What a joke

Submitted: Tuesday, Mar 10, 2020 at 11:49
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We had organised a group of us to head to nighan station for easter and got this email this morning



i'm surprised that a remote station is making this call so early and even making that call at all. Apart from people at the homestead staying the chances of the owners catching a cold let alone coronavirus from guests is soo remote. Really dissapointing they have done this and for the whole year as well . Most people that go here are just 4wd enthusiasts .

lets hope this doesn't flow onto other stations in the area .

Just seems like a copout to me . Maybe i should ring into work and say i'm not coming into work for 2020 because of the coronavirus

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Reply By: Member - Rowdy6032 (WA) - Tuesday, Mar 10, 2020 at 12:09

Tuesday, Mar 10, 2020 at 12:09
The Karara Rangelands are virtually over the road and should suit your purposes.

There could be various reasons why Ninghan have made that decision but it is theirs to make.
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Follow Up By: Dusta - Tuesday, Mar 10, 2020 at 12:20

Tuesday, Mar 10, 2020 at 12:20
I understand there is plenty out there and tbh we will probably go up through mollerin up to lake moore and then across to mt jackson and then keep heading towards niagra dam .

It's just a big call to shut your doors for the entire year because of something that will not even get close to that area .

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Follow Up By: Member - Rowdy6032 (WA) - Tuesday, Mar 10, 2020 at 12:42

Tuesday, Mar 10, 2020 at 12:42
Probably trying to make sure that it doesn't get to that area. You can't just pop down the road to visit the doc. and they have a station to run.
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Follow Up By: Member-George (WA) - Friday, Mar 13, 2020 at 15:22

Friday, Mar 13, 2020 at 15:22
Last time I went there, drove in with the of chance of getting overnight accommodation, we were told that all the accommodation was leased out to a mining company, indefinitely
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Reply By: RMD - Tuesday, Mar 10, 2020 at 14:00

Tuesday, Mar 10, 2020 at 14:00
Dusta
Doesn't sound like a joke.
You can ring into work and let the boss know you won't be there for the rest of 2020. I endorse that, the boss is an understanding person, isn't he/she. Probably think it is a joke from you. However, apart from no doctor down the road for station owners, your situation is entirely different to a station being able to run. If one person there gets it, they all get it, then who runs the station and stock management, will you do it for them if they get crook? I am sure you would do it for them. You won't be missed at work but out there they will be missed. Although many of your travellers are 4wd enthusiasts, it seems they are not station enthusiasts or understanding of their decision. Is it a right or a privilege to be able to go there? I have worked on some stations and looked after some and the owners don't like people who "expect".
"Disappointment comes in various ways in life".
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Follow Up By: Dusta - Tuesday, Mar 10, 2020 at 14:06

Tuesday, Mar 10, 2020 at 14:06
RMD the chance on contracting coronavirus is only high if you come into close contact with someone, within a metre or so for an extended period of time . I am a business owner and have already put into place strict hygiene standards at work for my 13 employess . But i am treating coronavirus no different from a common flu because that's what it is .

the chances of contracting it in the outback are so minimal
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Follow Up By: RMD - Tuesday, Mar 10, 2020 at 14:09

Tuesday, Mar 10, 2020 at 14:09
I googled "Nighan" station and it came up with Ninghan, same as on their email.
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Follow Up By: Dusta - Tuesday, Mar 10, 2020 at 14:11

Tuesday, Mar 10, 2020 at 14:11
well done RMD .
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Thursday, Mar 12, 2020 at 15:16

Thursday, Mar 12, 2020 at 15:16
Think the point is that as time goes on and infection spreads (likely) they can't know whether their city/town visitors have been unknowingly in contact with a carrier Dusta. Understand your frustration but their primary focus is obviously on running the station and limiting any possible exposure. Risk mgt is a combination of both risk, probably not high at this point, and potential damage - significant. Equating COVID-19 with the common flu is a giant leap of faith given we know little about it (which appears to be one of the the major concerns).
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Reply By: Member - DW Lennox Head(NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 10, 2020 at 14:05

Tuesday, Mar 10, 2020 at 14:05
You must be a doctor to make an comment like you have.
It is their decision and you seem to be disrespectful of their decisions.
Like has been said elsewhere, the medical facilities are not a kilometre or so away.
They probably do not need people with your attitude quarantined on the station, too.
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Follow Up By: Zippo - Tuesday, Mar 10, 2020 at 16:35

Tuesday, Mar 10, 2020 at 16:35
In their position I'd make the same (closure) call. I suspect they would have little success trying to quarantine a visitor at their station. Another reason for closing BEFORE that standoff situation occurs.
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Reply By: Phil G - Tuesday, Mar 10, 2020 at 15:17

