Incorrect reporting by the ABC

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Hi All

As a lot of folks like to head up this way for the dry I thought the following may be of interest.

I would like to bring attention to the incorrect reporting on the ABC over the weekend. The story relates to the sad situation of many children in remote communities suffering from Rheumatic heart disease.

As most of the Forum members live "down south" and may never have visited a community or if they have it's most likely they didn't spend much time inside the local housing outside of Govt buildings, I would like to give a slightly different version of what was reported on the ABC

The reporting of the story was as such that one was lead to believe that the Hygiene issue aside from over crowding is due to the local population not having running water.

This is completely false. I have worked in Maningrida many times. This work involved working inside the local housing. Every house I have visited has had working taps. There is no lack of water for washing or drinking.

This is the written version of the story, the verbal was much more biased in it's tone towards the water issue "but what can you do when you don't have running water". Gave to the viewer the impression there was no water in the town.

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Reply By: RMD - Monday, Sep 03, 2018 at 20:45

Monday, Sep 03, 2018 at 20:45
Lyndon
ABC, stands for “A Biased communicator”. They are fast losing credibility with their biased views, hardly wise or good for Australian society, almost an enemy among us. Rarely do their journalists get things correct. Always best to fool the masses instead of telling the truth. Thanks for informing us as to the real situation.
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Monday, Sep 03, 2018 at 22:29

Monday, Sep 03, 2018 at 22:29
Roflmao. You're 3 days late for Friday Funnies.
Is the ABC perfect? Obviously not, unlike the rest of us. Why would you expect it to be? It's light years ahead of any commercial media and has been for decades. If you have REAL concerns and examples of bias/lies or whatever you think the problem is write to them or your local MP.

Just a bit of reading for you. Plenty more around if you look.
ABC Maningrida Report
This OS report mentions the water issue.
DailyMail Maningrida Report
"Laynhapuy Health manager Jeff Cook spoke to NT News earlier this year and said he sees cases of rheumatic heart disease far too often.
'It’s pretty clear that it’s overcrowding. Things like access to a shower that has hot water. Or access to a shower. Or a washing machine, it’s a disease of poverty,' he said."
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Reply By: Kilcowera Station Stay - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 07:00

Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 07:00
Thanks for telling it like it is Lyndon. The ABC is a national disgrace. When I think about what it should be and could be I get so wild! And taxpayers fund the salaries of the smug, overpaid know it alls on there. Well come to think of it they are pushing a barrow and how clever of someone to be making us suckers pay for it too. Toni
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Follow Up By: Outback Epicurean - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 09:42

Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 09:42
As said by others, the ABC is not perfect but vastly superior to other alternatives such as the Murdoch groups and the shock jocks in Sydney.
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Follow Up By: nats - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 21:26

Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 21:26
Toni,
I can only assume this post is a joke. The ABC a national disgrace! If you are not joking you have my sympathy. Those voices in your head must be very troubling.
Nats.
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Thursday, Sep 06, 2018 at 00:07

Thursday, Sep 06, 2018 at 00:07
It may well be heading that way Nats but it won't ever reach your cherished goal in our lifetime, even with the funding slashes under Turnbull and its dumbing down under the guidance of the CEO, ex-News Corp Michelle Guthrie.
The problem with posts like yours, and KSS' for that matter, are the same problems which beset this nation generally. Extreme, hyperbolic ideology is replacing moderate reasoned views. I'll bite though - which part of the ABC is a national disgrace? Give us some examples - not generalised waffle - of the "disgrace" you've uncovered. The ABC Board - appointed under the direction of the government - will be very interested. Can't see any commies or obvious lefties among them myself but I'm sure you have the good oil on them so feel free to share it.
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Follow Up By: OutBack Wanderers - Thursday, Sep 06, 2018 at 21:01

Thursday, Sep 06, 2018 at 21:01
When the ABC informed the Taliban that Prince Harry was on his way to Afghanistan, his tour of duty was cut short.

