Article Comment: Rudall River

Can anyone that has travelled to rudall river give me an idea of how much fuel you used from either newman or marble bar and back again. I have a hilux kun with a 140L fuel tank i am thinking it will be enough but am keen to hear what others have experienced before i head out there.
Thanks in advance
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Reply By: Les - PK Ranger - Monday, Jul 30, 2018 at 09:17

Monday, Jul 30, 2018 at 09:17
Not sure if this will help you Lachlan, but in June we topped up LRT in the Ranger at Kunawarritji, drove down to Desert Queen Baths, went out via Hanging Rock / Skull Springs Rd to Nullagine, Newman, I used 134 lt and that was 1016km.

I anticpate when you said Rudall River, you will be likely aiming for DQB ?
If you also go through Running Waters, Carrawine Gorge, it would be well worth while, just a bit more of a loop.

Either way on a loop, going Talawana Track is a lot faster than our Hanging Rock route.
If you come out via Skull Springs Rd to Nullagine, there is reasonable fuel pricing there too.

Talawana, Skull Springs, Telfer / Ripon Hills Rds, all very good for the mines . . . DQB access is slower but nothing difficult / technical.

If you did a loop Newman, Talawana to Rudall R turnoff, up, in and out DQB, up to Telfer Rd, to Carawine turn, the gorge, down to Running Waters, then Skull Springs Rd to Nullagine, that is ~ 800km (rough route done on HEMA).

My guess if if you drive steady, don't drive a lot of extra km doing side trips etc, you could make that ok, but I would take 1 x 20lt jerry to be safe.

From Nullagine you could go south back to Newman or North to Marble Bar.
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Follow Up By: Lachlan T - Monday, Jul 30, 2018 at 10:55

Monday, Jul 30, 2018 at 10:55
Thanks mate i think ill just take an extra 20L jerry just to keep my mind at ease i was thinking i would do the loop from marble bar/telfer through to tallawana track/newman stopping off at desert queens baths and hanging rock
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Monday, Jul 30, 2018 at 11:57

Monday, Jul 30, 2018 at 11:57
Okay, if you go the Hanging Rock way, keep in mind, it is slow, and will use a lot more fuel.
If you are good with nav and confident remote, then going on via Christie Crossing, up to Skull Springs Rd, the track is VERY hard to follow at times, very overgrown, lots of vehicle pinstriping . . . but you will see some amazing things on the way . . .
Watrara series of pools / waterholes, Curun Curran rockhole, couple of nice Tarcunjah creek bed crossings, Hanging Rock, Meeting Gorge, Bocabree Hill, and Christie X . . . the roads around Skull Springs Bee Hill mine are ALL changed to Hema maps.
You will possibly have to go north from Christie X if going soon-ish, you can't go south from there to Talawana at the moment, Balfour Downs are (where ?) mustering.
We wanted to go that way, but had to change plans and go Skull Springs.
Give them a call to confirm if south travel is ok to Talawana.
After Watrara pools the going gets a lot harder, so a quick trip in and out to there might be a good alternative, and consider my ~ 800km advice above.
Just not happy seeing someone go that way if they might get into strife, we were 4 vehicles, very good with mech / resourceful etc, good at the nav and track finding.
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Follow Up By: cookie1 - Monday, Jul 30, 2018 at 16:11

Monday, Jul 30, 2018 at 16:11
Just something to be mindful of, we had a sharp rock at the bottom of the final creek crossing into Desert Queen Baths tear a hole in our sidewall of our tyre rendering it useless and the only close spots for a new one is either Kunawarritja or Pt Hedland.
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Follow Up By: Lachlan T - Monday, Jul 30, 2018 at 17:12

Monday, Jul 30, 2018 at 17:12
I am slightly hesitant to go by myself but I am a mechanic and also very experienced in outback travel being an ex desert roadtrain driver. that being said if anyone is keen to team up ill be in newman on the night of the 10th august heading out to Rudall river on the 11th
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Reply By: Member - peter_mcc - Monday, Jul 30, 2018 at 12:37

Monday, Jul 30, 2018 at 12:37
Last year we went Newman - Talawana Track - Tjungkulatjatjarra Pool - Desert Queen Baths - towards Telfer - across past Nifty Mine - Woodie Woodie Mine - Running Waters - Ripon Hills Rd - Marble Bar.