Tuesday, Mar 10, 2020 at 15:17
If Coronavirus became more widespread back home, the first thing I'd do is hook up the caravan and go remote and sit it out. Maybe they are concerned about people doing the same.
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Reply By: Batt's - Tuesday, Mar 10, 2020 at 16:11

Tuesday, Mar 10, 2020 at 16:11
Sounds like a very smart decision by the station owners as our authorities are extremely slack in the way they are attempting to contain the spread It's like they want it to happen. We still have so many people coming in and out of the country and people should be quarantined before they leave infected countries so they don't carry it instead we let them land on our shores and ask if they self quarantine or they just wander around and spread it with no regards to their fellow man what a joke. You can't in any way blame or be disrespectful of isolated communities or areas in Aus if they make a decision to not want tourist visiting. This is the time people need to stop being selfish and think it's the end of the world because their precious holiday plans have been disrupted they are looking after their future, yours so you can still visit when it all clears up. If they get a case out there bought in by a tourist they might just shut the doors forever it's a big country plenty of other places to visit you've been given a months notice which is pretty good better than a week.
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Thursday, Mar 12, 2020 at 15:26

Thursday, Mar 12, 2020 at 15:26
Somehow I think the experts might know more about management of the virus and its economic fallout than you do Batt's. Given the virus is already here, by extension your idea is that we should basically shut down the whole country until everyone is checked.

Here's something which might help set you mind at rest: COVID-19 (Novel coronavirus) and Australian visas
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Thursday, Mar 12, 2020 at 22:18

Thursday, Mar 12, 2020 at 22:18
Australian health advisers say no to Europe-wide travel ban
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Follow Up By: Batt's - Friday, Mar 13, 2020 at 23:56

Friday, Mar 13, 2020 at 23:56
Oh did I make a claim to know more and say we should shut the country down you must have had the wrong glasses on when you were reading. I was talking about precautionary measures before travelling overseas and also one business shutting it's doors, not the whole country either. Not interesed in opening your link my mind is fine and also I don't believe we have discussed what my background is or what qualifications I have for you to be making any claims as to what I do or don't know on any subject let alone the one at hand.
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Follow Up By: Batt's - Tuesday, Mar 17, 2020 at 10:58

Tuesday, Mar 17, 2020 at 10:58
How's things going in the country now everything still open looks like more people are taking precautioary measres who would have thought it was a good idea act before your experts told them to do so. Also some schools closing against these experts advice it seems that some educated people are making decisions based on looking after people health and well being of others and not taking risk. We have a long way to go and winter is on it's way.
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Reply By: Member - rocco2010 - Tuesday, Mar 10, 2020 at 17:37

Tuesday, Mar 10, 2020 at 17:37
I guess its everybody's decision on how they run their business but it seems odd to me.

I reckon there might be more than a few more risky places than an outback station stay.

Like my local Woolworths where there were people waiting at the empty toilet paper aisle this morning for the 11.30 delivery.

Or the footy next weekend.

Ninghan is not exactly the end of the earth either.

I am planning a road trip to the Eastern states in a few weeks. Hope this doesn't become a trend.

Cheers
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Reply By: Gazza70 - Tuesday, Mar 10, 2020 at 21:30

Tuesday, Mar 10, 2020 at 21:30
At the rate Superannuation is dropping at present because of the coronavirus hardly anyone will be able to afford to travel / holiday even if fuel is $1 a litre.
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Thursday, Mar 12, 2020 at 15:38

Thursday, Mar 12, 2020 at 15:38
Stockmarket was overdue for a correction Gazza but it's got to panic stations in some cases. Putin playing around in the oil markets has only exacerbated the issue. Not sure what his plan is there (other than disrupting other economies) because oil and gas is about 40% of the Russian Fed's income.
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Follow Up By: Member - David M (SA) - Thursday, Mar 12, 2020 at 16:04

Thursday, Mar 12, 2020 at 16:04
Think you might find he's after the good ol USofA and their shale oil Bazooka.
Dave.
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Reply By: Gordon B5 - Tuesday, Mar 10, 2020 at 22:01

Tuesday, Mar 10, 2020 at 22:01
Wow what a difference of attitude between Ninghan station and the APY lands. Why the difference ?
Just saying.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bigfish - Wednesday, Mar 11, 2020 at 09:44