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Follow Up By: nats - Thursday, Sep 06, 2018 at 22:21

Thursday, Sep 06, 2018 at 22:21
OutBack Wanderers,

“When the ABC informed the Taliban that Prince Harry was on his way to Afghanistan, his tour of duty was cut short”.

A good or a bad thing? Don’t quite see your point. Are you accusing the ABC of helping keep a Royal unfairly safe? Please explain.
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Thursday, Sep 06, 2018 at 22:30

Thursday, Sep 06, 2018 at 22:30
You'll have to refresh my memory OW. A credible link will do. Did the ABC SMS the Taliban, skype them, send smoke signals? How did the ABC know where he was?

You might find this illuminating.
Australian Magazine Breaks Blackout

Who owns New Idea? 7 West Media, supporters of right wing politics in this country.
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Thursday, Sep 06, 2018 at 23:23

Thursday, Sep 06, 2018 at 23:23
My sincere apologies Nats, I completely misread your first post. I am suitably abashed. That will teach me to pay more attention to detail in future.
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Follow Up By: Michael H9 - Thursday, Sep 06, 2018 at 23:38

Thursday, Sep 06, 2018 at 23:38
Outback Wanderers.....are you spreading fake news?
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Follow Up By: OutBack Wanderers - Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 00:04

Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 00:04
Harry's first deployment to Afghanistan, in late 2007, was scheduled to last three months but was cut short after 10 weeks when his cover was blown. Harry was immediately removed from the field amid fears he could become a terrorist target.

"At the end of the day, you're in a war zone and you're responsible to look after yourself, the guy to the left, and the guy to the right. And I think it's really that simple," he told ABC News' Bob Woodruff in 2011 of his service.

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Follow Up By: OutBack Wanderers - Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 00:08

Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 00:08
Thanks to the big mouths at the Australian ABC who told the World in 2007 that Prince Harry was on his way to Afghanistan.

With "friends" like these (ABC) who needs enemies

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Follow Up By: 9900Eagle - Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 04:36

Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 04:36
As usual social media rules with BS. Murdoch's New Idea was the one that released the news on Prince Harry, but it seems better to all get on the wagon and bag the ABC.

Who really let the dogs out
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Follow Up By: 9900Eagle - Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 04:55

Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 04:55
BTW Lyndon, there is nothing wrong with your post and I have no reason to doubt it's accuracy. It is just how people have used it.
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 11:07

Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 11:07
There is not a shred of evidence that the ABC broke the blackout. Had that been the case all hell would have broken lose from the usual apoplectic rwnj suspects and The ABC would have received well-deserved and reasoned criticism from the more balanced sections of our community.

I expect you'll be along to correct the record and apologise shortly OW?
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Follow Up By: Member - David M (SA) - Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 11:21

Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 11:21
Was that you I spotted on the panel of Q&A last week Bazooka. :)
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 11:33

Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 11:33
Lol. I don't like the show Dave. Far too frustrating and annoying. Worse still it highlights just how uncompromising, unsympathetic, complacent and blinkered we seem to be becoming. Don't like lies and ignorance peddled by either side of politics, and can't stand to see uninformed rubbish peddled on public forums.
There are good people right around this country, always has been and always will be. My question is when and why did we become so hard-hearted and so bl...dy complacent?
Different topic but why aren't we up in arms about our gas prices and returns to the common wealth for example? Read this, but be prepared to be dismayed at what our politicians have and haven't done on our behalf:
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Reply By: Member - Bigfish - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 07:02

Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 07:02
ABC is still the tv channel/radio station preferred by big majority of Australians. Unfortunately it is run by humans who can make mistakes. Until we find a species capable of running the ABC with perfection 100% of the time...we will get errors at times.. however not the fake, misleading, sensationalist dribble many media outlets try and have us swallow. Health is still a big issue in Aboriginal communities. I put a lot of the issues down to over crowding and in many cases poverty. I,ve worked in and visited dozens of remote Aboriginal communities over the last 2 decades and know a bit about their issues. Having kids suddenly dropping dead from heart disease should not be allowed to continue.. Mealy mouthed Southern (and some Northern) pollies need to stay in these communities for a month or two before they would have any comprehension of their needs or what remedies are required..It is a complex issue but it can be solved. Throwing large amounts of money (where most disappears on bureaucrats and bureaucracy) and splashing your face on the front page or tv is a joke.