We were in a diesel Prado (150l tank) towing a heavily laden Tvan with 2 adults/3 kids in the car. We had 2 x 20l jerry cans that we used as well but I don't remember being stressed about making it to Marble Bar.

The road to Nifty Mine had been recently graded when we were there and didn't have any signs saying we should stay out. Once we got to the Nifty Mine it turned into a 4+ lane outback highway (really smooth) to Woodie Woodie mine. Looking back the other way from the Woodie Woodie end there were signs saying "no entry" (but nothing the way we came...). It was, however, super sandy for long long stretches - I was stuck in 2nd gear for ages from memory -

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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Monday, Jul 30, 2018 at 13:11

Monday, Jul 30, 2018 at 13:11
The re is a new security gate at north end into Telfer now, you must go to office and get escorted through to southern exit onto Rudall R Rd.

Not sure how it can work the other way, you have no gate at south end, though there may be a sign to radio security to get through . . . not sure we went south.

All those roads were great to drive, DQB access (as mentioned) slower but not hard.

Woodie Woodie was a lot of bitumen, and again dirt was very good.
You can traverese Woodie Woodie to the east, comes out at
Rudall R Rd (just north Moses Chair), but we didn't have this in our plan.
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Follow Up By: Member - peter_mcc - Monday, Jul 30, 2018 at 13:16

Monday, Jul 30, 2018 at 13:16
We went the other direction to you and came out at Woodie Woodie. It wasn't in our plan either... but seemed like a good idea at the time! The main Rudall River NP road was pretty corrugated and the road to Woodie Woodie was smooooooottthhhhhhh - at least for the first 15 minutes... After a while I was wishing we'd gone the other way. Worked out in the end though we did a lot of that road in the dark.

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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Monday, Jul 30, 2018 at 13:19

Monday, Jul 30, 2018 at 13:19
Roads do change so fast out there, all the mining $$$ being thrown around for access, a lot of new mine projects going on.

It's great out there, was my first WA trip, will be loads more I hope to come.
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Follow Up By: Member - peter_mcc - Monday, Jul 30, 2018 at 13:21

Monday, Jul 30, 2018 at 13:21
I think DQB was one of our favourite spots on a 10 week trip in NW WA - unfortunately it's a long long way from home so it will be a while before I can get back there. Boo hoo :-(

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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Monday, Jul 30, 2018 at 15:32

Monday, Jul 30, 2018 at 15:32
10 weeks in the NW would have been excellent, Peter.
We had ~ 5 weeks total, but saw so much from Nuytsland in the south to to the Pilbara region.

DQB is a pretty spot all right, was lucky enough to catch the main pool in a shower of light rain on our second day there, just perfect.

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Reply By: Member - Cuppa - Tuesday, Jul 31, 2018 at 22:45

Tuesday, Jul 31, 2018 at 22:45
Left Karlmilyi a couple of days ago. Filled at Punmu ($3.00 litre) giving us around 1000km range. Drove to Telfer & down to Desert queen baths & later to Jarra Pool before getting back to the middle track & down to the Talawana to Newman . Still had enough for around 300kms left. Intercooled 4.2 Patrol towing a Tvan.
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Tuesday, Jul 31, 2018 at 22:54

Tuesday, Jul 31, 2018 at 22:54
Did Punmu off you $2.50/lt for cash ?
I'm not sure if they do unless asked.
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Follow Up By: Lachlan T - Wednesday, Aug 01, 2018 at 01:11

Wednesday, Aug 01, 2018 at 01:11
Thanks bud. I ill be taking a couple of jerry cans just to be sure but from what you say newman to marble bar sounds doable
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Follow Up By: Member - Cuppa - Wednesday, Aug 01, 2018 at 08:46

Wednesday, Aug 01, 2018 at 08:46
Les, the chap at Punmu said he wished he knew who put the $2.50 for cash story on the net,so he could throttle them. Everyone has been asking & it has never been the case. He did however round our bill down from $304.40 to $300. I liked Punmu, very different to Kunawarritji.
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Follow Up By: Les - PK Ranger - Wednesday, Aug 01, 2018 at 12:30

Wednesday, Aug 01, 2018 at 12:30
One of our party got fuel there on the return leg, offered cash option but wanted to pay by card, so was $3 for him.
I just wondered if they kept it quiet sometimes to stay under the radar.
We got it first hand from a caravanner at well 33 too, who had purchased there the day before.
Father and son there, I wonder if one does and one doesn’t ?
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