Wednesday, Mar 11, 2020 at 09:44
Possibly because the station is a privately run operation with minimal staff, no govt supplied doctors, teachers, nurses, maintenance crews, electricity, water, stores, buildings etc.etc. They also welcome visitors all the time. Are not run by a council that is under investigation for the mismanagement of funds, have a history of child and sexual abuse and dont rely on govt handouts.Relying on tax payers dollars to prop up a business. .I am also sure that this station is not overcrowded with its occupants having poor hygiene habits, frail occupants and all willing to self isolate without coming and froing to various communities/towns..I,m probably wrong though!!!!
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Follow Up By: Kazza055 - Wednesday, Mar 11, 2020 at 11:29

Wednesday, Mar 11, 2020 at 11:29
Surely if it is their property, they can do what they want with it and if that comes down to locking the place up to help keep the virus away, that is their prerogative.
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Follow Up By: Kenell - Wednesday, Mar 11, 2020 at 14:53

Wednesday, Mar 11, 2020 at 14:53
Precisely what I was thinking GordonB5.

After reading Bigfish's glowing travelogue though I can see why so many people feel upset when they can't go there !!
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Follow Up By: Member - Bigfish - Wednesday, Mar 11, 2020 at 15:48

Wednesday, Mar 11, 2020 at 15:48
My travelogue Kennel was from actually working in many of the communities in the APY areas. As well as dozens in the top end of Oz. The issues I listed are very common in a hell of a lot of Australian Aboriginal communities. I dont think people feel upset because they cant visit there...all they want is to use the public funded roads to travel through on to their destinations. . I can tell you numerous horror stories from some of these communities but I,ll leave the story telling to others.
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Follow Up By: Kenell - Wednesday, Mar 11, 2020 at 16:26

Wednesday, Mar 11, 2020 at 16:26
Bigfish, I too have visited many if not most of the communities around Oz and I have seen first hand all of the concerns you mention and then some I suspect. Access to communities all over this country is variable at best and can change at the drop of a hat. That is indeed frustrating but I think it is a separate issue to the current circumstances. This disease is new territory. I still maintain it is the prerogative of the owners, managers, controllers of any community, rural station, shopping centre or football stadium for that matter to take whatever measures they deem fit to protect their charges, visitors or staff. Thus the parallel between this thread and the APY Lands thread. I apologise if I caused offence with my tongue in cheek reference to your posting.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bigfish - Wednesday, Mar 11, 2020 at 16:43

Wednesday, Mar 11, 2020 at 16:43
No offence taken mate.. Its a forum and I expect lively debate. It often provides us with information we are unaware of and regardless of the topic...more often than not there are three sides to every story. No different to sitting in a pub and having a discussion with various opinions..Cheers.
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Reply By: eaglefree - Tuesday, Mar 10, 2020 at 22:27

Tuesday, Mar 10, 2020 at 22:27
Remoteness of any location means nothing if a tourist carries the virus to that location.
And it isn’t the flu.
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Thursday, Mar 12, 2020 at 15:46

Thursday, Mar 12, 2020 at 15:46
Short but sweet.
Early days, but.....

Flu Vs COVID-19
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Reply By: Member - rocco2010 - Thursday, Mar 12, 2020 at 16:11

Thursday, Mar 12, 2020 at 16:11
As things stand today, I can go to the shop (which I did and there still no toilet paper in my local Woolies and kitchen towels are rationed) . Then the bank. Then maybe catch a movie.

After I could see my mates at the pub for a few beers and then head to the airport for a redeye to Melbourne.

After a long lunch with some more mates I could be off to the races at Moonee Valley (Hope they on).

Saturday and Sunday at the grand prix before a few more pubs on Sunday night.

If I'm still alive after all that socialising on Monday I can fly back to Perth.

Then I might need some RandR out in the bush to get over all that so I could maybe chuck the swag in the car (there's always spare toilet paper packed) and head off.

But not to Ninghan Station .

I guess it's sometimes a fine line being careless and cautious but I am wary these says of overreacting to anything, including share market crashes.

Cheers

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Reply By: terryt - Friday, Mar 13, 2020 at 20:29

Friday, Mar 13, 2020 at 20:29
Their place their rules.
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Reply By: Member - Cuppa - Thursday, Apr 09, 2020 at 08:11

Thursday, Apr 09, 2020 at 08:11
How naive do most of the posts in this thread appear just 4 weeks later!
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Follow Up By: Rob J8 - Thursday, Apr 09, 2020 at 19:43

Thursday, Apr 09, 2020 at 19:43
How right you are Cuppa.
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Follow Up By: Candace S. - Friday, Apr 10, 2020 at 07:30

Friday, Apr 10, 2020 at 07:30
In "Covid-19 Time", even four days can be a long time!
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