If you dont like the ABC then simply dont listen or watch it! Simple as. Plenty of commercial channels I dont watch.
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Follow Up By: RMD - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 09:23

Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 09:23
Despite having their funding cut, and appropriate it is to do that, the, "All Bogan Company", has continued to lower and lower their quality of delivery to the Australian people. They haven't woken up yet, DUMB.
While they continue to heavily promote one side of the political spectrum and largely hammer and be critical of the opposite view, is NOT what they are there for.

They start and control many political stouches by claiming News Polls results.
They manufacture the news polls to sway public opinion, always to the same side of course.

Local to me the morning ABC radio is not worth listening to, it used to be, not now though. Morons run the show, no class at all.

All it takes is someone with a bit of guts to enforce standards of delivery and speech and the ABC, will, and could be, good again into the future.

Believe it or not, the ABC has an all encompassing department which deals with the spoken word and quality of presentations.

When more than 70% of all ABC tv and radio presenters say,eg, BREGGSIT instead of BREXIT and Eggsit instead of EXIT, on national TV and radio, it seems the Department of the Spoken Word are either asleep of their communication channels have been cut off. KIds in kinder do better than that.
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Follow Up By: Member - Rowdy6032 (WA) - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 13:03

Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 13:03
Simple not to watch the ABC, not as simple to stop my taxpayers money propping it up.

Let the ABC supporters pay for it.

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Follow Up By: Member - johnat - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 14:49

Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 14:49
@RMD ... Of course, the Murdoch and Fairfax press/TV/Radio are not in the least bit biased, are they!
Alan Jones is proud of his role in the recent Liberal Party shenannigans, and he's one of the less obnoxious ones!
If the ABC were run according to some here, there'd be a single bias - and that to the hard right of the political spectrum - it'd come from every single "news" medium without any balancing opinion from others.

I'm far more likely to believe what is broadcast on the ABC than on a Murdoch/Fairfax/Sky news outlet!
I wish I could stop my tax money going to support Barnaby Joyce, but that's not going to happen. I also wish I didn't have to support drug dealers in jail, but that's not going top happen either! So, just suck it up!
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Follow Up By: Member - Rowdy6032 (WA) - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 17:39

Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 17:39
Sorry, can't suck it up, if I wanted to make a donation to Labor or the Greens I would make it direct.

Thanks for your advice though.
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Follow Up By: Member - johnat - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 17:53

Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 17:53
Reality check!
You might not know it, but you make a donation to EVERY political party at every election.
Get used to the fact that the Government makes whatever use of their income (your taxes and mine) they feel is for their best interest, and that might not be in the best interest of the nation!
You only get to choose who runs the country, not what they do with the money. Same as, when you buy a newspaper, you do not get to tell them what to print, whether truth or not!
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Follow Up By: Michael H9 - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 18:46

Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 18:46
The ABC costs everyone 14 cents a day. If the majority of the population want the ABC then you are democratically obliged to suck it up. People who see bias should report it, not just moan about it. Specific examples to pull them into line. Numerous studies have shown that the perceived bias is a right wing fairy tale. If you agree with hard right conservatism then any reporting, whether left or centre will appear as bias. Turnbull got dumped for being left leaning when in reality he's nowhere near it to most "normal" people.
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Follow Up By: Member - lyndon NT - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 19:38

Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 19:38
Interesting where this has gone. Not my original intent or purpose but it is interesting.
From my point of view I love the ABC, without out it we would be living in Donald Trumps American "reality".
It has however brought to my attention that perhaps not everything is as it seems with ABC reporting. Only noticing the fault due to my personal knowledge of the OP.
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Follow Up By: RMD - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 20:30

Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 20:30
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Not sure what studies claim there is no perceived bias by the ABC, only people with one eye and one ear and support union and ALP thuggery would interpret it that way. Just listen and look to find what is left out of ABC reports to see which way they constantly favour. All to support a socialist push.
Most people desire for capitalism but when going to vote many vote for socialism which has never provided for the people. Ask a Russian if in doubt.
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Follow Up By: Michael H9 - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 22:56

Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 22:56
Just Google ABC bias reviews, there are a lot of them.......if you aren't sure. The Abbott Liberal government stacked the ABC management with their cronies, plus hired some journos with right wing cred in an effort to counter the right wing criticism and still it goes on. As far as right wing conservatism goes, anything that isn't their hard line opinion is left wing biased.
While you are Googling, search for Nordic social democracy as a model to aspire to. Nobody in their right mind in this country is interested in adopting the Russian model so why bring it up?
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Thursday, Sep 06, 2018 at 00:19

Thursday, Sep 06, 2018 at 00:19
With nonsense like : "They start and control many political stouches by claiming News Polls results" and "They manufacture the news polls to sway public opinion, always to the same side of course", your opinion ain't worth a cracker RMD. I'm sure what you really meant is that they fix opinion polls (even ones they aren't involved in?), and won't be happy until every government in every state is Labor controlled. Socialism, lol. That old furphy went out decades ago when people decided to actually check under their beds and found the only reds were half drunk bottles of shiraz they'd forgotten about

Michael H9 suggested you google ABC bias. I suggest you take an antacid and perhaps some Imodium first because what you find won't agree with your stomach.
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Reply By: Member - Len & Rhoda - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 11:02

Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 11:02
Lyndon you have highlighted a real issue, dodgy reporting by the media in general regarding the "plight" of Aboriginal Australia is very one sided. Its a pity that the bleeding hearts don't spend more than a couple of weeks a year in the country. Come and live in some of the remote towns around the country for a year or 2 and see where our tax dollar is wasted and where the real problem is.
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Follow Up By: Member - lyndon NT - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 19:53

Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 19:53
Indeed! I can't say I have the solution but I can say that the current "plan" isn't working to well............
As we who live in the North know, funding will not solve the problem. In fact I would think that almost anyone living in Australia would fall over if told the actual $ figure spent per year.
I may be wrong in the following but my understanding is that Maningrida has a population of around 3000. There are around 400-500 dwellings. Mainly consisting of 3 bedroom 1 bathroom homes.
Whilst a contributing factor I don't think overcrowding is the major issue.
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Follow Up By: PhilD - Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 22:42

Tuesday, Sep 04, 2018 at 22:42
I haven't been back to Maningrida in the last few years, but the housing estate over the back of the airstrip cost around $1m per house to construct and service. Who knows what condition they are in currently. The problem is far far wider than the money spent on health, welfare and housing. There were 28 health professionals in Maningrida when I was there for a community of 3000, and that was not enough. Disease was still rife, but not through lack of facilities or available care.
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Follow Up By: Member - lyndon NT - Wednesday, Sep 05, 2018 at 08:15

Wednesday, Sep 05, 2018 at 08:15
Hi Phil

Yeah,I heard around the 1 million mark also. They refer to that as "new sub". Condition? Maybe not as bad as the main town but trashed none the less.
Thanks for the info, I didn't know medical staff numbers.
Your post should be "ringing bells" for tax payers down south. If only people could have a honest conversation regarding the issues...........
The type of housing being built is not what is needed.
For the tropic's I would be suggesting an open type of shed with walls positioned in such a fashion that one can move around to get out of the weather. Some sort of fire pit. A maintenance free long drop and some sort of indestructible wash basin and outdoor shower.
For you folks reading this who have not been in an indigenous house. There is NO furniture, NONE, inside these houses. Just some foam mattresses randomly strewn around.
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Follow Up By: PhilD - Wednesday, Sep 05, 2018 at 11:02

