXIE SWAGS.


In case anyone wants a swag
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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 21:56

Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 21:56
HI qldcamper

You can still get to see most of Australia where there are no National Parks.

Here some places where you can travel with your mate....legally.


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I can go on, but just be a responsible dog own, as most people are and keep away from National Parks.
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Follow Up By: Member - David M (SA) - Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 22:21

Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 22:21
And not a muzzle in sight.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 23:01

Saturday, Jan 20, 2018 at 23:01
We are on the ball Dave

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Follow Up By: Member - David M (SA) - Sunday, Jan 21, 2018 at 08:48

Sunday, Jan 21, 2018 at 08:48
Not having a dig Steven. Just happens so quickly.
Two things I hear all to often when over the West.
My dog will only eat what I give it.
I don't need a GPS. I know where I am at all times by the position of the Sun.
Looking at your picture of the Tanami, right down in the bottom left hand corner I think I spy a little nugget. :)
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Sunday, Jan 21, 2018 at 09:30

Sunday, Jan 21, 2018 at 09:30
Hi Dave

I know where you are coming from and we never ever take any chances, what so ever. If in an area where there is 1080, that is another ball game, as I know just how critical it is and heard some real horror stories from station friends.

One friend from a station in the Northern Territory will not bait within 30 kilometres from the homestead and another friend from up near Broken Hill (inside South Australia, but closer to the Hill ) does the same, having lost both pet and working dogs to baits.

That is why if in any area that we are in doubt, the dogs are never let off lead and I am always on the lookout for anything strange on the ground.

Not sure what that is near the dropper, but it was not a nugget.



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Follow Up By: qldcamper - Sunday, Jan 21, 2018 at 10:25

Sunday, Jan 21, 2018 at 10:25
Putting together another plan, just have to buy some decent maps to see just what is and isn't in parks or reserves, thanks again for your help.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Sunday, Jan 21, 2018 at 10:46

Sunday, Jan 21, 2018 at 10:46
There is some great country out there qldcamper and where ever you go, you have a great time.



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Follow Up By: Member - McLaren3030 - Sunday, Jan 21, 2018 at 16:41

Sunday, Jan 21, 2018 at 16:41
qldcamper, I find Hema Maps probably the most helpful & accurate. You can purchase individual maps for the area you wish to travel around, or buy a Hema Australia Road & 4WD Atlas. This is around $90 and has a different scale to the individual maps, but I find it very useful, and travel with it all the time. You can use this along with the individual maps. I also use a Hema Navigator in the car for "real time" positioning.

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Follow Up By: IvanTheTerrible - Sunday, Jan 21, 2018 at 17:50

Sunday, Jan 21, 2018 at 17:50
Parks SA are brilliant at answering question about their parks. It was them that told us we can travel through parks without a fee and with dogs as long as we dont stop. Their facebook and email are invaluable. May pay to check out other states parks dept social media for help

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Reply By: braggy - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2018 at 09:23

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2018 at 09:23
Take your best mate, not going to NPs is not that greater compromise,
in fact you may do better. by not going to them.
6 years of travel with him and don't think we have missed much



















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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2018 at 10:03

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2018 at 10:03
Wow, that is one big boy you have there !
Love the last shot, his head is maybe 3x the size that of your lady !!
Do you know his weight ? I'd guess 70 - 80kg.

Neighbours across the road have litter of 13 Bull Mastiff / English Bull Mastiff pubs the other day, mother is 75kg, father 85kg.
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Follow Up By: braggy - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2018 at 10:40

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2018 at 10:40
He is an Italian Mastiff (Cane Corso) they are smaller than most other Mastiffs.

He is around the 70kgs mark,

He seems small to us our previous dog was a Great Dane,
who weighed in at 105kgs
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Follow Up By: Member - McLaren3030 - Tuesday, Jan 23, 2018 at 11:54

Tuesday, Jan 23, 2018 at 11:54
Hi Braggy, some great photos there. We have a Toy Poodle about 5 kgs. She travels with us to most places.

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