Wednesday, Sep 05, 2018 at 11:02
Lyndon, the $1m bought a concrete floor so they don't burn the floor boards when they have a fire inside, cyclone proof walls filled with concrete and roof, ally louvre windows (no glass to break), underground services and bitumen access. Kitchen/living, bathroom and 3 bedrooms. A truck load of concrete made nearby cost 9x normal prices in the city! Everything came on the barge, and workers were set up in their own camp. But, I understand that the access road flooded across the top of the airstrip, so I don't know what they have done for all weather access.
When I was there the biggest maintenance item was oven doors....they make great trampolines. Sorry, like you, I am disillusioned about the money spent by well meaning bureaucrats and politicians who don't have any idea about how to solve the issues. Neither do I for that matter, but what happens now does not work!
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Reply By: Member - Paul M55 - Wednesday, Sep 05, 2018 at 23:17

Wednesday, Sep 05, 2018 at 23:17
ABC all lies and deception as per normal lefty bias
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Follow Up By: Outback Epicurean - Thursday, Sep 06, 2018 at 07:53

Thursday, Sep 06, 2018 at 07:53
Well, based on this thread, about half of the population think the ABC is a lefty pinko biased group and half think it tells it like it is. Based on these results, seems the ABC have the balance about spot on!
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 11:17

Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 11:17
"All lies"? My guess is that you're completely unaware of the huge range of quality content provided by the ABC Paul. Your loss.

If you want to listen to the best hour of radio anywhere in the country I suggest you seek out Conversations with Richard Fidler. Available on podcast as well. Back Roads, Australian Story - very good TV about Aussie people and communities. Just a tiny portion of what you can find if you open your eyes, ears and mind.
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Follow Up By: nats - Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 11:20

Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 11:20
Read the links that have been provided. There have never been any official enquiries which have established this bias. The only conclusion I can come to is that people who keep peddling this untruth are doing so for their own political purposes. Ya dreamin’.
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Follow Up By: Member - Paul M55 - Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 11:44

Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 11:44
Bazooka im very aware of abc content i live in the country and travel our wide brown land and listen on average 12 hrs a day.
They are biased left thinking the whole abc. I have no choice news radia,radio national and local very left leaning. Are you a city dweller?
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 14:11

Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 14:11
What difference does it make where I live Paul? I lived in the country for decades, now reside in a medium sized city.

Claims like yours about lies are puerile and don't stand up to any balanced scrutiny. I'm also highly skeptical when "left leaning" generalisations are thrown about.They almost invariably translate to "I can't stomach alternative views and fact-based argument'. Anyone who makes such sweeping claims about the ABC is simply not in the ballpark. Invariably they know sfa about its content and are simply focusing on aspects which don't accord with their own narrow views.

The ABC gave the Rudd and Gillard governments both barrells regularly, sometimes fairly, other times with far more passion than they do normally. Undoubtedly a reaction to the constant "bias' claims from conservatives for many years.

This country needs a balanced media more than ever right now but under Guthrie they're bending over backwards to dumb the organisation down in order to placate a noisy minority. A very unfortunate outcome.

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Follow Up By: Member - Paul M55 - Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 14:26

Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 14:26
Ok ill agree to disagree on there bias. Im fairly sure im in the majority on that opinion.
How come 80% of abc employees either vote labor or greens.
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 14:39

Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 14:39
Doesn't matter whether you're in the majority or not (a majority used to think the world was flat and that child slave labour was okay, etc....) but surveys suggest you're not in the ballpark. Try my links above if you want to know what people think about the ABC.

Your last claim is "interesting" to say the least Dave. One I've never come across but no doubt it will gain legs among those who can't see the obvious holes in it. Where did you get it from or did you simply make it up yourself?
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Follow Up By: Member - peter_mcc - Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 15:21

Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 15:21
I'm intrigued Paul M55 - how do you know how ABC staff vote? Have you done a comparison with other "acceptable" media outlets?

Do they people here who think the ABC is biased to the left think that there are any unbiased media outlets?
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 15:42

Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 15:42
80% of internet statistics are pulled from where the sun don't shine, including that <<<<< one.
Obviously there is no way of knowing ABC employees political leanings let alone who they voted for, but I'm still keen to see Paul's (where did I get Dave from?) answer.
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Follow Up By: 9900Eagle - Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 16:19

Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 16:19
Fact check. A sample of 59 journalists of the ABC were sampled about how they vote. 15 did not bother to reply and of the other 34 that answered 14 said they would vote green. Now the ABC has around 4000 employees. I can't figure out how 80 % of them vote labour or green and I should;d think nobody else would either with that amount surveyed. The other thing that would have to be answered is what part of the country did the 34 come from.

Well isn't that a great way of deciding that the ABC is biased. Next time we have an election we could just get 16000 people to vote and save a fortune.

Guess this one about 80% is busted. Everyone vote for Fred and save Australia.
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 17:23

Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 17:23
That bit of rubbish came from the IPA which has called for the dismantling of the ABC among other things. They are extreme right wing rabble who would tear down the fabric of this nation. There's plenty of commentary about this mob for anyone interested.

Fact check
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Follow Up By: nats - Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 18:35

Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 18:35
Batzooka
You have laboured valiantly to oppose this appalling display of pig-headed stubbornness that proposes that our ABC is a leftist cabal. I salute you. But do really think your correspondents would actually read - let alone understand - that Fact Check link? I think they just like asserting things. They probably aren’t up to much more than that. Perhaps pity is the only response to them? I can’t really imagine how awful it must be to be trapped in an Alan Jones/ Sky News way of seeing (?) the world. All the best to you.
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Reply By: Greg J1 - Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 18:03

Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 18:03
How much of this thread has to do with 4WD, camping or caravanning. I’m sure the op has the best intentions as far as aboriginal people go. I have great respect for the relative few aboriginal people I have had dealings with.

As far as I can see most replies are bagging the abc or supporting them.

Lefts, Rights, Greens, Browns, Brindles or Calathumpioms, whatever your political persuasions, this (loosely termed) debate has stuff all to do what this forum is all about.

Let’s stick to the stuff that matters.

Cheers Greg.
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Follow Up By: Michael H9 - Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 18:37

Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 18:37
Yes, keep the post count down so we don't strain our eyes reading too much. LOL! The ABC is all you have to listen to as you travel out there in a lot of places and is an important source of information for the locals because it isn't profitable for the private guys to operate. Therefore the discussion is relevant. The likes of Alan Jones and company want to close the ABC for one reason only, to get rid of the competition. They spread poison to do it....he proudly spruiks his role in toppling the Prime Minister.
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Follow Up By: Greg J1 - Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 19:16

Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 19:16
Haha micheal.

About as relevant as the thread I started last Friday night about a group of fellas raising money for Prostate Cancer that got shutdown by a mod on here LOL. I can guess which one that was, LOL. Lets just wait till he gets to my age and has been fighting it for the last 7 years, because it wasn’t about 4wding, camping or caravanning.It was removed from the forum.

This thread has nothing to do with travelling our wide brown land. It may have started like that but has degenerated into policitial crap. If you can’t see that well ...

Cheers Greg
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Follow Up By: Michael H9 - Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 21:14

Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 21:14
The thread as posted isn't off topic, it's just the majority of the replies. Still, it's been at the top of the hot threads for 4 days. Bad business to shut it down.
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Follow Up By: Greg J1 - Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 21:18

Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 21:18
And that’s what’s it all about hey !!
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Reply By: Ron N - Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 23:56

Friday, Sep 07, 2018 at 23:56
I'd rather the ABC than the severely-biased Murdoch Press.

Read an interesting comment from a former senior News Corp employee, just the other day.

Rupert Murdoch paid a visit to Australia around 10 days before the Prime Ministership wrangle and jousting.

This commenter said Rupert came to Australia to remove a number of people from his operation, and promote others - as he always does.

He noted that every time Murdoch pays one of his occasional visits to Australia, there's a leadership change in the political spectrum, that suits Murdoch, within a week or two of his visit.

Fact or coincidences? I think the former fits the bill.
At least the ABC isn't run by one omnipotent power mogul.

Hello Rupert, bye-bye Malcolm

The Endless Reign of Rupert Murdoch

Cheers, Ron.
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